That's the 2nd great ILM poll I've read this week.
I don't get the appeal of wanting to hear BLT in a "real" acoustic version.― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
Not even the aging Bernard's own acoustic rendition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxp5ogeJ54Q
― Campari G&T, Saturday, 20 July 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
I just listened to lonesome tonight for the first time. it was awesome.― anonanon, Friday, 31 May 2013 20:11 (1 month ago)
It is indeed, and yet I've always wished it were more like the London Polytechnic bootleg recording from 1985. By this I don't mean the official release should have Bernard's reference to the fact of ot being a benefit concert for the striking miners: "if you don't all move back a bit, next week we'll be doing a suffocation benefit", or to his spontaneously changing the lyrics: "When you reached out in your sleep; And you knew I wasn't there" to "When you reached out in your sleep; And felt my big fat cock"
No, the reason this could & should have been so much greater, and fully deserving of A-side status, comes toward the exhilarating pure beauty of the extended coda (beginning at 3mins:28secs); a perfect blend of syths and guitars, that overwhelms with delight, and worthy of being placed, for this glorious culmination alone, the same exalted company as Some Distant Memory, or Every Little Counts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuvOhuozFu8
― Campari G&T, Sunday, 21 July 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
While perusing this endlessly fascinating poll again, I am in despair that I did not download the beautiful Recycle Project while I had the chance. It is nowhere to be found on the internet.
― A bee in her hair. (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Sunday, 21 July 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, they had to sack it for very obvious reasons..
― Mark G, Sunday, 21 July 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
for reference as i had a hard time finding this thread: Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got Poll eyes: NEW ORDER Artist poll #37 (voting ends May 26 Midnight Pacific)
― Bee OK, Saturday, 19 October 2013 06:53 (ten years ago) link
i have been doing some research to get the Steely Dan voting thread up and running. had to look back at this one and noticed that results have fallen off.
19 ballotsfull results for 16 videos:
350 The Perfect Kiss 17-11212 Touched By the Hand Of God 13-2203 True Faith 12-2177 Confusion 10-186 Round & Round 5-182 World (The Price Of Love) 5-181 Regret 5 (2 Baywatch version)68 Blue Monday 4-1 (2 '88 version)60 Bizarre Love Triangle 456 Ruined In A Day 445 Crystal 341 World In Motion 316 Blue Monday 1 ('83 version)16 Here To Stay 114 Fine Time 114 Shellshock 1
30 BallotsFull results for 11 Albums:
793 Technique 29-15728 Power, Corruption & Lies 29-5633 Low-Life 28-1544 Movement 24-4496 Brotherhood 24310 Republic 18-1268 Substance 10-4257 Get Ready 15240 Waiting For The Sirens’ Call 1483 Lost Sirens 619 BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert 1
44 BallotsFull results for 116 songs:
1458 Temptation 40-9 1332 Ceremony 38-51211 True Faith 381168 The Perfect Kiss 38-41149 Regret 36-41134 Bizarre Love Triangle 371093 Age Of Consent 35965 Your Silent Face 35-1946 Blue Monday 33-1 852 Dream Attack 28-5
804 Vanishing Point 33-2790 Procession 28-3787 Everything’s Gone Green 31780 1963 (30 776 Love Vigilantes 34-1775 Thieves Like Us 28 772 Dreams Never End 32739 All the Way 31714 Round & Round 29656 Leave Me Alone 27
648 Fine Time 27603 Confusion 28573 Run 26 511 Sub-culture 23495 Lonesome Tonight 25492 The Village 26488 Chosen Time 18-2472 Shellshock 22469 All Day Long 23-1465 Hurt 14
440 5 8 6 (22 417 Mr. Disco 20414 Crystal 24413 In a Lonely Place 21402 Cries And Whispers 18393 Face Up 20392 Elegia 23370 Touched by the Hand Of God 19340 Love Less 20323 World (The Price of Love) 17
309 Guilty Partner 17303 Sunrise 19297 Doubts Even Here 14282 ICB 15265 Here To Stay 15261 Ruined in a Day 12260 Weirdo 15249 Waiting For the Siren’s Call 15241 Ultraviolence 14228 Mesh 13
224 Turn the Heater On 9210 Senses 12203 Paradise 11 201 Denial 11195 The Him 8-1190 Sooner Than You Think 11190 This Time of Night 9185 Truth 8181 Every Little Counts 12175 Krafty 15
171 Murder 10170 World In Motion 12-1152 Ecstasy 10128 State of the Nation 10 125 Way Of Life 9122 60 Miles an Hour 7-1107 Let's Go 5103 Broken Promise 8105 Everyone Everywhere 5
94 Someone Like You 694 Spooky 493 As It Is When It Was 893 Turn 791 We All Stand 885 Primitive Notion 680 Run 2 (4)79 Turn My Way 667 Morning Night and Day 460 Angel Dust 758 Too Late 355 Vicious Streak 455 Video 5 8 6 (2)47 Special 445 Hey Now What You Doing 345 Young Offender 342 Californian Grass 242 Close Range 237 Who’s Joe? 436 Dracula’s Castle 233 Don’t Do It 232 The Beach 332 I’ll Stay With You 230 Guilt Is A Useless Emotion 329 Avalanche 329 The Kiss Of Death 128 Run Wild 525 Liar 225Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) 124 Theme from Best & Marsh 223 Jetstream 321 Such a Good Thing 121 Regret (Sabres Slow 'n' Low mix) 121 1963 (Arthur Baker remix) 120 Brutal 319 Sugarcane 117 Times Change 114 BLT 112 Recoil 111 Rock the Shack 311 Evil Dust 110 Slow Jam 29 Bizarre Dub Triangle 18 MTO 38 Working Overtime 15 Shame of the Nation 14 Told You So 2
― Bee OK, Thursday, 13 March 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
Technique:
#9 Dream Attack10 Vanishing Point18 All The Way19 Round & Round21 Fine Time23 Run32 Mr Disco39 Love Less41 Guilty Partner
― Bee OK, Thursday, 13 March 2014 06:25 (ten years ago) link
i was in the mood to listen to New Order this Thanksgiving Eve, so instead of playing one of their CD's i'm going to play ILM's Top list.
― 2010, 2012 and 2014 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Thursday, 27 November 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link
happy Two year anniversary poll (when i was a virgin), will need to listen to some New Order today:
http://blog.cashcrate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2-year-Anniversary.jpg
― Bee OK, Friday, 29 May 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
I played Republic last night. Really want to know what happened to Peter Hook on that album. There are a few tracks where his bass shows up but it's definitely missing in action. Incidentally, I really like Republic so I'm not too bothered by Hooky not appearing on the next album.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 29 May 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
The tracks on which you can hear Hook: Regret, Spooky, Everyone Everywhere, Young Offender.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
Republic is the only album of theirs not to appear on Spotify.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
Here it's those expanded reissues and Substance that are now missing from Spotify. So no "Cries and Whispers" or "Lonesome Tonight" etc, but Republic's here. Surely a cue to check whether the deep cuts can finally make more of an impression...
― Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 29 May 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
Hook is more evident than I recalled in the very "deeps cuts" I had in mind. "Chemical", "Special", etc. Rarely at the front of the mix though, of course.
― Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 29 May 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link
"Special," yes, can't believe I missed it -- he's all over the intro. I just remembered a solo in "Times Change" too.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link
think it was just down to tensions between Hook and Sumner being at their worst - I think I read an interview where Hook said Sumner had decided to use his bass line's melody for the lead vocal melody on World and they fought over that which eventually lead to the bass track being removed or something
― ufo, Saturday, 30 May 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link
would love to read that interview.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link
I haven't managed to dig up the one I'm thinking of but he talks about how fractured the recording process for Republic was here.
― ufo, Saturday, 30 May 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link
His word against everyone else's, I guess:
RCM: Was Gillian [Gilbert, New Order keyboardist] involved at that point?
PH: No, I’m afraid to say that Gillian doesn’t have a lot to do with the music. Gillian used to help, but she was never a huge part of the writing. The writing was always done by the 3 of us. Bernard did most of the keyboards.- See more at: http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/2013/03/04/peter-hook-interview-joy-division-new-order/#sthash.6w0Wqoc8.dpuf
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link
I don't buy his comments about collaborating on Sumner with lyrics, especially remembering how his words for that Electronic album are very much of a piece w/what he was writing for NO.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2015 02:30 (eight years ago) link
when i said i was a virgin that meant that this was the first poll that i ran. the other thing was gone a long time ago, just to be clear.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 30 May 2015 03:06 (eight years ago) link
lol, can i erase that last post please. got high tonight...
― Bee OK, Saturday, 30 May 2015 06:27 (eight years ago) link
rockcellarmagazine.com needs to add "munted" and "gurning" to its spellchecker
― ( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Saturday, 30 May 2015 07:37 (eight years ago) link
I did wonder, BeeOK
― Mark G, Saturday, 30 May 2015 09:58 (eight years ago) link
Noticed last night that Times Change sounds like a follow up to Get The Message w/ the opening talk/rap section.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 30 May 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
and the "Some Distant Memory" oboe!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I was thinking last night about how good it would be to resurrect that one for their live shows but use the melodica to play the oboe part.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
Think i started a thread on a Time Change somewhere. Always loved that dusky vibe. That one and Some Distant Memory really take me back to my senior year in high school.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
A friend of mine took a synth programming course in college, and fwiw, he told me that apparently the oboe is one of the easiest sounds to come up with.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 May 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
It's a live oboe, according to the credits.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
i was a poll virgin when i ran this poll. yes, this was my very first poll i did for ILM. this was also the first ILM artist collaborated poll where i asked for help with the images. i still think Millsner, who i don't even think post here anymore, did one of the best job on any ILM poll. cannot ever thank him enough for helping.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 17 August 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link
anyways the reason for this bump. we never made a Spotify playlist so here it is for the first time:
ILM New Order
― Bee OK, Thursday, 17 August 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link
missing from Spotify because they don't have CD2 from the collector edition are:
Lonesome TonightHurtIn A Lonely PlaceCries and WhispersMesh
so it is actually a Top 45 instead of 50.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 17 August 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link
I still check in almost every day! Thanks for the bump and the playlist.
The poll was a joy from start to finish, and I felt privileged to help out. It's obvious that New Order are a special band for many ILXors, so I hope that our love for these songs, the legacy of the group, and their constellation of collaborators still shows through.
― Millsner, Thursday, 17 August 2017 04:49 (six years ago) link
nice to see you are still around Millsner!
had a blast listening to this playlist today.
― Bee OK, Friday, 18 August 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link
anyways the reason for this bump. we never made a Spotify playlist
er https://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/62YSDYuNcMWbrUBYTl8kh6
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 18 August 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link
One of these playlists has the stupid pump panel mix of Confusion on there which renders a 'best of new order' playlist completely useless. I added both but don't know which one I shuffled this morning, but it was foul. I can deal with the Perfecto mix of World and the Hardfloor mix of Blue Monday, but the Confusion remix was a step too far. Surely nobody voted for that.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 18 August 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
Well what do you know. I didn't have Spotify back in the day and when I scanned this thread I didn't see it.
Xpost
― Bee OK, Friday, 18 August 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
Funny this was revived. I recorded this podcast on Substance, 30 years old yesterday:
https://www.acast.com/popshoppodcast/comingaroundagain-neworderssubstance?autoplay
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link
are people familiar with the Pump Panel Reconstruction Mix used in the first club scene in "Blade"? because that owns(also for whatever reason the "Confusion" 12 " mix on Spotify won't play for me)― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Friday, May 31, 2013 4:00 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
(also for whatever reason the "Confusion" 12 " mix on Spotify won't play for me)
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Friday, May 31, 2013 4:00 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link
The worst New Order single.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 January 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link
Maybe the worst up to that point, as you say, but looking at the 2CD "Singles" comp, I can find at least nine I like less.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 5 January 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
I'd say Jetstream is quite comfortably their worst single overall.
― kitchen person, Friday, 5 January 2018 04:38 (six years ago) link
I believe they wrote State of the Nation in a day (or unusually quick) for Pretty In Pink. I don't mind it, but I couldn't defend it outside of personal preference. It's not better than Shellshock, but I really like the intro until Bernard vomits up that horrible lyric. The backing vocal on the chorus is pointless. Despite all the bad, I still like it. State of the Nation is my least favorite 1986 sleeve. Shellshock is my favorite, then BLT.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 January 2018 04:54 (six years ago) link
"shellshock" was the pretty in pink track.
― new noise, Friday, 5 January 2018 05:36 (six years ago) link
Yeah, you're right, I thought I had read something in Substance about State being done around the same time but I just flipped through the mentions in Substance and there's nothing there.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 January 2018 05:52 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m00EKCQB4NU
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 January 2018 05:56 (six years ago) link
Hooky's bassline in this early live version of State of The Nation from 1985 is pretty good. I think it's one of his weakest basslines, which could be what drags the song down.
The whole Leuven show is enjoyable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLZ53BmgD5A&t=1474s
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 January 2018 06:06 (six years ago) link
Our soaraway number 2 right here in new unseen footage from Manchester’s Student Union on February 6 1981. Messy but as a comment cheeringly points out 'New Order's sloppy mess sounds better than most bands' A game'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAmyMqL1AkI
― piscesx, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:50 (five years ago) link