Superhero Filmmakers: Where's Our Watchmen?

I ask because a fair chunk of the pleasure (for big fat dweebs) in the original is in the twisting around of then-popular comics tropes. Some of that will probably shoot past you, but it shouldn't hurt your appreciation too badly. Knowing who batman is will be useful, though.

doesnt it have some Nixon as President for Life thing?

the last graphic novel I read was Fun Home.

its a comic book about comic books.

Nixon doesn't do much, but he is played for a couple minor laughs

Fun Home is a lot better than Watchmen.

also good to know in approaching watchmen that it was then popular (and sort of "shocking") to present batman as a borderline-psycho reactionary thug fighing his way through a human dungheap. still is, i guess. thank frank miller.

points to Morbz if he can spot the gay characters

well, batman and other superheros (the punisher, for ex), as watchmen & miller's dark knight came out around the same time

like there are str8 superheroes!

xp

I reserved Watchmen at the library!

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:20 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

good to see you find something else to do besides showering in the bathroom sink and changing your plastic bag shoes

its a comic book about comic books.

― Comic Book Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:33 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This isn't entirely accurate. It's also a comic about individually wrapped sugar cubes.

it is a comic about the glum zinger in the penultimate panel on every other page.

It's a comic about lesbians buying porn.

it's about an alternate reality in which people really do smoke tobacco out of crack pipes.

its about things that are owl-shaped

It's about the button holding down your right epaulet coming undone.

It's about a giant fake space vagina.

blue cock

, seven long feet of

lol basically that filming technique is the entire point of "300"

which is why that movie is a borderline-unwatchable piece of shit.

yr welcome. the difference between me and Morbius is that I am occasionally right about things

― Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

morbius's cranky opinions are at least entertaining sometimes

speaking of disagreeableness, here's this shit sandwich.

One wishes that writer, Moore, could have used his considerable talents to produce uplift as opposed to depression, to reach for the sublime instead of the prosaic, to inspire by taking the high road instead of the low. But, unfortunately, with the influence of the political view from the left upon him all he could do was take the low road. If all one can do is see the worst in man, claim nothing is ever worth the effort, and that western ideas have destroyed any vestige of light in man then you are doomed to stay on that low road. So, we end up with despair and darkness in our art, too many artists having taken the low road.

http://www.thenewfrontiersman.net/

good segue!

i have to admit i'm impressed at the way they've constructed the world of watchmen

It's likely to be the best achievement of this endeavor.

Careful, you'll get tagged as Shakey Morbius III.

best part of the shit sandwich (of the part i managed to read):

Why do contemporary artists all seem to think the end of the world is nigh? Why has art become a thing of ugliness, instead of light? With all the beautiful things we see every day, the delicacy of a flower, the turn of a woman's arm, the grace of a bird in flight, we are treated only to the bizarre and horrid by our artists. These days we see sculptures that look like molecular mistakes writ large. We live in architecture with the image of a jumble of blocks thrown to the ground in the midst of a temper tantrum by a gigantic, petulant child. We view paintings that appear more accidental than planned. We have movies full of violence and anti-social behavior. On the radio we hear music that celebrates all the worst in man. We even have comic books that belittle heroism, that deconstruct the good and exceptional turning their heroes as cartoonishly flawed as the most obscene head case on the Jerry Springer Show.

When did entertainment turn so dark?

i dunno, five or six hundred years ago?

who is the idiot that cast veidt? this guy is so not right at all

seriously. they needed a young robert redford type, and they cast a pasty english dude affecting a german accent.

wilson as dreiberg/nite owl is good casting tho

agreed on the veidt casting. maybe he'll pull it off over the long haul...

OTOH, casting overall seems pretty okay. kelly leak as rorschach!

Careful, you'll get tagged as Shakey Morbius III.

"... given the necessary compromises"

seriously. they needed a young robert redford type, and they cast a pasty english dude affecting a german accent.

He doesn't bother me that much. Moore & Gibbons had always indicated in the annotations/notes that Veidt was more or less a "Sting" type.

haha, what a shocka that is

One wishes that writer, Moore, could have used his considerable talents to produce uplift as opposed to depression, to reach for the sublime instead of the prosaic, to inspire by taking the high road instead of the low.

I've always sorta seen V and Watchmen as companion pieces: V is all about "taking the high road", the possibility of change in society, whereas Watchmen is the cynical work, "the more things change the more they stay the same". It's notable though that both series have an open ending, we don't know what happens after the cataclysmic events in their finales, so V is not totally idealist and Watchmen is not totally pessimist.

Graphically, it isn't very well drafted. It does have the benefit of being created in the semi-realist style that began to be popular in the 1980s though. which instantly makes it better than today's comics drawn in that horrible Japanese Anime/Manga style that has so pervaded the comic book industry of late. Thankfully, Watchmen's was not yet an era infected by this regrettable, current trend in US comic art.

OK, this person has never actually looked at Watchmen or any other comic book.

There's a link to a sodding 22 page long book-by-book critique by the same guy at the bottom of that article.

He had me at "why can't art just be PRETTY?"

"the turn of a woman's arm"

I like how he hated Watchmen enough to write a thesis-length essay on what's bad about it.

"the turn of a woman's arm"

fyi lame-o watchmen the movie has a cuet girl in it

Veidt is not an effeminite euro-pansy. He's supposed to be a liberal/humanist ideal - in perfect shape, a macho sex symbol, an enlightened lefty, etc.

AKA STING

I think you guys are confusing Veidt with John Constantine.

He doesn't bother me that much. Moore & Gibbons had always indicated in the annotations/notes that Veidt was more or less a "Sting" type.

― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sting is the gift that keeps on giving.

I still think I am the only one in the world who will like this movie (and admit to it).