really Shakey, love all things and people, like Dan and Francis of Assissi.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
haha Morbz why are you readin this thread (you know I luve ya!)
― Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
luve? lurv? luv
"I know" - Han Solo
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I reserved Watchmen at the library!
Much background on actual superhero comics?
― Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, DO YOU HAVE much backetc.
I read Batmang as 11-year-old
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Comic Book Morbius predicts you will not like it
― Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I ask because a fair chunk of the pleasure (for big fat dweebs) in the original is in the twisting around of then-popular comics tropes. Some of that will probably shoot past you, but it shouldn't hurt your appreciation too badly. Knowing who batman is will be useful, though.
― Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
doesnt it have some Nixon as President for Life thing?
the last graphic novel I read was Fun Home.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link
its a comic book about comic books.
― Comic Book Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Nixon doesn't do much, but he is played for a couple minor laughs
Fun Home is a lot better than Watchmen.
― Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
also good to know in approaching watchmen that it was then popular (and sort of "shocking") to present batman as a borderline-psycho reactionary thug fighing his way through a human dungheap. still is, i guess. thank frank miller.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
points to Morbz if he can spot the gay characters
― Comic Book Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
well, batman and other superheros (the punisher, for ex), as watchmen & miller's dark knight came out around the same time
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
like there are str8 superheroes!
xp
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
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good to see you find something else to do besides showering in the bathroom sink and changing your plastic bag shoes
― harry s tfuman (and what), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
― Comic Book Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:33 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This isn't entirely accurate. It's also a comic about individually wrapped sugar cubes.
― Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
it is a comic about the glum zinger in the penultimate panel on every other page.
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
It's a comic about lesbians buying porn.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
it's about an alternate reality in which people really do smoke tobacco out of crack pipes.
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
its about things that are owl-shaped
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
It's about the button holding down your right epaulet coming undone.
― Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
It's about a giant fake space vagina.
― chap, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link
blue cock
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
, seven long feet of
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
lol basically that filming technique is the entire point of "300"
which is why that movie is a borderline-unwatchable piece of shit.
― Father Time has always been our most reliable film critic (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
yr welcome. the difference between me and Morbius is that I am occasionally right about things
― Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
morbius's cranky opinions are at least entertaining sometimes
― Father Time has always been our most reliable film critic (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link
speaking of disagreeableness, here's this shit sandwich.
― kingfish, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link
One wishes that writer, Moore, could have used his considerable talents to produce uplift as opposed to depression, to reach for the sublime instead of the prosaic, to inspire by taking the high road instead of the low. But, unfortunately, with the influence of the political view from the left upon him all he could do was take the low road. If all one can do is see the worst in man, claim nothing is ever worth the effort, and that western ideas have destroyed any vestige of light in man then you are doomed to stay on that low road. So, we end up with despair and darkness in our art, too many artists having taken the low road.
― Father Time has always been our most reliable film critic (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.thenewfrontiersman.net/
― kingfish, Thursday, 19 February 2009 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link
good segue!
― Father Time has always been our most reliable film critic (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i have to admit i'm impressed at the way they've constructed the world of watchmen
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 February 2009 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link
It's likely to be the best achievement of this endeavor.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 19 February 2009 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Careful, you'll get tagged as Shakey Morbius III.
― WmC, Thursday, 19 February 2009 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link
best part of the shit sandwich (of the part i managed to read):
Why do contemporary artists all seem to think the end of the world is nigh? Why has art become a thing of ugliness, instead of light? With all the beautiful things we see every day, the delicacy of a flower, the turn of a woman's arm, the grace of a bird in flight, we are treated only to the bizarre and horrid by our artists. These days we see sculptures that look like molecular mistakes writ large. We live in architecture with the image of a jumble of blocks thrown to the ground in the midst of a temper tantrum by a gigantic, petulant child. We view paintings that appear more accidental than planned. We have movies full of violence and anti-social behavior. On the radio we hear music that celebrates all the worst in man. We even have comic books that belittle heroism, that deconstruct the good and exceptional turning their heroes as cartoonishly flawed as the most obscene head case on the Jerry Springer Show.When did entertainment turn so dark?
When did entertainment turn so dark?
i dunno, five or six hundred years ago?
― contenderizer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 05:26 (fifteen years ago) link
who is the idiot that cast veidt? this guy is so not right at all
― homosexual II, Thursday, 19 February 2009 05:26 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously. they needed a young robert redford type, and they cast a pasty english dude affecting a german accent.
― Father Time has always been our most reliable film critic (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link
wilson as dreiberg/nite owl is good casting tho
― Father Time has always been our most reliable film critic (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 February 2009 05:30 (fifteen years ago) link
agreed on the veidt casting. maybe he'll pull it off over the long haul...
― contenderizer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 05:30 (fifteen years ago) link
OTOH, casting overall seems pretty okay. kelly leak as rorschach!
― contenderizer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:18 (fifteen years ago) link
"... given the necessary compromises"
― contenderizer, Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:22 (fifteen years ago) link
He doesn't bother me that much. Moore & Gibbons had always indicated in the annotations/notes that Veidt was more or less a "Sting" type.
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:31 (fifteen years ago) link
haha, what a shocka that is
― kingfish, Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link
One wishes that writer, Moore, could have used his considerable talents to produce uplift as opposed to depression, to reach for the sublime instead of the prosaic, to inspire by taking the high road instead of the low.
I've always sorta seen V and Watchmen as companion pieces: V is all about "taking the high road", the possibility of change in society, whereas Watchmen is the cynical work, "the more things change the more they stay the same". It's notable though that both series have an open ending, we don't know what happens after the cataclysmic events in their finales, so V is not totally idealist and Watchmen is not totally pessimist.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 19 February 2009 07:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Graphically, it isn't very well drafted. It does have the benefit of being created in the semi-realist style that began to be popular in the 1980s though. which instantly makes it better than today's comics drawn in that horrible Japanese Anime/Manga style that has so pervaded the comic book industry of late. Thankfully, Watchmen's was not yet an era infected by this regrettable, current trend in US comic art.
OK, this person has never actually looked at Watchmen or any other comic book.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a link to a sodding 22 page long book-by-book critique by the same guy at the bottom of that article.
― chap, Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link