no it isn't
just watched that clip, omg
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
no it isn't why?
― the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
I think k3vin's implication is that it isn't a grey area, it's just pretty obviously wrong
― mh, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
to have people dead-set against such a brilliant, basic and crucial human achievement such as vaccination is stunningly sad, still. it's plainly evil.
― goole, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
sorry should have said it's not in the US, things might be different in the UK
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 July 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
I think we need an era of actual hard-line censorship so that people will stop equating "not giving a forum to dumbshits" w/censorship
― tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Any outlet to chemophobia has a tendency to reinforce such beliefs in those who hold or are susceptible to them. I mean, fuck, just look at the bollocks that shows up your Facebook feed if you're not quick enough to hide those posts.
― Ze Meadow Morals Squad (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
How this ISNT a hate crime is beyond me.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/08/20/letter_attacking_autistic_boy_not_a_hate_crime_police_say.html
http://htmlimg4.scribdassets.com/11pquappkw2qq4ts/images/1-2631b19334.jpg
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
Wait, the kid whales?!
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
that's your problem with that letter?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
well past a certain point you just can't make yourself care about that many excess exclamation points
― j., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link
i know burning that woman's house down would be the wrong response but still
― beans on toast and ghosts (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:28 (ten years ago) link
Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.Personally, they should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate them to science. He scares the hell out of my NORMAL kids.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:33 (ten years ago) link
Heard the voice of NORMALITY many times but not received the rabid poison pen letter yet. On a positive note, most of this kid's neighbours threw an outdoor party for him to show their support or at least that was the story from a Canadian cable news station my wife showed me the other day.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 08:07 (ten years ago) link
The really stupid thing is that the kid doesn't even live there. He visits his grandma occasionally.
And what is this utopian neighborhood where everyone is 'normal'.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 09:44 (ten years ago) link
I once got accosted by a very angry lady at a swimming pool, who for some reason didn't like my son's very loud and excitable way of getting his sensory kicks with water. "You should teach him not to behave like that". In exchanges like this there is always an undercurrent of "this behaviour isn't fair on the normal kids" like "normality" is sacrosanct and justifies any disability-hate that "normal" people wish to express.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:37 (ten years ago) link
it comes across as barely-repressed fear to me, most of the time
― Dacca to Environ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:40 (ten years ago) link
not that fear is a more noble excuse than pig ignorance. some people really are incapable of behaving decently in public.
― Dacca to Environ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
C'mon...
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
I think some people are just incredibly hateful. I've known people who constantly criticize everyone from family members to strangers on the street. Xpost
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
i know. sadly i'm related to some people person like that.
― Dacca to Environ (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
innoculate things that make me irrationally angry:http://www.salon.com/2013/08/14/whats_with_rich_people_hating_vaccines/
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
parents in tony places
waht
― click here to start exploding (ledge), Thursday, 22 August 2013 09:28 (ten years ago) link
You can't enroll your kid in a school or daycare here unless their vaccinations are up to date. These are public schools though, maybe private schools don't care? It will be interesting to see what the 1% looks like in 20 years what with 80% of them actively trying to kill off the newest super rich generation.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
Oh wait I forgot Jenny McCarthy cured her son's autism. I guess they'll make it to trust fund age after all.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
nah, she admitted he never had autism, so she basically cured his non-autism
― mh, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
she admitted it? I gotta find that
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Saturday, 24 August 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link
http://hollywoodlife.com/2010/02/26/jenny-mccarthy-says-her-son-evan-never-had-autism/
― mh, Saturday, 24 August 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link
LOL comments:This is all about the *total* environmental toxic our children face today. Exposures to aluminum, mercury, fetal and other foreign protein, foreign DNA including fetal, money, chicken, and other DNA
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Saturday, 24 August 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link
money, chicken and other DNA
My child is still mostly fetal chicken DNA pollution is no myth
― mh, Saturday, 24 August 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link
OK I can't resist
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Saturday, 24 August 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/children-texas-megachurch-measles-vaccination-082613
― kate78, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/17/the_most_depressing_discovery_about_the_brain_ever_partner/
Why arguments about vaccines, gun safety, and empirical evidence why your favorite band blows goats will never change anyone's mind:
'...Denial is business-as-usual for our brains. More and better facts don’t turn low-information voters into well-equipped citizens. It just makes them more committed to their misperceptions. In the entire history of the universe, no Fox News viewers ever changed their minds because some new data upended their thinking. When there’s a conflict between partisan beliefs and plain evidence, it’s the beliefs that win. The power of emotion over reason isn’t a bug in our human operating systems, it’s a feature.'
― Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Thursday, 19 September 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
ARRGGHHHHHH!
[Facebook link shared by friend]Vaccinations Are Not Immunizationsworldtruth.tvThere is only one kind of immunity and that is natural immunity which is achieved by battling the infectious diseases itself. Vaccination is merely the artificial triggering of temporary responses to manmade pathogens. Vaccines are both harmful and dangerous and are leading to generations of humans…Like · · Share · 14 hours ago ·
D_____________ But vaccines cause immunity. Sure, some just boost your immunity,therefore decreasing your chance of having symptoms, but nonetheless they are preventing diseases all over the world and you can't deny that. We have to think about the greater good, not just ourselves when we have these debates, whether they are "good" for us or a "risk" for us or not. Don't you think?7 hours ago · Like
N__________ The article explains the difference between vaccines and immunity, hence it's title. It also presents information about how vaccines' efficacy rates are skewed. I think there is a lot of misinformation out there. And people should be informed about both sides of the issue rather than passively taking all of the information handed down from the mainstream media and the dogma of the medical establishment.
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
ridiculous
― No more kisses (sunny successor), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I can't wait for a return to widespread outbreaks of polio, whooping cough, measles, rubella and all those other fun diseases.
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
I really shouldn't wish polio on anyone, but these people are pushing my limits
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
xpost It's happening!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
I dont understand how people get around vaccinations. My experience is that pediatricians insist on it and schools (daycare and elementary) wont enroll your kid without an up to date vacc. sheet
― No more kisses (sunny successor), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
religious exemptions, mostly
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
We just a note from one of my daughter's teachers that they can't find proof of her polio vaccine. We have a week to get it to them, then they kick her out of school!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
then they kick her out of school?!
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
Well, we obviously got the vaccine, years ago. But they have to give us fair warning to produce the proof!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah weve gotten similar notes when weve forgotten to include the vacc sheet. You got one week or your kid is out.
― No more kisses (sunny successor), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:35 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ahhh. which of the wonderful religions doesnt believe in health? im guessing scientology for one.
― No more kisses (sunny successor), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
They don't believe in mental health, at least.
Aren't Seventh Day Adventists the ones that don't go to doctors/hospitals?
― nickn, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
Christian Scientists, afaik. I can't remember all the quirks of 7DAs—was friends with a kid in a 7DA family in my neighborhood in the 80s—but they take that Saturday = Sabbath thing SERIOUSLY.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
7th Day Adventists run their own hospitals sometimes, so no.
― kate78, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
They are prone to vegetarianism, though.