that jute gyte sounds sweet. microtonal. passionate. for BM, "groovy". no mimetic glass/ reich /lutoslawski / ligeti, or ersatz gravitas through "classical" instrumentation. rhythm. that a million times over TNP's half arsed george fentonisms
― massaman gai, Friday, 12 July 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
well at least something came outta this then
― imago, Friday, 12 July 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
i liked hidden!just don't get this "progression" to tired old shit
― massaman gai, Friday, 12 July 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
hmm. certainly I don't like FOR to the same extent all the way through but I think the highlights are beautifully written
― imago, Friday, 12 July 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
and kinda novel, to my ears at least
i guess beauty is in the eye(ear?) of the beholder n all, but to me it sounds deleteriously derivative, devoid of rhythmic inventiveness, & jeez they shoulda hazed the brass section or got a decent jazz player in. sounds like williams fairey brass band juniors play C20 modernists. "parp". who gave them the budget for this? it sounds embarrassing. don't get sutton's take either. i respect sutton. just rubs me up the wrong way.
― massaman gai, Friday, 12 July 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
The dry-recorded horns and vox seem to my ears to be a conscious choice to make the record sound "not otherworldly". There's a kind of disappointed quality to the production? Which I kind of like-- I mean, I like it especially in contrast to the We Are Really Into Pagan Imagery Both Sonically And Visually m.o. of "Hidden"
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 13 July 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't wait for a US release. I quite like this album, and as a life-long fan of underground rock, it sounds new and interesting to me. But I do give credence to Massaman Gai's perspective, and it sounds like s/he is much more familiar with avante-classical or whatever genre this album fits better with. But in my experience it's always great to find a gateway into different areas of music, even if the initial exposure seems quaint in retrospect.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 July 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
this is the second time this month i liked something and some modern classical know it all told me i shouldn't like it
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
is this even going to get a US release? still not sure why we have to play this game in 2013, but i was hoping to be able to purchase a legit copy.
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
Obviously it would be a better approach to say "glad you like it, now check out such and such for something even better."
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 July 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
I've tried listening to Hidden again and it did nothing for me
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 15 July 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
What was the first time m@tt?
― the next night we ate Wale (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 15 July 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
ye gads you're free to like it! i'm not saying you do or should have the same value system as me. as for suggesting viable alternatives "further reading" / whatever, the thing has been extensively reviewed with reference to similar music. check it out. spoon -fed much?
― massaman gai, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 08:11 (ten years ago) link
ostensibly similar
― massaman gai, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 08:12 (ten years ago) link
Hey everyone, it's the guy from the Guardian end-of-year reader comments section!
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 10:19 (ten years ago) link
oh you hurt my feelings. how mean
― massaman gai, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 10:48 (ten years ago) link
What stuff from the modern rock/classical crossover canon floats yer boat, masseman? We've had Ulcer and Kayo Dot among others mentioned here - not a fan of theirs either?
― imago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link
Ulver, even
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, July 15, 2013 2:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I similarly had someone suck all the life out of Max Richter for me years ago in this way.
― Evan, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
That someone was otmfm
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
more like pees poo pooritans
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
Interviewed Graham Sutton about recording Field of Reeds (and other stuff, but mainly TNP).
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/graham-sutton-interview
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 29 July 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
Awesome interview. You back in the business as well, Scik?
― imago, Monday, 29 July 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
I've written a handful of pieces for The Quietus over the last few years.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 29 July 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I know. I guess quality, not quantity
― imago, Monday, 29 July 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
That is a great interview, indeed, Nick. He comes across as such a nice guy.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 29 July 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
Man, I need to sit down with an engineer for a month and really STUDY
― My Buddy® of sexting (DJP), Monday, 29 July 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
Been listening to this a lot again, it matches this bad weather well. Had it on my headphones when I ran in to work this morning over wet boggy fields. Played it again this evening on a windy run along the seafront where the storm-thrown shingle has covered the paths and buried benches and a swathe of seaweed had started to encroach on city streets. I want to think of it as sort of the estaurine phase of a flow of dank music that goes from the high moors of Richard Skelton, through the wet autumnal hills of Hood and all the way down to the sublittoral kelp beds of Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom.
― tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
estuarine even
― tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Looking forward to seeing them at the Barbican in April 'performing one of the albums of the year, Field of Reeds with an expanded ensemble.'
― millmeister, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link
YEah dug this out again too (bought a "proper" copy on vinyl). It's a great album. Sometimes the indulgences are a bit too great and you get the impression he's attempting something that's too clever and ambitious for his own good, but I guess that's better than not trying at all eh? I know what you mean about estuarine, there's something very Graham Swift 'Waterlands' about this. I'll still love the moments on this though - the piano vamp on Fragment Two; the flugelhorn on Nothing Else; the basso profondo; the whole of Organ Eternal.
― An embarrassing doorman and garbage man (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
the point in "V (Island Song)" when all of the meandering musical lines coalesce into that groove is my favorite transition on the album
― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
oh man i must go to that barbican show.
― An embarrassing doorman and garbage man (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that's kind of really what this album is about - all these strangely twisting threads that don't seem to lead anywhere and then suddenly bundle together in this cool way.
― An embarrassing doorman and garbage man (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Hoping everyone gathers around V (Island Song) in the EOY poll
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
sorry but it wasn't the stand out for me. i might give it another listen on its own and then get voters regret.
― An embarrassing doorman and garbage man (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link
Inspired by the revive, put this beaut on again today. It took me a few minutes to realize that it was over in the other room and that I was actually just listening to a helicopter hovering off somewhere in the distance.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link
OK, let the persuasion campaign commence...V (Island Song) has a (superb) video! My only qualm is that it loses that gorgeous slow transition into the midsection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iSgJggVpNg
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 07:17 (ten years ago) link
uh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iSgJggVpNg
something very king crimson about that lurching chord progression and the purposeful clattering of the cymbals
― tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 08:29 (ten years ago) link
yeh lots of love for this album for the eoy poll but was nowhere near nominating any tracks - probs organ eternal would be my pick if i had to choose one
that said it would be nice to see tnp in any of the countdowns
― nathey, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 09:53 (ten years ago) link
I'm nominating the album so I don't really see the point of voting for any of the individual tracks. It's not really an album with major standouts anyway.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 10:04 (ten years ago) link
Same here. This album has just been creeping up on me all year and will do very well on my list but couldn't really pick out a single song to vote for. Think I'm going to have to go back to the last album now, I listened to it when it came out but it didn't really make any impression on me at all.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
IMO the three times they've broken 7 minutes = by far their 3 best songs. Next album they gotta go fucken symphonic-prog hardball
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Way back in the mists of time they did a song called Navigate, Navigate which was 12 minutes long and felt like it went onfor about 120 minutes. Soundtrack for the 2007-8 Dior Homme Autumn Collection no less, wasn't really much good though iirc.
http://www.arc018.com/release/navigate-navigate
― tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link
http://www.arc018.com/resources/tnp_new380.jpg
oh
well the LAST three times they've broken 7 minutes, ha
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link
i tried listening to their first album last night and other than "Elvis" (which is kidn of fun in an annoying way), it's pretty much unlistenable.
― An embarrassing doorman and garbage man (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
Strongly disagree, better to think of it as a completely different band that hasn't stopped wearing it's post-punk influences on its sleeve. I love it unreservedly.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 9 January 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link