The Cure's Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Poll

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This album is the sound of a band having fun in the studio.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

lol also why did I go all Prince for a second

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

with the help of red wine and heaps of drugs.

(xxpost)

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the builds of "The Kiss" and "The Snakepit" are flat-out genius, rivalled in their catalog only by "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey".

ooooh boy we're gonna have words (when I've worked out just how many awesome Cure build you've snubbed)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

*builds

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm more fond of "Open" as a, well, opener.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Some of The Cure's great builds aren't at the start of the song, see for instance the build to the second chorus of "The Promise"

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

looking forward to watching LJ school Dan on the cure

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

So much wisdom will be revealed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Even something like "The Caterpillar" (which just came on) has a genuinely brilliant, in fact near-perfect build-up, introducing so many musical and emotional themes with busy percussion, playful piano leads and some dramatic off-kilter strings. It's not quite as spectacular as, say, "The Kiss" or "Pornography" or "Homesick" or whatever, but it further adds to the fact that Smith really knew how to write a motherfukken song, and REALLY knew how to make a song's sound work with its title and lyrical themes.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

that should read "MERELY with busy percussion..."

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

The sounds and themes of a caterpillar.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, but also themes of doubt, of excitement, of confusion, hesitancy, which all tie in with the song's allegorical romantic purpose. All of these themes are musically conveyed by that 30-second intro.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

My brother does an amazing fucking impression of how Robert Smith acts in videos.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah dude for practical intents and purposes 30 seconds is not long enough for something to qualify as a build in a Cure song

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

and both "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey" are better than "Homesick"

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

You can have "All Cats Are Grey" any day of the week, amazing song. Not so sure about "Faith" yet. *amends iTunes selection*

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

When that water-drop sound-effect comes in with the keyboards, it's like the saddest moment in music or something

...and even then, it isn't my favourite track on the album (that would be "The Drowning Man")

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

No, "All Cats Are Grey" owns that album IMO (altho the segues on the second half are among the greatest achievements in Western music)

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

whoa

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It's definitely up there ALMOST alongside "The Drowning Man" for me, somewhere near "The Funeral Party" in a sort-of tie for second. The organ/piano call and response in the outro as well...oh man.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

ENOUGH FAITH TALK, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT KMx3

I think the most underrated song on this album is "The Perfect Girl".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I REALLY liked "The Perfect Girl" on my Big Listen-Through just now

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

(fwiw, on listening just now, for the first time in a while, it's clear that ACAG is MILES ahead of TFP)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"A Letter to Elise" is an inferior version of "The Perfect Girl."

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

("The Funeral Party" is my dad's favorite Cure song!)

Also Alfred OTM.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I always felt that "A Letter to Elise" was an inferior version of "Catch"!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

It's kind of a cross between the two, isn't it.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"But I used to try to catch Elise
She was the closest thing to perfect to me."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Like Cockatoos, no hesitation

― From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten)

Ditto.

FYI - this is my favorite snow-shoveling album of all time, I habitually pull it out every time we get a snowstorm worthy of sidewalk clearing.

zaxxon25, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to this album during dental work once. The dentist said I could put a CD on and I was like, "Hey I have one on me!" and it really wasn't the best selection for a soundtrack to teeth drilling.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahaha

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I voted too quickly (for "Why Can't I Be You?") forgetting that I have inordinate love for "Catch."

Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

xxp hahahhaha

Perfect Girl is the weakest song on the album. As a Cure-obsessed teen, my fave would have been 'Snakepit'. 'The Kiss' is a con tender too but I might have overplayed it. Maybe I should stand up for If Only Tonight, which doesnt get enough love on this thread.

Also OTM to whoever wrt 'All Cats are Grey'. The build-up but also the last coda is probably this band's finest achievement.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys are all right about this being an amazing album. What's even more impressive (and would make this poll even more impossible) is that the B-sides released during this era were also way up there with what made it on the album. I mean if "Breathe" was on KM3 it would get my vote.
As it is, I'm torn between "If Only Tonight", "Like Cockatoos", "How Beautiful...", and "The Snakepit".

And yes "All Cats Are Grey" is godlike genius.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

it really wasn't the best selection for a soundtrack to teeth drilling.

I shudder at the thought of hearing Pornography at the dentist's instead, though.

Coffee Table LP's Never Breathe! (Bimble), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

You'll never watch Marathon Man the same way.

"It is a simple choice between pain and relief...and it doesn't matter if we all die."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I always felt that "A Letter to Elise" was an inferior version of "Catch"!
I always felt Catch was an inferior version of 'A letter to Elise'.

Josh L, Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, did I love The Cure. But I loathed this album when it came out and I still do. It seemed to me to sound like the little scraps of multicolored construction paper left over from the grand spectacle of "The Head On The Door." I always thought "The Perfect Girl" was excellent, though. But I am unreliable, I think "The Top" is highly entertaining and it gets no love at all.

Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Adding another vote to "Just Like Heaven's" landslide. Even with such a great song as "Catch" in the competition, this is no doubt really.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Some of The Cure's great builds aren't at the start of the song, see for instance the build to the second chorus of "The Promise" searing guitar lead in Bloodflowers

Now we're talking!

ilxor, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link

This is one of my least favourite Cure albums btw. But like most double albums, it would have worked out great as a single one.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link

No no no

baaderonixx, Thursday, 19 February 2009 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link

perfect as it is

baaderonixx, Thursday, 19 February 2009 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link

sprawling, daring and FUN

baaderonixx, Thursday, 19 February 2009 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link

sbdy OTM upthread about this being the band of having the most awesome time in a studio - one of these moments when touched by grace everything you dabble with turns to gold. Maybe not my favorite, but this is really the ultimate Cure album.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 19 February 2009 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree with geir actually, as far as this being one of the cure's worst records. definitely long and sprawling, but in the most erratic way. i never did quite warm to this band when it was in lucky dip mode. i much prefer the unity of sound they managed to encapsulate across albums such as 'disintegration', where they channeled fewer and more specific moods and nailed them. robert smith in uber-zealous vocal mode is also a little irksome for me these days. and as far as the whole juxtaposition of dark and light shades from song to song goes, i think 'wish' did a much better job. and that album had awesome production that holds up really nicely. 'kiss me...' seems a little dated in its sound, and whereas cure records previous to this almost seem contemporary due to the manner in which their fundamental feel and sonic textures have been recreated by newer bands countless times since, this one finds itself as a bit of an odd man out - sounding a little too singular and isolated in its era for its own good.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 19 February 2009 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link

AS IF JUST LIKE HEAVEN ISN'T GOING TO WIN! MOST PREDICTABLE ILX POLL EVER

Coffee Table LP's Never Breathe! (Bimble), Thursday, 19 February 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't care what wins, I just hope every song gets at least one vote.

nate woolls, Thursday, 19 February 2009 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link


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