The Cure's Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Poll

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A If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
B The Snakepit
C Like Cockatoos
D Shiver and Shake

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

A If only tonight we could Sleep
B How Beautiful are you
C Just Like Heaven
D Shiver and Shake

Josh L, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

not ranking, but icing sugar is grebt.

remy bean, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

A The Kiss
B The Snakepit
C what the hell this is impossible
D Fight

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Haha, so you're a fan of the boiling, building agony-mounters! :D

(The Snakepit is awesome, but I'm not yet sure it's awesomer than, say, The Wailing Wall)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've reached The Perfect Girl and this is a super album.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

A1 The Kiss 6:14
B3 The Snakepit 6:59
C1 Just Like Heaven 3:30
D3 A Thousand Hours 3:23

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

On side A, I vacillate between "The Kiss" and "Catch".
On side B, it's "How Beautiful You Are..." and "The Snakepit".
On side C, it is literally all of them. fucking hell
On side D, it's "The Perfect Girl", "Shiver and Shake" and "Fight".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

Like Dan this was my Cure gateway, but I gotta admit that the protracted introductions bore me now (Christgau: "Samey samey samey is the strategy--repeat repeat repeat repeat the same four-bar theme for sixteen, twenty-four, forty-eight, sixty-four bars"). I suppose I can defend them as proto-trance or something, but I won't bother, with the exception of "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep," whose Around the World in a Day version of Far Eastern music depends on samey samey samey.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think the builds of "The Kiss" and "The Snakepit" are flat-out genius, rivalled in their catalog only by "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

I still find absolutely charming their dilettantish approach to "world" music and different styles (fake French accordeons, fake sitars, sloppy funk work-outs etc).

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I still think the video to "Why Can't I Be U?" is one of the funniest things ever filmed.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

This album is the sound of a band having fun in the studio.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol also why did I go all Prince for a second

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

with the help of red wine and heaps of drugs.

(xxpost)

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think the builds of "The Kiss" and "The Snakepit" are flat-out genius, rivalled in their catalog only by "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey".

ooooh boy we're gonna have words (when I've worked out just how many awesome Cure build you've snubbed)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

*builds

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm more fond of "Open" as a, well, opener.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

Some of The Cure's great builds aren't at the start of the song, see for instance the build to the second chorus of "The Promise"

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

looking forward to watching LJ school Dan on the cure

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

So much wisdom will be revealed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Even something like "The Caterpillar" (which just came on) has a genuinely brilliant, in fact near-perfect build-up, introducing so many musical and emotional themes with busy percussion, playful piano leads and some dramatic off-kilter strings. It's not quite as spectacular as, say, "The Kiss" or "Pornography" or "Homesick" or whatever, but it further adds to the fact that Smith really knew how to write a motherfukken song, and REALLY knew how to make a song's sound work with its title and lyrical themes.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

that should read "MERELY with busy percussion..."

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

The sounds and themes of a caterpillar.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but also themes of doubt, of excitement, of confusion, hesitancy, which all tie in with the song's allegorical romantic purpose. All of these themes are musically conveyed by that 30-second intro.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

My brother does an amazing fucking impression of how Robert Smith acts in videos.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah dude for practical intents and purposes 30 seconds is not long enough for something to qualify as a build in a Cure song

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

and both "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey" are better than "Homesick"

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

You can have "All Cats Are Grey" any day of the week, amazing song. Not so sure about "Faith" yet. *amends iTunes selection*

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

When that water-drop sound-effect comes in with the keyboards, it's like the saddest moment in music or something

...and even then, it isn't my favourite track on the album (that would be "The Drowning Man")

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

No, "All Cats Are Grey" owns that album IMO (altho the segues on the second half are among the greatest achievements in Western music)

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

whoa

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's definitely up there ALMOST alongside "The Drowning Man" for me, somewhere near "The Funeral Party" in a sort-of tie for second. The organ/piano call and response in the outro as well...oh man.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

ENOUGH FAITH TALK, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT KMx3

I think the most underrated song on this album is "The Perfect Girl".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

I REALLY liked "The Perfect Girl" on my Big Listen-Through just now

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

(fwiw, on listening just now, for the first time in a while, it's clear that ACAG is MILES ahead of TFP)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

"A Letter to Elise" is an inferior version of "The Perfect Girl."

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

("The Funeral Party" is my dad's favorite Cure song!)

Also Alfred OTM.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

I always felt that "A Letter to Elise" was an inferior version of "Catch"!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

It's kind of a cross between the two, isn't it.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

"But I used to try to catch Elise
She was the closest thing to perfect to me."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

Like Cockatoos, no hesitation

― From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten)

Ditto.

FYI - this is my favorite snow-shoveling album of all time, I habitually pull it out every time we get a snowstorm worthy of sidewalk clearing.

zaxxon25, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

I listened to this album during dental work once. The dentist said I could put a CD on and I was like, "Hey I have one on me!" and it really wasn't the best selection for a soundtrack to teeth drilling.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

hahahaha

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think I voted too quickly (for "Why Can't I Be You?") forgetting that I have inordinate love for "Catch."

Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

xxp hahahhaha

Perfect Girl is the weakest song on the album. As a Cure-obsessed teen, my fave would have been 'Snakepit'. 'The Kiss' is a con tender too but I might have overplayed it. Maybe I should stand up for If Only Tonight, which doesnt get enough love on this thread.

Also OTM to whoever wrt 'All Cats are Grey'. The build-up but also the last coda is probably this band's finest achievement.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

You guys are all right about this being an amazing album. What's even more impressive (and would make this poll even more impossible) is that the B-sides released during this era were also way up there with what made it on the album. I mean if "Breathe" was on KM3 it would get my vote.
As it is, I'm torn between "If Only Tonight", "Like Cockatoos", "How Beautiful...", and "The Snakepit".

And yes "All Cats Are Grey" is godlike genius.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

it really wasn't the best selection for a soundtrack to teeth drilling.

I shudder at the thought of hearing Pornography at the dentist's instead, though.

Coffee Table LP's Never Breathe! (Bimble), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

You'll never watch Marathon Man the same way.

"It is a simple choice between pain and relief...and it doesn't matter if we all die."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

just listened to Catch and it really hit me. It's been a while.

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:11 (one year ago) Permalink

I love "Catch" and "Torture". KMKMKM is my favorite Cure album. I love that it's long, I wish they'd found a way to include "A Japanese Dream" and "Breathe" too.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Torture, Hey You and Fight are the only bum notes on this album. The length, the sprawl, the scope are key to the album. HOTD sounds like a set of tinny demos in comparison

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 07:13 (one year ago) Permalink

The Head on the Door is one of the absolute best records The Cure ever made, so I couldn't possibly agree.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:42 (one year ago) Permalink

To each their own. I’d rank it at the bottom of their pre-92 imperial phase

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Did you mean Chain of Flowers and Breathe? I thought A Japanese Dream was pre-87

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (one year ago) Permalink

HOTD is the best Cure album though.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Eh.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:12 (one year ago) Permalink

"A Japanese Dream" was the B-Side to "Why Can't I Be You". (x-post)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npIBmz_i8_A

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, that is good. I was thinking of The Upstairs Room.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:37 (one year ago) Permalink


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