The Cure's Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Poll

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Just Like Heaven; it's pop Cure at its absolute best. From the opening bassline I'm sold.

Josh L, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

This is maybe the only double album I own where I never skip a single song. One of my top 5 albums of all time, without a doubt. Voted for Like Cockatoos, but, really could vote for any of them.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

great poll and so far impossible to decide. Dan is crazy wrt "1000 Hours" and especially the fantastic "Icing Sugar"

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The only one I skip is "Fight"

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

A Thousand Hours would've been my second choice

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm tempted to go with "The Kiss" or "Shiver and Shake", but the 16-year old in me won't allow me to vote for anything other than "Just Like Heaven".

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Kiss" is their best opening track in a catalog full of killer opening tracks. Voting for it without hesitation.

This is almost exactly what I was thinking when I clicked open the thread.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

We should do a side 1/2/3/4 poll instead (even though it would be just as impossible)

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember when John bought this album and played it for me; the last time I had as strong an avaricious reaction to music was when my brother first played his Controversy album for me in 1981.

I don't know what my mom thought about my obsession with this album; I used to play "The Kiss" over and over and over, then I started playing side 3 over and over and over, then I started playing side 2 over and over and over, then finally I taped it and gave the original back to John so he wouldn't pummel it and just listened to it over and over and over and over again.

I have to vote "Like Cockatoos" on this, except for that my real vote is going to "The Snakepit", by which I mean I'm voting "Hot Hot Hot!!!" which of course is a smokescreen for my vote for "The Kiss" the translates to "How Beautiful You Are..." because how could I possibly not vote for "Just Like Heaven" and "Catch" is a must-have but "Torture" is so alluring and grimy and nothing is as visceral as "All I Want" and I can't live without "One More Time" and FOR FUCK'S SAKE THIS WHOLE ALBUM IS FANTASTIC, EVEN THE TWO SONGS I DON'T LIKE ALL THAT MUCH ARE INDISPENSIBLE

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

My first Cure album and the soundtrack of that summer. This record changed my life.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw them on this tour, and the show we went to was broadcast on Radio 1. You could clearly hear my sister screaming "Robert!" between songs.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I am tempted to register many sockpuppets so I can vote for everything

― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 05:09

haha ^^^ this

voted for 'like cockatoos' though.

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I have this album, need to give it a thorough audition. Now seems as good a time as any.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Voted for Hot Hot Hot (but it really *is* Just Like Heaven)

Joe, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

We should do a side 1/2/3/4 poll instead (even though it would be just as impossible)

OK, we can do a mock poll on this thread. Not sure if this will format properly:

A1 The Kiss 6:14
A2 Catch 2:44
A3 Torture 4:18
A4 If Only Tonight We Could Sleep 4:53

B1 Why Can't I Be You? 3:14
B2 How Beautiful You Are 5:14
B3 The Snakepit 6:59
B4 Hey You !!! 2:22

C1 Just Like Heaven 3:30
C2 All I Want 5:19
C3 Hot Hot Hot !!! 3:33
C4 One More Time 4:30
C5 Like Cockatoos 3:39

D1 Icing Sugar 3:49
D2 The Perfect Girl 2:34
D3 A Thousand Hours 3:23
D4 Shiver and Shake 3:28
D5 Fight 4:27

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

A The Kiss
B The Snakepit
C Just Like Heaven
D Shiver and Shake

Side B is the weakest, and the choice there was easy, but otherwise this is really tough!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

A If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
B How Beautiful You Are
C Like Cockatoos
D A Thousand Hours

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

:D @ this album so far, especially Torture into If Only Tonight, awesome stuff

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

The drumming on this album is brilliant. They never really recovered after Boris left.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh shit, my copy doesn't have "Hey You!" on it :(

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"You're just three sick holes that run like sores" is a lyric calculated to make one recoil. It stings.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

A If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
B The Snakepit
C Like Cockatoos
D Shiver and Shake

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

A If only tonight we could Sleep
B How Beautiful are you
C Just Like Heaven
D Shiver and Shake

Josh L, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

not ranking, but icing sugar is grebt.

remy bean, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

A The Kiss
B The Snakepit
C what the hell this is impossible
D Fight

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha, so you're a fan of the boiling, building agony-mounters! :D

(The Snakepit is awesome, but I'm not yet sure it's awesomer than, say, The Wailing Wall)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I've reached The Perfect Girl and this is a super album.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

A1 The Kiss 6:14
B3 The Snakepit 6:59
C1 Just Like Heaven 3:30
D3 A Thousand Hours 3:23

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

On side A, I vacillate between "The Kiss" and "Catch".
On side B, it's "How Beautiful You Are..." and "The Snakepit".
On side C, it is literally all of them. fucking hell
On side D, it's "The Perfect Girl", "Shiver and Shake" and "Fight".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Like Dan this was my Cure gateway, but I gotta admit that the protracted introductions bore me now (Christgau: "Samey samey samey is the strategy--repeat repeat repeat repeat the same four-bar theme for sixteen, twenty-four, forty-eight, sixty-four bars"). I suppose I can defend them as proto-trance or something, but I won't bother, with the exception of "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep," whose Around the World in a Day version of Far Eastern music depends on samey samey samey.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the builds of "The Kiss" and "The Snakepit" are flat-out genius, rivalled in their catalog only by "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey".

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I still find absolutely charming their dilettantish approach to "world" music and different styles (fake French accordeons, fake sitars, sloppy funk work-outs etc).

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I still think the video to "Why Can't I Be U?" is one of the funniest things ever filmed.

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

This album is the sound of a band having fun in the studio.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

lol also why did I go all Prince for a second

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

with the help of red wine and heaps of drugs.

(xxpost)

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the builds of "The Kiss" and "The Snakepit" are flat-out genius, rivalled in their catalog only by "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey".

ooooh boy we're gonna have words (when I've worked out just how many awesome Cure build you've snubbed)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

*builds

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm more fond of "Open" as a, well, opener.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Some of The Cure's great builds aren't at the start of the song, see for instance the build to the second chorus of "The Promise"

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

looking forward to watching LJ school Dan on the cure

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

So much wisdom will be revealed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Even something like "The Caterpillar" (which just came on) has a genuinely brilliant, in fact near-perfect build-up, introducing so many musical and emotional themes with busy percussion, playful piano leads and some dramatic off-kilter strings. It's not quite as spectacular as, say, "The Kiss" or "Pornography" or "Homesick" or whatever, but it further adds to the fact that Smith really knew how to write a motherfukken song, and REALLY knew how to make a song's sound work with its title and lyrical themes.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

that should read "MERELY with busy percussion..."

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

The sounds and themes of a caterpillar.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, but also themes of doubt, of excitement, of confusion, hesitancy, which all tie in with the song's allegorical romantic purpose. All of these themes are musically conveyed by that 30-second intro.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

My brother does an amazing fucking impression of how Robert Smith acts in videos.

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah dude for practical intents and purposes 30 seconds is not long enough for something to qualify as a build in a Cure song

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

and both "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey" are better than "Homesick"

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

ah man "torture" is amazing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

i actually like "Hot Hot Hot!!!" the song is just so funky and fun. they were just throwing things at the wall and made a double album out of it. didn't like it as a single and agree with piscesx that "How Beautiful You Are" should have been the single instead. "A Thousand Hours" need to be on the album as it fits in at the perfect time. "Torture" is stunning, so heavy. i would probably only rank "Shiver and Shake" and "Hey You" in the meh category. the later might just be a product of being left off of the original CD version and never really found it's way back. my two cents in 2020 and good piece Alfred.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link

today i would probably vote for "All I Want."

Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link

We happen to be sitting in our living room, watching a TV production of their 40th Anniversary concert (Hyde Park, London), with closed captioning on. I’ve really never paid attention to his lyrics before, but a lot of them kinda read like “dummy” lyrics... I dunno.

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

Every song on this is so good, except for "A Thousand Hours" which I hate

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

i actually like "Hot Hot Hot!!!" the song is just so funky and fun. they were just throwing things at the wall and made a double album out of it. didn't like it as a single and agree with piscesx that "How Beautiful You Are" should have been the single instead. "A Thousand Hours" need to be on the album as it fits in at the perfect time. "Torture" is stunning, so heavy. i would probably only rank "Shiver and Shake" and "Hey You" in the meh category. the later might just be a product of being left off of the original CD version and never really found it's way back. my two cents in 2020 and good piece Alfred.

― Bee OK, Wednesday, April 22, 2020

Thank you. I prefer the Mixed Up version of HHH!!! but the vocal is an intestinal cramp.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

you’re an intestinal cramp

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

*groan*

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

I love this record and I really love the b-sides disc it came with. My favourite orange thing in the world.

https://www.popsike.com/pix/20120318/251020704065.jpg

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

omigod

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

Oh that is beautiful

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

I would cut Torture and Fight (both cheesy in similar ways) but the rest is perfect. Why Can’t I Be You also grates.
It took me a while to get into them but these days, besides the obvious ones, 1000 Hours (Dan you are crazy) and Icing Sugar are amongst my faves.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

FOR HOW MUCH LOOOONGER CAN I CATERWAUL LIKE A SAD VULTURE INTO THIS WIIII-HIIIIII-HINND

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

I would ditch Snakepit, Shiver and Shake, Torture, and Fight. Only saving Hey You because the album title is in the lyrics and Hot Hot Hot because of the kervorkian remix.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

saving Hey You because the album title is in the lyrics
the album title is literally the first line of the first track, "The Kiss"

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

Bonus, then I’m happy to ditch Hey You too! Are there other albums where the title appears in the lyrics to different songs?

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

All this debate underscores my point -- thanks to Alfred for singling it out -- that the band essentially provided a full array of choices and left you to decide what works best.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

xp: Yes, Wish is another album that has two potential title tracks.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

"The Snakepit" and "Torture" are among the best songs on the album, IMO.

At one point I'd turned this album into a very angry/disjointed playlist:

The Kiss
Torture
How Beautiful You Are...
The Snakepit
All I Want
Like Cockatoos
Shiver and Shake
Fight

^^^ 100% baller IMO

Also, I played "Fight" in high school English class after we discussed "Do not go gentle into that good night" and got a bunch of the honors metalheads into the album.

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

Yeah I dunno. I find Fight pretty cringey these days. And Torture is mostly ruined by that dated horn preset.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

Snakepit, If Only Tonight and Cuckatoos are all-time though.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

"Torture" has a cracker of a bass line.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

Boris/Simon/Pearl are so good on this album

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Listening to this straight through for the first time in ages and I severely underrate this album

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

every song on this is flawless even the bad ones

orifex, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

I listened to that bright orange 12" of b-sides more than the actual album. Also I really loved the cover art during this era of the Cure, aside from the music. My favorite of all their logos!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

Amazed I still have my vinyl copy of this after regrettably purging so many good quality records and CDs during my teen years.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

It's my favorite Cure album. I think "A Japanese Dream" and "Breathe" should've been on it instead of "Shiver and Shake" and "A Thousand Hours", but it was an embarrassment of riches really.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

hi!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

speaking of b-sides that should've replaced lesser album cuts, "a chain of flowers" is actually one of their best songs, full stop.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 10 May 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link


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