Has Led Zeppelin Dated Poorly?

no

yes.

even if it wasn't intended to be their last album, but that's part of why it's so affecting for me.

"In Through The Out Door" was the only Zep album i'm old enough to rembember when it was new. I only listened to pop/top-40 radio at the time, and it sounded like nothing else I'd ever heard on the radio. It also didn't sound much like any other Led Zeppelin album. I still think it's underrated, at least compared to their other albums.

they sound a hell of a lot better to me now than they did in the 80s, so i figure they've dated rather well

Hot dog solo is remarkably pathetic

― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:26 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They really should have flown in James Burton to overdub that one. Jimmy was aiming for it, but the H was taking it's toll that day.

Eh, so his timing and articulation are off a bit. I still think "Hot Dog"'s a great little anomaly in the Crunge/D'yer Maker tradition.

Ha, those are the two songs that bring down HotH from 10/10 status for me.

I mean, it would be hard to flawlessly master all the styles Page tried to play with.

But e.g. "The Rover" and "Stairway" are two more really elegant, memorable solos on top of the one I mentioned. Pretty much everything on Presence is very well-played and well-constructed imo.

Some of JP's weeeirdest soloing on "Presence" too! All that Fender wangbar abuse.

(Love "The Crunge", don't care much for "D'yer Maker" but they both served my point anyways)

Hell yeah

https://traxman1.bandcamp.com/album/traxman-vs-zeppelin-e-p

What fresh, hot garbagey Hell is this?

Guess I should have posted on the footwork thread

Oh god, why?!

Let's remix Led Zeppelin but squash the drums -- the best part -- and replace them with extremely shitty digi-hats and handclaps!

Ok

(LZ drums are all-time but still don't stand up to an 808 on a soundsystem)

This is definitely Not For Me™️

sorry Jord, swing and a miss lol

omg

I find myself appreciating Led Zeppelin more than I ever did other than the time in my life when I was just being exposed to loud, guitar-based music and they served as one of several gateway drugs. And with this newfound appreciation, I find the band's music to be both a perfect encapsulation of a long-gone era, but also somewhat timeless.

See AC/DC for an even better example of what I speak of.

(LZ drums are all-time but still don't stand up to an 808 on a soundsystem)

mix isn’t great but I’d rather hear it than any of their classics

You do you!

it gets much worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8m6yilFSI

I'm a drummer, I looove JB, but the 808 clap has made more people dance than his snare drum sound.

(also if the kick is also meant to be the source of bass in the track, it's usually layered with other samples)

Too lazy to ctrl + f for Page/Mattix jokes but I’m sure ILXors of Time Past got that covered.

People will remember Beyonce and think: Holy Crap, what an insane amount of time, attention and money was abjectly wasted on an egomaniacal, undercooked, overblown 'talent.' She's a pretty face and little more beyond that.

^ better joke than the "Whole Lotta Love" remix
xp

(Sorry Jordan!)

I’m not even a huge beyonce fan but comparing her to zeppelin is almost unfair on zeppelin

TS: ‘Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)’ vs songs about the One Ring.

Ring Cycle obv

otm

(LZ drums are all-time but still don't stand up to an 808 on a soundsystem)

In 2005, I had a chance to see Destiny's Child and I passed it up because of 'school'. I don't know why I air quoted school, I actually had a test. I thought I could catch them on the next tour, but I think you know what happened.

You can still see Beyonce.

All I would see are the two that aren't there.

Jordan's convinced me. All drum tracks should be retroactively swapped out with 808s. Cause dancing, sound systems, etc.

*Throws challops flag*

this is the purest calstars bait (that doesn't involve bars) <3

It does kind of involve children where they shouldn’t be though

this isn't even a well-used or well-mixed 808! It sounds like shit!

^^^
Is this guy intentionally defecating on all sides of the beat?

Like I could see elements (mellotron, etc.) of No Quarter being used in a bobbins way, but this dude (gotta be a dude) wants shooting.

I love footwork but Traxman has always bamboozled me and err... yeah not a fan of this

Ok I'm not going to die on this hill, it's just a silly EP of chopped Led Zep samples in a juke context.

Buuut speaking of context...if the 'When the Levee Breaks' break sounded good in fast dance music, it would be used in fast dance music. JB's drums are huge, wide, and aggressive and so they're usually sampled at slower tempos when you want that rock energy (Beastie Boys, Bjork, blah blah blah). There's a reason why he's not sampled much in drum & bass (although sure, anything's possible).

And 808 bass/kicks/claps are not objectively worse than even the best drummer when it comes to recorded music, they're just different. There's also a reason why you hear them 1000000000x more than Led Zep drum loops, and it has to do with how effective they are, which partly has due with the sheer frequencies involved, and the cultural weight at this point. I really should not have to explain this in 2020.

Dunno, who did Led Zeppelin go out with?