Search: Metal that Sounds Like Glenn Branca

It and Stetson pushing the top of mine too. Not heard Metheny/Zorn - my kinda thing?

I don't really know your tastes when it comes to this sort of thing but you can hear the first track here: http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/05/29/masada-metheny-zor/

(I was referring to "Mastema", the first Youtube there.)

That's very cool.

A couple of the tracks are smoother/mellower than that, which turns off some people, but I like that too. I think he's probably the best living non-classical guitarist.

yeah I definitely would prefer the crazier end of this particular spectrum, so long as it's well-composed &c

listened to it 2 or 3 times and it's something I'll pursue. zorn has too much music though

Imago, have you heard Nels Cline Singers' Initiate? It pretty much completely inhabits the crazier end of that spectrum, with none of the smooth/glossy elements that you get with Metheny.

Heard a couple of tracks. In fact preferred the Metheny thing, although Cline's stuff is obviously very pretty. Metheny thing was sonically more appealing.

Would the Haino/ORourke/Ambarchi album releases this year be included in this? I haven't heard it but liked Imikizushi and feel like that at least somewhat fit these parameters

*released

Will listen later when I'm at home. Meanwhile, you gotta hear Jute Gyte.

Would the Haino/ORourke/Ambarchi album releases this year be included in this?

Mmmmmaybe. Definitely good stuff and worth hearing, though. As is the Stephen O'Malley/Steve Noble duo album from a year or two back.

Yeah, we're on a tangent here (my fault). The Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi album is really awesome but isn't really Branca-metal imo.

Never heard of O'Malley/Noble!

Here's a review (not by me). It's on Bo'Weavil.

I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:40 (1 month ago)

oh fuck yes this is wonderful

Caspar Brötzmann put out a new album this week with a group called NOHOME that includes bassist Marino Pliakas and drummer Michael Wertmüller, who are also the rhythm section from Peter Brötzmann's Full Blast group (and who are fucking amazing). The album also includes FM Einheit of Einstürzende Neubauten on two tracks, playing "steel." It was recorded at the group's second-ever concert, last August. Here's video of their first show, from last June:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBZhW2ZuzpI

^ relevant to my interests

Jute Gyte might have become the best rock band in the world last week:
http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/vast-chains

Yeah just a cursory listen and: wow

So now I just added that NOHOME to my Amazon Wish List...

this jute gyte thing is working for me

does this marginalize traditional black metal?
if so, i'm digging it

i don't know what it does. it's arguably a good deal more hellish than that gorguts/ulcerate type stuff that so cruelly frosts my muffins, but i'm finding it p entertaining. sounds like a dying rust whale.

what's with the meninas

that caught my eye too, especially since his last album's cover also used an art history 101 staple.

both paintings have mirrors in the background and if you look at the pictures uploaded on bandcamp, the cover of the actual CD for each is a magnified detail of the reflected image

I think this fellow might be my favourite artist currently operating. Vast Chains is beyond Discontinuities - well beyond it in fact; crazier, darker, more intense - above all, sustained. I'm fairly obsessed with it right now.

does this marginalize traditional black metal?

this is really cool, but I don't think it marginalizes anything -- rather, it ties things together. In this case, micro-tonality (and also a similar idea as lamont young had on the Well-Tuned Piano) and black/death metal. I only have heard the previous album thanks to imago recommendation, but on the whole, it doesn't seem as "rocking" (?) as, say, an old-school Gorgoroth or Darkthrone record, but the compositions are totally different. I mean, it sounds "composed", as opposed to banged out and pummelled via lofi production and blastbeats. Seems like something to listen to, at least first, rather than fall into. But it does hit hard, and I respect it going for the jugular. Anyway, really interested thus far.

The way you guys are describing this music makes me want to listen to metal!

technically more Terry Riley but definitely hear some Branca in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2EGKt8yONI
Orthrelm - OV

Yeah imago my impression is that Vast Chains is actually a step up too.

Note that in the liner notes it says it was made between 2011-12. I wonder if dude has two or three better albums in the can at this moment

I agree with what people have been saying about that new Jute Gyte, Discontinuities for me was easy to admire but hard to love, this one tempers the microtonal oddness with more tangible riffs and structures that make it just a bit more pleasing to listen to.

I'll second Orthrelm too, Mick Barr is a beast

i wonder if they (jute gyte) go for kind of a droney doomy plod because it helps the micro-tones resonate and collide and pile up, seems like if they played faster, more rhythmically orthodox metal (of some non-doom style), it would get just cacophonous

o wait this next one's a lot more frantic

which makes for more of a no wavey sonic youthey chimey thing, with more 'unison' lines

mommy, i'm scared

this sounds like what people say sonic youth sounded like in the 80s

I'd dispute that it's a 'droney doomy plod' throughout - while the pace is rarely what you'd call hurried (Jute Gyte being of the 'let it stew slowly into shape' school of musical resolution) there are practically ambient passages interspersed with frantic, extremely noisy sections that are held back from cacophony not by sonic reserve but by excellent and thoughtful composition. The guitar tracks are overlaid with a great deal of care and technical precision, so that a certain clarity is always present even through walls of microtonal & polymetric distortion. I don't think the speed is what makes it listenable. Microtonal metal played in the blistering styles of Orthrelm or Deathspell Omega might also work, as both of those acts are similarly precise in their composition. I just think Adam K is a brilliant, brilliant songwriter who has found an incredible way to realise his visions.

oh xposts :D

i do think there's more of a lockstepping to the arrangements once they hit higher speeds, for the most part, but then speed confers a different sort of effect on the sounds, say, when they become relatively more repetitive, than at the slower speeds where things sound less repetitive, more lyrical

yes - at the slower speeds it has the feel of a great, slightly and deliberately disjointed engine, a lyrical treatise as you say - perhaps one that attempts to reveal the chaos immanent in order, or vice versa - but at greater speeds it has a more direct & annihilatory purpose, the pigfuck into gnostic oblivion, the menacing, chanting expression of an attempt to express whose moment has already flown (and yet, cruelly repeating - the repetition ensuring it wasn't just a passing thought but a state of perhaps permanent insanity)

the final track is a particular masterpiece as it manages to synthesis these two speeds into a single lumbering-yet-lightspeed manifesto, a wavering, confounding slab of sound. in fact I'd say this album achieves this synthesis to varying degrees throughout - and does so more successfully than its already-brilliant predecessor

the melodies here are so, so lovely, obv; so lovely and so blasted

that poor obliterated pig

this track is pretty badass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVWF__KVJHs

mentioned elsewhere, but i just ordered CD-Rs of the last two joots off dude's bandcamp. he looks to have more than 20 full albums available, all currently in print on CD-R & avail for download. anyone dug back beyond the recent "microtonal black metal" stuff? loving discontinuities and vast chaing, but content to explore there for the moment.

hobo chaing ba

theres a ton on Spotify

The Jute Gyte music seems interesting but the vocals suck-diddly-uck. I have download links for the two new ones but haven't used them yet because of that.

interesting interview with Adam K:

http://thegrindthatannoys.com/2014/03/27/jute-gyte-interview/

Rivalling the Jute Gyte album imo:
https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook

Better link:
https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora

Yes! The new Botanist album is so fucking majestic and moving. I love it. Gives me a Branca vibe big time.

okay I'm way into Botanist