American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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the guy on Facebook who wishes death and dismemberment on all Republicans (we all have that guy, right?) posted a link to a story on the Evo Morales's plane being grounded and searched, yada yada yada.

http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/18066-evo-morales-the-president-of-bolivia-accuses-the-white-house-of-kidnapping-him-by-getting-european-allies-to-force-land-his-plane-in-austria

then a second-level comment to someone wanting to boycott the countries involved:
"Let's start with Israeli companies like SodaStream, Sabra, etc before going after countries that have at least a modicum of respect for Palestinian rights."

Guy who brings up Palestinians no matter what should be a square on Internet comment bingo.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 4 July 2013 07:35 (ten years ago) link

man is there already an internet comment bingo

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 5 July 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

bunch of ilxors on the edge of their seats waiting for that last hit

mookieproof, Friday, 5 July 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link

So, have there been any noticeable sequester effects yet? Besides the occasional curtailing of museum hours or canceling fireworks displays?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 July 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

A shitload of poor kids have been dropped from Headstart programs.

Aimless, Friday, 5 July 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link

The annual Cleveland Air Show was cancelled. (Not that I'll miss it, fuck a bunch of supersonic jets doing flybys for a week.)

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Friday, 5 July 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-06-30/politics/40292466_1_sequestration-predictions-obama-administration

In 11 cases, sequestration turned out to be as bad as advertised, or worse.

The Labor Department had predicted that emergency unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed would be cut by 9.4 percent. But in some states, the reductions have been larger: 11 percent. For an individual, that could mean $450 less in benefits this year.

At the Pentagon, officials had predicted that they would reduce training for the Army, flying time for the Air Force and ship deployments for the Navy. They did all three. “It’s extremely hard to show a degradation in our readiness, although we feel it deeply across the force,” Pentagon spokeswoman Beth Robbins said.

Across the government, more than 125,000 employees have been furloughed from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Internal Revenue Service, and other agencies. About 650,000 Defense Department civilians will start taking 11 unpaid days next week. Public defenders are losing up to 15 days of pay.

In 24 cases, however, The Post’s review showed that the predictions were wrong — sequestration had not lived up to the administration’s alarms.

curmudgeon, Friday, 5 July 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

So, have there been any noticeable sequester effects yet? Besides the occasional curtailing of museum hours or canceling fireworks displays?

one very noticeable effect for me is that i'm on mandatory furlough today! sadtrombone.wav

Z S, Friday, 5 July 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

I know someone who is on furlough on Monday

curmudgeon, Friday, 5 July 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

Good article in the N&O today about 'what happens next' with the new law in NC—both the House leader & Gov. McCrory (who made a pre-election pledge not to sign any legislation restricting abortion, fwiw) are moderate Republican big-business-types who seem reluctant to dirty their hands with divisive culture-war bullshit. So if you wanna call this the GOP's "revenge", just keep in mind that it's a very poorly-planned revenge.

Of course, McCrory can sit back and let the NC House/Senate overturn his veto, if he stands up to them (and I'm going to take a stab in the dark that he won't protest the end of early voting and voting ID restrictions they're bringing in...)

carson dial, Friday, 5 July 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

It seems like the effects are diffuse enough that maybe they're just not overwhelming? I mean, I know people affected by it, most obviously gov workers, but maybe it's just too early to tell how damaging it will be.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 July 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

The most prevalent stories I've read about the sequester, apart from the Headstart enrollment hit, have been of the nature of -- 'here's this worthwhile program we're having to put in mothballs, but the irony is that keeping it suspended costs money, too, and starting it back up will be even more expensive than if we'd never cut it back.'

Aimless, Friday, 5 July 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

Olympic ping-pong team, contestant on Jeopardy, key grip for the next Scorsese film--the options out there are theoretically unlimited.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rick-perry-2016-is-option

clemenza, Sunday, 7 July 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

poll

https://twitter.com/ConnieSchultz/status/353923629219721216/photo/1

goole, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link

A woman should give this fat asshole a haircut amirite

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 8 July 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

mos def gives us a look at what "doctors" at guantanamo are doing to the men who are hunger striking. a warning - it's pretty nauseating, in all seriousness

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jul/08/mos-def-force-fed-guantanamo-bay-video?CMP=twt_gu

k3vin k., Monday, 8 July 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

Rick Perry not seeking reelection

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

idgi mos def asks to be force fed then hes all begging to stop make up yr mind bro

lag∞n, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/florida-banned-computers_n_3561701.html

Ha, Florida accidentally bans smartphones and computers in their quest to stop internet cafes that act as havens for gambling (or something)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link

Coming this fall (same 'ol, same 'ol):

http://mobile.nationaljournal.com/congress/house-republicans-draft-their-debt-ceiling-playbook-20130707

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/07/racists-love-ron-and-rand-paul-for-some-reason.html

i don't think chait really 'gets' the Old Right

goole, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

Segregation was in large part a policy of government, not the free market. But it took intrusive federal power to destroy segregation.

I don't think "but" is the right word here. Wouldn't "consequently" make more sense?

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

BJSSP
Question: have we ever figured out who wrote those newsletters for Ron Paul? It's a question on the mind of every freedom loving American.

My guess is, Obama knows, but he's keeping it a secret, so he can embarrass Paul and establish the NAFTA superhighway, paid for by confiscating the gold at gun point out right out of every (white) person's home.
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Z S, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

too many syllables for Chait.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

"therefore"?

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

"butthole"

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

Al do you understand humor

waterface, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

I don't think you can use "butthole" as a conjunction

*waits for it*

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

what if you shortened it to "butt"

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

Segregation was in large part a policy of government, not the free market. Butt took intrusive federal power to destroy segregation.

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

I don't think you can use "butthole" as a conjunction

That's What Steve Said

waterface, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

"Very, very few Rand Paul fans are glad Abraham Lincoln was shot."

u suuuuure about this jc?

max, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

they are unhappy he was shot as late as 1865

goole, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

dunno about rand but i doubt there are even one in a hundred ron paul fans who don't sputter with fury at the mention of lincoln's name.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

More sequester damage.

Also, Chuck Todd wises up.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link

Meanwhile, in Texas...

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

"The engagement from advocates on both sides of the issue showed that the legislative and electoral process is working, said state Rep. Greg Bonnen, R-Friendswood, a physician."

fuck this dude

1staethyr, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link

Chuck Todd...otm? it feels so fucking weird to say that. i mean, it's nothing original, but for once he seems to have accidentally pulled his head up out of the sand

Z S, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link

But he's still naive re some things:

that copycat bullet: And if Republicans are trying to stop Democratic laws from being implemented or preventing executive-branch appointees from being confirmed, then you can bet that Democrats will return the favor the next time there’s a GOP president

Since when have Democrats ever shown that they will play hardball like Republicans? Yea, Dems opposed Bork and a few other people, but they have never done anything to the extent that Republicans in the current Congress have.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

Feel like the debt ceiling hostage crisis we deal with every couple months is due to the dems trying to use it to extract concessions from the gwb administration..

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

obv a little bit apples and oranges there

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

they have never done anything to the extent that Republicans in the current Congress have.

that's because Dems have fewer beliefs, or are less able to fake having as many.

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

nobody has every done anything to the extent that republicans in current congress have, so it's a bad comparison

iatee, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

Which is why Chuck Todd should not have phrased his "copycat" bullet the way he did.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

the Dems have so few instances of hardball post-LBJ that it's no wonder the GOP yells BORK BORK BORK and MIGUEL ESTRADA ad nauseum

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

HARRIET MYERS

lol

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

dems did not take down harriet miers

iatee, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link


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