Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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that there are so many cases of multiple bands with the same name sharing a page

Also single bands split up, ie Afghan Whigs and The Afghan Whigs get half the albums each, same for Godspeed You Black Emperor with and without capitalisation

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 June 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

You haven't listened to Parachute by Future in a while. Play now?

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 June 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link

You listened to Yusef Lateef. You might like DJ-Kicks Motor City Drum ENsemble

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 June 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

I'm on premium in US and spotify sent a special email to let me know the eagles were available. They also recommended devo based on my sly and the family stone listening.

Sufjan Grafton, Saturday, 29 June 2013 07:51 (ten years ago) link

But talking about your spotify recs is like talking about your grand kids at this point

Sufjan Grafton, Saturday, 29 June 2013 07:52 (ten years ago) link

eagles have not been on spotify prior cuz i have bizarrely been wishing they were on spotify for awhile (precisely the kind of act i'd like to check out but god no not dl onto my harddrive). man a few months ago i just assumed that the heavy hitter catalog acts - pink floyd, eagles, ac/dc, led zeppelin, beatles - would never end up on there. feels like metallica opened the floodgates.

balls, Saturday, 29 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

presumably the belated AOR gods all getting some big upfront checks for this, right? i mean, the royalties are shit and all it could do is cut into their Wal-Mart best-of sales.

da croupier, Saturday, 29 June 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

I mean, while I'm all for getting to leisurely skim through discographies I'd otherwise never experience, I don't see what's in it for them unless someone's giving them a healthy advance

da croupier, Saturday, 29 June 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link

How much are the little guys making off of this?

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 29 June 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

I guess if you've already bought the album it should be an incremental additional paycheck for them, which is nice for those you want to support

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 29 June 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

Fuck you Spotify, with all your suggestions. You make me want to cancel my subscription, if not stop listening to music altogether.

This sums up pain-in-the-ass-know-it-all perfectly!

http://imgur.com/NqBP1Ah

bendy, Sunday, 30 June 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

will it work this time....
http://i.imgur.com/NqBP1Ah.png?1

bendy, Sunday, 30 June 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

lol at spotify autogenerating ilxor Introduce Yourself posts: "I like Bud Powell AND John Zorn."

Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 June 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

ADVANCE AUTO PARTS

― Spectrum, Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:43 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

came here to post this

but this is OTM:

There are a lot of little things about Spotify that suggest "not programmed by people who actually love music," which is a shame since on the whole it's such a great program. E.g. the fact that there are so many cases of multiple bands with the same name sharing a page, the fact that all the offbrand comps crowd out the albums, the bizarre chronological organization, the lack of advanced search capabilities, etc.

― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, June 28, 2013 4:34 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The chronological stuff drives me nuts. How hard could it really be to get the albums in order (and consistently with their actual release dates and note 2009 for something that came out in the 60s)?

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 July 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link

Everything you guys are complaining about sounds like bad metadata which can be really hard to solve.

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 1 July 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

Using reissue release dates is probably good in some cases. For some artists, you have lots of compilations and whatnot on various labels that would all be on top if they always used original release dates.

timellison, Monday, 1 July 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link

Okay, sure, but maybe it could be an option or something. I dunno. Allmusic, despite something like seventeen bad redesigns over the years, is still pretty easy to use when it comes to finding albums, in order, and thus orienting yourself in the career of an artist you're curious about.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 July 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link

these guys don't care about music particularly, they care about making a billion dollar company

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 05:34 (ten years ago) link

another annoying thing is when they put up an album with the main tracks as Spotify interviews and the actual music contained under "additional tracks" so that when you add the album to a playlist all you get all the interviews.

mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Monday, 1 July 2013 10:12 (ten years ago) link

Soundrop for iphone is back https://itunes.apple.com/app/soundrop.fm/id490113863?ls=1&mt=8

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 1 July 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

Using reissue release dates is probably good in some cases. For some artists, you have lots of compilations and whatnot on various labels that would all be on top if they always used original release dates.

― timellison, Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:08 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but what happens instead is that you get one legit reissue mixed in with 30 different offbrand comps. This morning I tried to find some Louis Armstrong to play for K and it was just impossible to find what I wanted -- there were like 50 different fake comps just released in the last year or two. Anything in the public domain gets repackaged dozens of times. This is probably only true for a relatively small number of artists, and Spotify should just have a bit of quality control.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 July 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link

these guys don't care about music particularly, they care about making a billion dollar company

― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, July 1, 2013 1:34 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sure, but if you don't keep the nerds and "tastemakers" happy, you risk losing them to another company that does a better job of it, which can then start pulling other customers as well.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 July 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

Piece-of-crap comps and awful rerecorded versions are the bane of my Spotify existence. Half the time when you want a song older than 1980 you feel like you're rifling through the $3 bin at Best Buy. Do I sit and click on each of these versions of "The Rapper" until I throw my hands up and accept they don't have it, or what?

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 July 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

Definitely makes a mockery of our younger selves reading the old skool rock critics like Greil Marcus and Dave Marsh in order to find out which Little Richard and Chuck Berry comps to get only to be horrified when our college roommate showed up with the rerecorded versions.

Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 July 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone here tried any of the soundrop rooms on spotify?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

JOIN US, JOIN US
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/underground-metal

Neil S, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

there's more to it than the ilxor or metal rooms btw. There's rooms for everything. And you can create your own rooms too.
Its available on Spotify, facebook app and webapp (they both use youtube instead of spotify)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link

Re the off brand crappy comp plague, for this reason I REALLY wish you could see record label on the iOS app.

Thelema & Louise (Jon Lewis), Monday, 1 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

These problems have existed for years they wont change it now. Still no decent search function has been made. Why??????????

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

the "tastemaker" is a myth perpetuated by marketing types who consider themselves hipper than they actually are

maura, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

You're not a tastemaker Maura?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

I don't know about that. I first heard about Spotify a few years ago here, on ILM, from people who I know are obsessive about music. Eventually I tried it, and then I turned several of my co-workers onto it. If something better comes along that does a better job of catering to people who really care about music, I will switch to it, and then I will start telling people about it. This doesn't make me "hip," I just spend more time listening to a wider variety music than a lot of the people I know. It's not that different than the go-to lady in my office for restaurant recommendations. She's not "hip" in the sense that she's a middle-aged career paralegal who wears "funky" jewelry. But she goes out all the time to restaurants and has pretty good taste, and because she eats in a lot of restaurants, she's going to be more discerning from experience. So make her happy and you increase the chances that everyone else in the office will come.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 July 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link

maura otm; music nerds are a tiny sliver of the population and these guys are aiming at getting our mothers to subscribe
i have hated the "tastemaker" label ever since I heard it, it's an easy way of saying "unpaid critic"

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

it's not even about attracting nerds. if there was a better service, people would go there and tell their friends. That's what happened with Friendster and Myspace. The thing is, it's highly unlikely we'll see a place with better tech AND the same depth of catalog.

da croupier, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

the catalog has never been more accessible for folks with deep pockets; my understanding is that the remaining major labels are deeply invested enough in spotify succeeding that it's unlikely they'll fully support and cosign with anyone else until spotify is out of the pool. Aren't spot still bleeding cash right now? anyways, if you want curation, i'm sure they'll be several alternatives in 2014 or so, starting with daisy.

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

I also always thought Spotify should just buy Pandora and use their radio technology, since Spotify's is inferior.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

xpost that's the thing - why would anyone BOTHER creating a quality alternative to spotify (or tumblr, for that matter) when they're so unprofitable

da croupier, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

because they're rich and filled with hubris, i.e. reznor and dre, i guess

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

Rick Rubin is on the board of MOG

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

they wheel him into board meetings on a couch

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

They have the potential to be profitable though. Still only a small fraction of the potential audience online. A lot of their costs won't increase as fast as their revenue as they add more users.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

it's definitely possible someone will come with a better way to give people What They Want re: online music, which may not be What Nerds Want. But at this point, with Spotify adding users and coughing up advances to get those AOR titans to come around, if someone had a killer curator app or whatever, it seems just as likely that spotify would buy it than that a new empire would build up around it.

da croupier, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

that's possible, but i think it's equally likely that they reach a point where they hit nova, sell out to facebook, revamp interface and restaff 90% of their people and then who knows.

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

reznor's thing has to be some kind of 'you like NIN, consider psychic tv' deal, right? i dunno if your average late adapater really wishes a nerd was there to nudge them towards hipper shit when they're jamming out to the 90s at the office.

da croupier, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

adapter, sorry

da croupier, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

it's "adoptater"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

the new yorker profile that talked about daisy made it sound like trent is a music nerd with an obscene amount of money who is basically looking at this and saying "hey there's a market!"
seems doomed to me, but what do i know.

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

it's "adoptater"

d'oh

da croupier, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link

haha I suggest you dont take your mobile if you're going for a swim
http://i.imgur.com/0jpPMID.png

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link


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