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there was a documentary on bbc tv a couple of days ago about vivian maier. it should be pretty easy to find online. i just watched it & really liked it, though there is a lot of really dubious narration (SPOILER: they decide she gave up on life at the point where she began shooting garbage). joel meyerowitz contributes, intensely. it is a really intense reminder of how good she was, just cause it cycles through so much of her work,

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IEX8S_Mjdb4/Uc3jmbi88ZI/AAAAAAAABeE/v1mwZp9Qwro/s0/vlcsnap-2013-06-27-22h19m05s145.png

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_XSOIsSiCKs/Uc3jlnMg_dI/AAAAAAAABd4/1rGvhjebZFo/s800/vlcsnap-2013-06-27-22h19m33s242.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Rk_nii_J10g/Uc3jlvljklI/AAAAAAAABeA/hEuufvqEE4Q/s800/vlcsnap-2013-06-27-22h22m25s135.png

they also keep emphasising just the sheer quantity of photographs she shot, which i mean maybe to a michael jones or a roll-a-week chinavision might be something but .....
no, kidding, but it didn't seem that many, in seriousness. it must be weird shooting with a camera that gets twelve shots to a roll, though. all of this made me wonder; did you guys ever use a tlr camera? the tones on some of the photos were just breathtaking, i guess particularly because they're formally terrific portraits of scenarios you usually see shot on smaller stock.

didn't find your post too heavy, michael. i think it is pretty good to just be shooting when you want to shoot. also just in defence of grey days, sometimes colours pop harder in the rain, ime.

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Friday, 28 June 2013 19:46 (seven years ago) link

alright out with it. how many rolls are you shooting per week?? the public wants to know

chinavision!, Friday, 28 June 2013 20:04 (seven years ago) link

i gotta post a picture of my fridge. it's disgusting. both in the dietary & photographic senses. i think i have screwed up by shooting a lot of twenty four exposure films, buying superia three packs from walmart. it goes by so quickly. for the last while if it wasn't quite a roll a day it was probably still five a week. i drove to vermont, i was at a barbecue. yesterday was such a good day. i am really in love with what i am doing with it, though, even when it is not good. there is a part in the vivian maier programme where they show a wall at an exhibition of hers in which they've sequenced blow ups of the negatives in chronological order, so you can just see her zig-zagging across town, tracking certain scenes, covering the same types of material again against different backdrops, & sometimes i look through what i've shot & find it's like ... more scenes of my friends talking, another of somebody drawing on a blackboard at school, another vague formation of blossom on the ground & whatever, but the repetition of it & the sense of time passing with those things being directly juxtaposed is really satisfying to me. like so much better as a document than as photographs. diarism.

i was just looking at some tri-x i shot & i don't know why i shoot anything else. which in fairness is how i feel about several different stocks.

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Friday, 28 June 2013 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Oh, definitely prefer flat light to blazing sun but it's difficult to have a golden hour when there's been no gold all day.

Right, back to the 251 images I shot at a kids' sports event in the local park yesterday. Gotta find 10 good ones for their website. I was cycling between three primes, never sure what I should be doing, forever in the wrong place.

Michael Jones, Friday, 28 June 2013 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Schlump... guessing these means a lot of unprocessed stuff huh? That's a good feeling to think of the potential of all those roll.

Right so I'm prob not shooting as much as you, but I still do about 20-30 rolls every month (or so). So I guess .5 to 1 rolls/day, but the way I shoot kinda means 4 days for 20 shots and then like 5 rolls in 3 cameras in 4 hours on some day. And I only develop every couple of months now and I find that that makes me waaaay pickier about what I qualify as useable.

My new Friday tradition this summer seems to be getting a slight buzz then trying to burn thru rolls in soho or the lower east side. The (illusory) single life creates strange and fun habits.

chinavision!, Friday, 28 June 2013 22:16 (seven years ago) link

I used to hate blazing sun for photos but now I can dig it. But only if I'm shooting b&w. I don't have so much luck w color.

chinavision!, Friday, 28 June 2013 22:18 (seven years ago) link

I decided to do a Flickr set for the near-daily photos of the sky I take on my rail commute with the iPhone thesedays:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pernfors88/sets/72157634338728956/

Michael Jones, Friday, 28 June 2013 22:37 (seven years ago) link

stuff piles up, for sure, but I'm in a pretty good routine with it, like atm I'm scanning through stuff from mid-March; I think cause in February it was minus thirty out, & actively painful to take photographs, I shot less, so got to catch up some. writing down how much I shoot did take the edge off my macho sabre-rattling some, sure (& I think if you're shooting that much ~ on the street ~ that's almost another thing altogether, a lot of my stuff being p domestic or less in the moment/risky). it isn't like a Winograndian two rolls a day or anything. it's just that I scan & publish/"publish" really pretty much all of it that makes me feel prolific. the mixture of time before seeing & spending time scanning should have a very positive effect on the editing process but I kinda like the digital-esque maximalism right now. btw I feel like I have maybe said this frequently since beginning to scan negs but I'm such a superia convert; it scans so nicely, I have a really nice set of grainy winter 1600s that whenever I see make me want to pick up some more.

yr downtown routine is so classic! feel like this is gonna make you into a manhattan stock character, like a cross between dennis hopper in apocalypse now & the bird lady in home alone ii.

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Friday, 28 June 2013 23:14 (seven years ago) link

, lost in new york

psyched to check yr sunset sets, Michael, I've been digi-snapping a lot myself

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Friday, 28 June 2013 23:15 (seven years ago) link

yeah these are really nice

did you ever see those Abbas Kiarostami photos, Roads and Rain,

http://guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2009/may/19/abbas-kiarostami-photography-exhibition

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Friday, 28 June 2013 23:18 (seven years ago) link

Oh wow, I love those. The iPhone freedom is a great thing; not self-conscious about snapping out of packed trains and the happy accidents of reflections and imperfections - the sort of things I'd delete an SLR shot for - are just grist to the mill.

Michael Jones, Friday, 28 June 2013 23:28 (seven years ago) link

Oddly enough it was my mum that told me the Maier programme was on, having talked about her work before. Not watched it yet, will do over the weekend. Although I've done one or two black and white rolls this year, I think the colour film I dropped off last night was the first this year - a drop off from last year, but even then I was only one a week or fortnight, nowhere near schlump or chinavision! levels!

Not sure if here or "Let us discuss..." is the place, but just home from Glasgow, went to the opening of an exhibition of some of Steve Gullicks's 2000-2006 work, with a talk between Gullick and Stevie Chick. Once they warmed up it was a really interesting chat about his career, his approach to portraiture and dealing with musicians/reluctant subjects and how he goes about his work. He darkroom prints all his own work, colour and black and white, it's all beautiful. Really nice, kind of inspiring evening. Had a couple of brief chats with the man himself, an absolute gent.

michaellambert, Friday, 28 June 2013 23:30 (seven years ago) link

that's really nice, Michael. I blank on a lot of contemporary guys, particularly w portrait stuff, but remember him. he did all of that careless talk costs lives stuff, right? was it at GOMA?

tonight:
- sitting by the scanner internally singing "chopping negs" to the tune of poppin tags
- coined sassy photographic religion, see display name. I'm still working through looking at photographs, it's so consistently mind expanding

szarkasm (schlump), Saturday, 29 June 2013 05:38 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, he did CTCL and LLSS, most of the exhibition was work for those magazines and a few others. It was at Static Collective on the Saltmarket, a pop-up gallery that use disused retail units.

https://www.facebook.com/events/452830751474850/

michaellambert, Saturday, 29 June 2013 09:33 (seven years ago) link

got drunk on bourbon and watched william eggleston in the real world last night. seemed appropriate.

chinavision!, Saturday, 29 June 2013 14:17 (seven years ago) link

ha ha. I like the kinda realitytv vibe, just watching eggleston chill in hotel rooms, cruise with his son. I tried to find some of Winston's photography after but couldn't (did anyone ever see any of Emmet Gowin's son's photos. they looked not so hot to me. like sparklehorse album covers). lol at eggleston's drawl being subtitled throughout. the last, kinda mystified conversion between MA & WE is so great. really inspirational. I like that doc about Andy Goldsworthy that's similarly kinda non-expository, like he doesn't know why he's doing stuff or have some grand allusive purpose.

I have one of the other couple of WE docs to watch, soon, I'll report back

szarkasm (schlump), Saturday, 29 June 2013 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Watching the Maier doc on iPlayer, drinking a beer.

michaellambert, Saturday, 29 June 2013 21:30 (seven years ago) link

http://www.altairnouveau.com/A-30.jpg

still going at it with the slide scanning

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 00:13 (seven years ago) link

yes despite the decades they all just read as 'politician' which is sort of comforting for the sake of continutiy

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:17 (seven years ago) link

and universal language

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:17 (seven years ago) link

http://www.altairnouveau.com/A-95.jpg

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:27 (seven years ago) link

I would murder people for a streetscape like that one. new york is all wide roads and cars.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:28 (seven years ago) link

I could live there and never leave the block

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:28 (seven years ago) link

fred herzog on kodachrome,

"Kodachrome was the best film and the most reliable development, but it was far from reliable. I was so frustrated at times I sent film to Palo Alto or to Rochester, just to get them developed right. And of course that entailed an extremely long wait. You’d take the pictures today and they would come back in two weeks or something.”

“But Kodachrome was the best film. I have to thank Kodak for making that product. Without that product, we would not have the pictures. Pictures that were taken on other films have suffered more than Kodachrome. Kodachrome was thought to last 50 years, and it has.””

think you have to take your infrastructural yearning to one of the city threads. I have been looking at more street photography lately (just as a consequence of looking at more photobooks in general, lately; the deserted-through-summer library is really delightful - I have chromes coming, soon) & while explaining to myself why I am not making profoundly interrelating street tableaux of modern day society have just been attributing this to the relatively modest amount of time I spend outdoors anywhere as crowded or populous as New York. not sure where your slides are taken but it goes both ways I think. maybe somewhere smaller you'd be schlepping a tripod around & Robert Adamsing deserted cityscapes.

szarkasm (schlump), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:39 (seven years ago) link

well I think the photo above was taken in Vienna (but let me check the notes)
and, yes, plenty of good photos to be had in nyc (except lately, with gray skies, and much work in the office), but I'm talking from the urban planning perspective.
which, ah, yeah, that's sorta suburbs thread appropriate.

but foreign environments are great. after a while I find myself just setting the camera to a reasonable shutter speed/f stop setting, prefocused to about 10 feet, sometimes 8, or 6, etc., but basically I just end up doing snaps of people I'm walking past. It's not that compelling! the composition is rudimentary, and the subject matter is just kinda, you know, normal stuff.

it's easy to get dull in nyc too. a change in location is always good.
my photos look really flat to me lately.
I want to, like, go to paris or something for two weeks.

$$$

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:59 (seven years ago) link

man, what a rut

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 04:00 (seven years ago) link

I prefer the scan of my uncle's snapshot above to just about anything I've taken in the last few months, pictures of my girlfriend excepted, of course.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 04:01 (seven years ago) link

the red car, the intersecting lines at the top etc.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 04:01 (seven years ago) link

I watched the Maier doc on my phone over the course of two commutes. Amazing. I was inspired enough to switch my 40D to B&W JPEG, ISO 400, and shoot a bunch of things. This lasted about five minutes until I realised I was late for work.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 08:36 (seven years ago) link

but foreign environments are great. after a while I find myself just setting the camera to a reasonable shutter speed/f stop setting, prefocused to about 10 feet, sometimes 8, or 6, etc., but basically I just end up doing snaps of people I'm walking past. It's not that compelling! the composition is rudimentary, and the subject matter is just kinda, you know, normal stuff.

yeah i feel you. it's interesting seeing how photographs change over the tenure of living somewhere, too; partly because you burn out on certain fixtures and styles & partly because you're so fresh at the start. i have some nice pictures of montreal i took from the cab when i moved here, & they're very different in character from what i take now. it's funny, sometimes when i go to new cities i notice that i haven't taken any photos in the first little while, walking around, maybe, & it's like i don't speak the language, or have the same kinda crutches or instincts. but that's a good thing too. i guess i am delineating street stuff as being something p specific & winograndian in its aims, here, though, in which landscape is secondary.

i went to paris awhile ago & have barely touched the film i got back, i'm p psyched to. the vienna slide you posted is nice, & it's kinda tantalising having glimpses of something that would be alluring in its novelty. have to thank you for your slide posts, btw, i started on the kodachromes i have last night. i might try not to talk about them too much because i'm not sure if i'm really at liberty to share them, & i assume just describing the wonders they contain is going to be frustrating in the vein of black and white '70s paperbacks of colour masters, but just: they're pretty beguiling, & there are some areas of just aqueous, soft-focused radiant colour that remind me of stephen gill. really transportive.

szarkasm (schlump), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 20:08 (seven years ago) link

wow I forgot that I wrote that last night! this summer is doing weird things to me.
I'm not as down on my current shooting as all that, but I would love to have the money to afford a trip abroad! and I *am* tired of a lot of the passing-strangers-in-the-streets photos. but I think my recent increased pickiness has been good, and I've been thinking less and less about my photos' online lives and more about what *else* I can do with them.
man, I listened to some great music and had a blast last night, and over the course of the day I've been remembering a few other things I did as well (nothing bad).

I suppose I'm not totally sure if the slides I'm scanning are really really supposed to be for public consumption, but I've been telling myself that's why I'm only putting low res versions on this site only, and then only ones that show landscapes or strangers. no relatives or acquaintances.

and I get the same feeling about initial photographs in a given city as you, schlump. I've learned the reliable patterns too well. but on the other hand I think I've gotten better as a photographer when I really muster the effort. I think that's part of the problem: I know that I've become better, so I don't work as hard. some early successes are the result of me pushing in new and uncomfortable ways.

chinavision!, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 20:55 (seven years ago) link

i started thinking about other stuff to do with photographs, lately. once in awhile i am on somebody's blog & there is for sale their $3 printed & folded one-sheet pamphlet collecting not-necessarily-totally-showstopping b&ws, & it feels kinda appealing, the smallness of uniting & finalising some photographs you took, like the old editions of four of photographs or even records. i feel like maybe there should be some kind of healthy, complaisant counterpart to shooting & editing which even gently tries to engage, some, or to propogate one's photos (i was just reading this rad khaela maricich piece about the lines between art & audience) somewhat. for me at the moment this is just website stuff but i'm sure i could be doing cool inventive things with my photos. printing them onto mugs.

in other photo breezings i am still so into reading szarkowski atm. i'm reading his essay on winogrand from the big book. very curious to see some of the later work realised; sorta almost disgusted by some of the contact sheets excerpted, which i think reflect drives in which he's shooting & winding & shooting & winding non-stop (leaving a third of a million LA-era exposures unseen, apparently), but some of the late stuff is really democratic & interesting. also his grain still just makes me swoon. szark referred to the expressive ugly gray scale of '60s art movies as influential on those guys.

szarkasm (schlump), Thursday, 4 July 2013 18:50 (seven years ago) link

It was the Crystal Palace Overground Festival last weekend; two years ago I was one of the official photographers - stumbling around with my hired lens, trying and failing to find parents to sign waiver forms when I found I'd snapped an unidentified kid in one of my crowd shots, generally making a bad job of it, etc.

This year I noticed a LOT of L-glass around, like our little local-bands-foods'n'craft in the park thing had become a big deal and pros were documenting it in glorious detail. Most interesting to me was the guy with an Auto Graflex 5x7 with Pentac lens (he was also shooting with a 5D2 and a Hasselblad) - gorgeous stuff...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3774/9175102820_cc05a55896_z.jpg

Michael Jones, Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:22 (seven years ago) link

i have chromes from the library; it is just unreal,

http://www.duncanwhyte.com/Images/Layout_Production/Eggleston_Chromes/pages/Eggleston_Chromes_1_Fin_Page_13.jpg

szarkasm (schlump), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:13 (seven years ago) link

grumpy breezing
one time when gawker had one of their general calls for new writers, I semi-drunkenly sent a letter that instead said that they should have a new heavier photography thing going on, and that I'd be into working something like that. I never expected a response (it wasn't convincingly written) and didn't get one, but man, within a few months (maybe a little longer I guess) they unveiled that dodge and burn page, and let me tell you, it suuuuuucks.
if you like boring pictures of things that ought to be interesting it's cool though I guess. ymmv I guess but I don't get it.

chinavision!, Thursday, 25 July 2013 13:34 (seven years ago) link

I guess

chinavision!, Thursday, 25 July 2013 13:34 (seven years ago) link

do any of you like hedi slimane's stuff? http://hedislimane.com

markers, Thursday, 25 July 2013 23:55 (seven years ago) link

i'm not a photogapher; i'm into it

markers, Thursday, 25 July 2013 23:56 (seven years ago) link

also, if you know of anyone else who does shit sorta like his, i'd be interested in checking it out!

markers, Friday, 26 July 2013 00:05 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

i feel not very interested in focus anymore. even focusing my eyes.

szarkasm (schlump), Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:01 (six years ago) link

http://ruinista.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/blurry-street-1.jpg?w=720&h=480
(hong-an tran)

szarkasm (schlump), Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:02 (six years ago) link

huh. lots of nice photos there.

home along, drinking nothing but vermouth (blanc) and scanning. catching up on summer. the weather has cooled down, I'm getting a breeze in the place, and am in a techno zone at the moment.

my girlfriend just texted me with a vague fuzzy picture to prove that antony from antony and the johnsons is at the restaurant she's at.

this is breezing.

chinavision!, Saturday, 14 September 2013 00:34 (six years ago) link

she is good I think. she came up before somewhere? I think maybe Michael knows her a lil. she does a lot of things I generally think of myself as immune to nicely. peaceful modern landscapes. shallow focus restaurant-table photos that make me think about qualities of lens glass.

I am scanning spring too. may second right now. I just finished the first roll cluttered with pictures of the sky. I was kinda bummed out last week & walking along this one long road in Montreal with an uncluttered horizon & watching the gradient slowly change, I feel like photographing the sky is simultaneously totally useless, & impotent, & then also kinda beautiful, to be moved to just sloppily document something so blunt & obvious & huge, in spite of its bluntness, obviousness, hugeness. I know my spring photos are just going to be pictures of the sky & flowers. like that Emmet Gowin interview where he talks about some photographer he liked who thought his late work of skies was his best stuff. I like ageing into unavoidable cliche.

hey btw, have you ever seen any Nathaniel Dorsky films, China? ccing dayo here, some are playing at NYFF & they are precious photographic research ime, like he owns his own wavelength.

@twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Saturday, 14 September 2013 00:54 (six years ago) link

not aware of dorsky, but looking up now. looks like he got a really nice NYT writeup.
could it be steichen who's sky photographs we're thinking of?

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/49.55.29

they're some of my favorites, although I don't think they come of as well online. in a book or on a wall though they are really great. I've got a big stieglitz book in which that series (equivalents) is printed pretty small on the page, and pretty low contrast.

http://sandrakontos.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/alfred-stieglitz-equivalents/

chinavision!, Saturday, 14 September 2013 01:20 (six years ago) link

whose not "who's"

chinavision!, Saturday, 14 September 2013 01:20 (six years ago) link

i like that the encouraged background music is shoegaze

, Sunday, 17 April 2016 14:47 (four years ago) link

Thought-provoking. I've been working on some family photos, all taken by the no-longer-living. There are certain related, if less super-thorny, questions about privacy and how people choose to define and represent their own lives. Right now I'm dealing with a (woefully incomplete) binder of negatives my mother compiled in the 1970s, before I was born. Did most of these never get printed because they were crummy exposures, because she didn't like them, or because they just didn't have time to futz around with the darkroom stuff after my brother got born?

There's also an amazing letter, in a different box, where she describes to her sister her first, partially botched, experience with loading film onto a reel, with her and my dad seated on the edge of the tub in a blacked-out bathroom, with the closed toilet for a shelf. Just like my first reels thirty years later, she ended up with some frames touching each other, big blobby undeveloped areas. My delight in recognizing this moment as a crummy little stressful incident that my mother and I both experienced in our respective youths is commingled with my wanting the negatives to all be just fine and perfectly preserved. Nothing so heavy as what this article is dealing with, but interesting to think about. Meanwhile I just wish I knew what had become of all my grandmother's slides...

sisterhood of the baggering vance (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:12 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK19vsJCMBM

, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 12:46 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/nGS20jQ.jpg

need 2 cop

, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 11:47 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://shihlun.tumblr.com/post/146626203984/hsieh-chun-te-1968-69

, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 13:01 (four years ago) link

wd love to see-
http://imaonline.jp/exhibition/sentimental-journey-the-complete-contactsheets.html

schlump, Friday, 8 July 2016 04:41 (four years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/09/04/magazine/where-have-you-gone-robert-frank.html?pagewanted=all

this '90s frank profe rly on a part w/ beloved leiter interviews in chronicling Peak Grouch
so juicy

schlump, Saturday, 9 July 2016 21:35 (four years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BIF0P00jGfA/

, Thursday, 21 July 2016 11:39 (four years ago) link

feel like maybe the photo editor who commissioned martin parr to photograph trump voters shd be executed

schlump, Thursday, 21 July 2016 22:42 (four years ago) link

I really love looking at photog's contact sheets. It's like hearing the demos of songs or something; reminds me too that not every shot's a keeper for them either. (Except Capa, the bastard — his sheets are like hit, hit, hit, hit, alternate take, hit)

https://shop.magnumphotos.com/collections/contact-sheet-prints

stet, Friday, 29 July 2016 15:20 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Beautiful!

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 03:21 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/15/apple-hardbound-photo-book/

lol

, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 13:02 (three years ago) link

three months pass...
one year passes...

Shot a roll last night before I realized my exposure compensation dial was at -3

calstars, Saturday, 17 November 2018 12:33 (one year ago) link

D:

the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 17 November 2018 14:36 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

“Rain is like a cheat code for photography”

calstars, Saturday, 14 December 2019 13:19 (seven months ago) link

rain is 50,000 dollars worth of free special effects

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 16 December 2019 22:49 (seven months ago) link


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