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― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link
tyler where was this?!
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link
you should post that stuff to tumblr or facebook so it's easier for me to repost it and get all kinds of cool points.
― dan selzer, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link
haha, it's on richard's facebook page - he says "This has been one of the posters I have used in the past. Still valid, I teach Guitar and Music theory without recourse to music notation clefs or any reading, which does not suit Guitarists. My student learn to view the Guitar from a new perspective that can completely change the way you look at music itself. PM if interested, --Richard Lloyd."https://www.facebook.com/richard.lloyd1
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link
tbh i'm sort of interested! i wonder what his rates are.
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
the text reminds me of those Dr. Bronner's soap labels.
― nerve_pylon, Friday, 28 June 2013 04:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah! i was thinking it seemed kinda turn of the 20th century. i am fascinated by this sort of thing -- i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link
I thought about that once years ago. It was intimidating though. I actually asked Bob Bannister if he'd be interesting in giving lessons but he passed.
― dan selzer, Friday, 28 June 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link
i have a guitarist friend who has some theory of the guitar via mandalas that i definitely do not understand, but sort of like hearing about.
His name's not Robbie Basho is it?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 28 June 2013 09:11 (ten years ago) link
ha, i actually asked him about basho and he said "who?"
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
Man, would actually be interested in hearing Richard lay this all out. Where does he teach?
― grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
he's in nyc afaik, i think he's said he does skype lessons though.
― tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
Think skype lesson would be a little too crazy for me, but will keep that NYC thought in mind when I get up there. I just bet that it is pretty fun and wild hearing him talk about what he does and getting to ask him questions.
― grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNmEq-cP9Oo
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSifKZ80H4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjWFqz1Sjps
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
Hah, thanks man. A window into the experience.
― grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
My buddy Alex took lessons with him for a couple of years here (NYC). I think he was p affordable.
He was living in mpls-stpl last I heard though?
― Thelema & Louise (Jon Lewis), Friday, 28 June 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
I think I watched those videos before but all I remember from them is Richard playing while being like "1 2 5 6 4 1 5 3 5 2 1 4 4 4 5 6 3 5 2 1 6" for about ten minutes.
― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 28 June 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
That's about what I remember
― Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 June 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
a friend took a lesson or two from him. apparently he's very touchy about tv questions or requests to learn tv songs.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 29 June 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah i can see how that would be boring for him -- obviously he's deeply into the theory of the guitar... not how you play "see no evil" but how you come up with the riff to "see no evil" yourself.
― tylerw, Saturday, 29 June 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
... or using the guitar to see BEYOND evil
― nerve_pylon, Saturday, 29 June 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
He was advertising for new students pretty recently on Facebook too, not sure if he still is.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 29 June 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
reading the richard hell autobio now finally and man he does not have any use for richard lloyd at all
also: is billy ficca an underrated drummer? he does some pretty crazy stuff on the television albums
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
Seeing ficca live is even more impressive.
― Thelema & Louise (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
he' s not underrated as far as I know
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
what's the deal with the Hell/Lloyd drama?
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 18 July 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
i don't know the source of it but in the book he basically says lloyd only got into television because he was fucking terry ork and then only talks about how whiny lloyd was all the time
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 18 July 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
So he doesn't mention the fact that he was a fucking awesome guitarist who any band would be delighted to have as a member?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 19 July 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
well any band apart from Television
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 19 July 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link
Can easily imagine those two guys not getting along and Tom Verlaine somehow finding a way to make it worse.
― Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 July 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
i probably say this about every 70s Television bootleg, but here's one of my faves. second set is all request! http://ow.ly/ojJKj
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
you do! but they're always great!
― Ottworks SKG (stevie), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 06:26 (ten years ago) link
Television is playing Athens, GA on November 7 and doing all of Marquee Moon. I'd be a dumbass not to attend, right?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link
Whaaaat yes you need to go. It's more like the Tom Verlaine band with ripp replacing Lloyd but they are still amazing. Smith and ripp are the anchors and tv and ficca are the wanderers.
Man I wish I could come down for that. Link?
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
http://www.georgiatheatre.com/
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
Put it this way: There's a 12" single of Tom Verlaine, and on the b-side is a version of "Marquee Moon" performed live in 1987.
Basically, if the band can play, the song plays them.
― Mark G, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
I decided the allure of the spectacle vs. my general everyday apathy about Television wasn't enough to spend $30.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
Well, if you don't get the album..
Then again, I never got "Horses", but I have the 2CD version with a live performance, and saw the "Rockpalast" performance, and enjoyed both live renditions.
― Mark G, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
if i were anywhere on the east coast, i'd go see that show... seems weird that they'll do "marquee moon" right in the middle of the set after decades of it being the closer.
― tylerw, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
Fuck I wanna goooooo
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
no idea, but i'd be a little surprised if they didn't schedule a few more US dates?
― tylerw, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
i just bought my ticket.
― crüt, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
Xpost that's what I'm banking on... Time to go peruse the mm list...
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Tyler, think you maybe even let me know this, but Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band are playing a set "as" Television sometime soon in Philly. That band is getting really good live (well, they already are pretty great, but could be really achieving launch in the next couple of months ...). I bet they are gonna kill those Television songs, though seeing Verlaine in person can't really be replicated.
― grandavis, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
yeah i saw that! i know chris is a television superfan, so i can only imagine he's going to do it right. i think he even has taken lessons from lloyd himself.
― tylerw, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
I imagine they are gonna nail the sound at the very least, but both guitarists seem capable of getting some of the magic right as well. Would certainly go if I lived near Philly!
― grandavis, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
Television is playing Athens, GA on November 7 and doing all of Marquee Moon.
can't believe I missed this thread revive ... really glad I got tickets before they sold out
― Brad C., Friday, 13 September 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
lol, start holding your breath!http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/revamped-television-have-a-new-album-in-the-can-20130920
― tylerw, Friday, 20 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link