I get the idea that this Pa Kent is supposed to be principled and admirable but kind of a dick and selfishly protective - like humanity itself from Supes' POV. Of course, Snyder/Goyer's way too hamfisted to pull it off so we get a bunch of fragments that don't really add up. Gotta say, iirc you were ok with the movie where Superman would owe child support if the mom knew his government name, so I'm surprised you're this up in arms about it.
― da croupier, Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:00 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
stop pretending we're all 100% okay with everything that happened in superman 2 and that that means something
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
im still not okay with supes turning back time in 1!!!
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
he's talking about Superman Returns, but idk who was defending that
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
not to mention supes' secret "forgetful kiss" power
oh ya. i haven't seen 2 in forever. but ya tho i liked SR at the time i tried to watch it recently and i could not figure out what the hell i was thinking
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah feel free to rip on Man Of Steel as long as you're not defending SR
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
superman turning things back in time annoyed me because it fucked with the mood of the film. I love how Supes 1 started with its deliberately modest pace for the origin story, sped up considerably with its goofy, comic charm in the middle, and then became unexpectedly intense at the end with Luther's plan. Superman's "yell" when Lois died was primal and real and came from somewhere. Then he gets out of it by doing someting so cheap like going back in time (which is ethically suspect too - why wouldn't he just do that when anybody died tragically) and it completely took me out of the movie.
Still better than this though, but nothing beats Supes II, flawed as it is.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
Has any other film done a variation on turning the Earth in reverse to go backwards in time? I mean it's incredibly idiotic from a logical standpoint but it's also insanely fantastical and it seems like the only time that has ever been in a movie. I have to tip my hat to the lunacy and just go with it!
The closest thing I can think of is in Starcrash where The Emperor of the First Circle of the Universe orders his starship to halt the flow of time. When something like that happens, it's almost like getting a Christmas present out of nowhere.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
'going back in time' is bad enough but doing it by spinning the world the wrong way is something elselol xp
― kinder, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
the turning-back-the-earth thing was patently ridiculous even to 6 yo me. but it hardly ruins the film. and really its not that far off from actual silver age superman shenanigans
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
the secret identity joke was a lot better handled in the Reeve series too as those coke bottles did kind of make his face look wider and different, plus he wore his hair different. Cavill put on his glasses and just looked like the same sexy dude with glasses.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
it seems like the only time that has ever been in a movie
well, would you prefer the "slingshot around the sun"
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
I don't give a fuck about it from a 'lol science' perspective, just a 'man are you kidding me' perspective. especially given that he only did it to save a woman he wanted to sleep with.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
Reeve is also a good enough actor to physically play Clark and Superman very, very differently
yeah even as a kid I loved that
― kinder, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
strangely pa kent's philosophy kind of dovetails with general zod's.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:07 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they should have both been played by kevin costner.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist),
omg get to work photoshopping
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah we discussed upthread how awful it was that Reeves couldn't muster, like, one-tenth of the skill, wit, and charm in other roles.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
btw Lenny Luthor - worst Supes film character ever? Y or Y
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
oh I think Reeves does pretty well in Deathtrap, I think it's called...?
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
just think of bloody Clark Kent in the deserted FOS (lit like an afterhours singles bar) in Supes II shouting FAAAAAATHHHERRR
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
honestly thought cavill was fine in this - sold individual moments of drama and humor well enough that I blame Snyder/Goyer for any failure to coalesce. only actor who didn't seem to be giving it their best was Adams, who admittedly was given some of the worst lines (the dick measuring contest, "i have a pulitizer!") etc.
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
fishburne too was a little clock-in
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
those newsroom scenes seem like they were cobbled together as an imitation of the originals. and why were we supposed to care about that one intern that was stuck and Perry was saving when we got to spend all of two minutes with her?
That half of Fishburne's lines were the same, tired platitudes every other character was given as dialogue didn't help matters.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
yeah in almost all of his other movies (i'll partially except deathtrap and street smart) reeve seems profoundly uncomfortable
i didn't think cavill was bad at all, but the role was kind of incoherent as written
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
i can't except street smart since it's imposssible to buy him outsmarting morgan freeman
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
He does what's required in Street Smart, I guess? Morgan Freeman is legit dangerous, and there's little tension between them.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qxsv5PetQQ4/TgT2sqsEBtI/AAAAAAAAIZQ/ayh7s2z9Bac/s1600/Clark_Kent_All-Star_Superman_003.jpg
Good examples of the differences here http://charactermodel.tumblr.com/post/16213440172/clark-kent-by-frank-quitely-all-star-superman
Probably a bit too subtle for this film, just like Pa Kent "maaaaaaybe". Although at least he was willing to die like a chump for his beliefs, I guess
― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link
i guess i'm alone in that i dug Pa Kent's "maybe..."
but then that kinda went out the window when he died to save the family dog
― Nhex, Friday, 28 June 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link
The dumbass didn't even realise Clark could have done that shit at walking pace and nobody would have been any the wiser
― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Friday, 28 June 2013 08:59 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't work out if he really wanted Clark to hide his powers or was just being all "I'LL take care of this" like a dick
― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Friday, 28 June 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link
NOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
I like that everyone seems to have agreed to blame Nolan/Goyer and basically ignore Snyder's involvement. (As they should.)
― Simon H., Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link
i hoped my expectations had been lowered sufficiently that i'd find something to enjoy but it lost me right at Jor-El, Two-Fisted Scientist of Krypton and somehow managed to go downhill from there.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link
oh wait Dune bit was kinda funny
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link
i'd be ok with the sequel if russell crowe is the only character
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 June 2013 03:59 (ten years ago) link
Though Nolan has stated that he didn't want the film to end the way it did.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 30 June 2013 05:41 (ten years ago) link
Referring to what, exactly?
― Simon H., Sunday, 30 June 2013 05:42 (ten years ago) link
ending was the least of this thing's crimes, and a damn sight better than TDKR
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link
― Frederik B, Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:41 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
where?
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:00 (ten years ago) link
i thought nolan was relatively hands off w/the whole thing, basically picked snyder and backed away
it's still fun to pile on nolan though. in any event, this movie was fine. i'm still waiting for a movie about the rivalry between superman and batman and i hope neither nolan nor snyder have anything to do with it.
― Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the (Treeship), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:10 (ten years ago) link
who would u pick
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:11 (ten years ago) link
woody allen
― Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the (Treeship), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:11 (ten years ago) link
wtf production values aside this movie was worse than green lantern
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:12 (ten years ago) link
GL was worse
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:13 (ten years ago) link
worse than ghost rider?
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:14 (ten years ago) link
this wasn't anywhere near green lantern
― Nhex, Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:14 (ten years ago) link
xp seriously though, i'm not sure. maybe ridley scott. i'm thinking a sort of batman dkr thing, starring an aged, cynical batman late in his career, who has built up resentment against superman over the course of decades.
― Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the (Treeship), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:15 (ten years ago) link
I dunno it looked good but the best part was 5yo Clark running with his red cape.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:15 (ten years ago) link
i liked the art direction/photography in this film. the color scheme and lighting reminded me of alex ross's artwork.
― Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the (Treeship), Sunday, 30 June 2013 06:16 (ten years ago) link