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― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
"Lunchtime at Dangling Boulder"
― nickn, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
i do like LD and usually defend her but she is kind of really embarrassing sometimes.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
i was really into Girls, but in its absence i havent missed it at all, wondered what the characters are gonna do, etc.
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 27 June 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
girl's got taste http://www.criterion.com/explore/199-lena-dunham-s-top-10
― piscesx, Thursday, 27 June 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link
Linked earlier today </Homer Simpson stage whisper>
― nickn, Thursday, 27 June 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link
Love the show, but that list reads lie it was written by an over enthusiastic alt weekly intern
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:02 (ten years ago) link
LD otm re: Fish Tank and Weekend. My favourite British indie movies of recent years and not obvious choices.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link
gay men are my target demo
uhh, the one gay character in her show is a walking homophobic stereotype
― chael, Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:34 (ten years ago) link
xp enh they're a little obvious
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link
As are many real-life twinks in NY!
So I've seen the first 5 episodes of the first season, and I'm in the middle. Some very funny dialogue, but sometimes the characters are too stupid for a quasi-'realistic' comedy, as when Hannah torpedoes her job interview with a date-rape joke. Must be that EDGY millennial humor the VICE alum is around to supply.
Also phrases like "hate-read," stfu. And I would give Adam Driver a tongue bath.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
but by the conventions of a sitcom having characters do somewhat outlandish things like in the job interview scene is not really that unusual.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
wait, is this show a sitcom?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
a sitdramedy
― eau de feet (sic), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
I look forward to LD getting older and maybe writing about older people.
― ryan, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
xxp
hannah = jerrymarnie = elaineshosh = georgejessa = kramer
― sleepingbag, Monday, February 4, 2013 11:48 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
that really doesn't work at all
― undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
• it's a show about nothing
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
I never understood what that means. Seinfeld was a show about the banalities of single adult life in New York City. Kind of like Living Single with white people.
― undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
all the characters are so petty without any level of self-consciousness
ah, twenties.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
i mostly only remember living single as the thing i turned off after martin but i guess that's right xp
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
Hannah = AliceMarnie = MelSosh = VeraJessa = Flo
― only dogg forgives (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
Hannah = that one girl from bushwickMarnie = the other girl from bushwick, with the boyfriendSoshana = the other other girl from bushwickJessica = the brit
― sassy, fun, and RELATABLE (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
also in the first 5 eps I haven't seen ONE really shitty apartment.
Jessa is definitely the most fun, performance/character combowise.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:03 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've never understood this canard.
(it doesn't help that i've disliked seinfeld from day one.)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
I would give Adam Driver a tongue bath.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:33 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
<3 you morbs
― El tres de 乒乓 de 1808 (silby), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
"show about nothing" is just one of those meaningless things that people mindlessly repeat because they think it sounds good
― undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
The show about nothing made no sense to me either. How is it more about nothing than any other sitcom out there? I guess it was the original concept that didn't last but as you said it sounds good as a catchy tagline.
― Evan, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
Greenpoint/Williamsburg still. They may party in Bushwick but they're not living there.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
• hannah in many episodes meets a new man who soon becomes her nemesis/frenemy.... a new man... Newman....
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
lol sleepingbag
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
'show about nothing' was just a joke premise that got repeated cause it was memorable -- larry david has said a bunch of times that the actual premise of seinfeld was 'where a comedian gets his ideas.'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
• jessa eats pretzels, gets thirsty
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
I seriously will just come home and make a seinfeld joke on a girls thread on the internet in 2013 apparently
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link
Seinfeld came out at a time when sitcoms were still aggressively premise-y -- most shows were about some offbeat workplace, or a family with an inordinately large number of children, or a wacky fish out of water guy from another country/space, etc. "a group of friends getting into awkward social situations" became a default template mostly after Seinfeld, and mostly because of Seinfeld.
― some dude, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link
some feld
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
some1 should do a the league vs girls thread maybe in like 15 years or so idk
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
it just seemed to me like the unspoken premise of Seinfeld was "four single adults living a slightly juvenile/arrested life in Manhattan" -- I guess I see why that was a different kind of premise from most shows, but I don't think it's not a premise. TBF, Living Single had "single" in the title, so it was always right there in your face -- these women are STILL NOT MARRIED (!!!). Whereas Seinfeld was about these neurotic friends who seem a little old to still be hanging out with each other all the time in this collegey sort of way, but the show just kind of accepts that and never makes a thing out of it.
― undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
cf. "all human lives are pointless, technically."
― Treeship, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
sorry
I think you mean "pointless"
― undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
i think it makes more sense in the context of how the phrase turned up in the show, as how they pitched a show to NBC. the average viewer doesn't necessarily think about the premise of a show once they get to like the characters and just wanna see what they're up to every week. but in 1980s network pitch meetings, it was probably a lot easier to sell "i become somebody's butler" than "i want to take the observational humor in my standup and apply to actual daily social situations."
― some dude, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
when you think about what sitcoms were like in the 80s (and hell, what they were mostly like in the 90s) it's almost unbelievable that seinfeld managed to slip on to the air at all, let alone become a bigger and bigger hit the more un-sitcom-like and surreal it became.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link
living single was very very much about the romantic travails of those girls
― balls, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link
also at the time (and to an extent still, you'll see some shows attempt this and you know they're thinking 'maybe we can approach seinfeld') plots along the lines of 'they wait for a table at a chinese restaurant', 'they try to remember where they parked', and 'they get stuck in traffic after a baseball game' were fairly radical. combine that w/ characters that weren't designed to be likeable, that actually reveled in how petty and unlikeable they could be, and then add 'no hugs, no lessons' and you're talking a pretty big break w/ anything that had been on tv before, neverminded succeeded.
― balls, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
there's a good documentary on the first/second season dvd where jerry seinfeld and larry david talk about how furious the network was when they presented them with the chinese restaurant episode. one of the execs talks about how they half-seriously thought the clowns behind this none-too-popular new show were playing a prank on them by giving them an episode with no plot.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
i've been thinking abt this lately, and wondering just how many sitcoms before then were not essentially set in a family home, a proxy family, or the workplace (or a combo of those, like MTM's apt/job).
the seinfeld group seems kind of set in a sweet spot pretty far away from 'proxy family' / 'workplace'
― j., Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link
the only one that jumps to mind is 'the abbott and costello show' (which jerry has cited as a model for seinfeld).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
i guess there's 'gilligan's island' too.
neurotic friends who seem a little old to still be hanging out with each other all the time = yes, secretly a show about stand-ups
and now, back to Girls
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link