Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band's "Trout Mask Replica"

All I have is the late 80s CD. I'm tempted, but I'd love a preview of a few tracks first.

I've got it, it sounds basically the same as the original Straight/Bizarre lp pressings

lol opinions

I just heard the Faces' version of "Wicked Messenger" off their first album (in fact, off the "Good boys when they're asleep" comp)

And yeah, it's a Bob Dylan song, but whoo it's very like "Orange Claw Hammer"

lol

BUT TRUE!

Thank you.

If someone put TMR as their favorite album on their okcupid profile would you judge them? Someone had a perfectly serviceable profile but he had this at the top of their list and no matter what else we'd have in common I don't think we could hang. Is there another album that dog whistles "I care deeply about 'music'" more than this idk

you may be entering narcissism of small differences territory w/ yr canine hearing

when someone puts TMR at the top of their list they are very consciously trying to present themselves as a "music person," it's not an accident

What if they really, genuinely like it. Is that possible? Are you saying that all of your friends must share the same likes and dislikes as you? What are you saying?

I must know.

MUST.

haha, i remember the time a friend of a friend came round, pulled tmr off the shelf and exclaimed 'wow, what you doing with this? you must really know your music'.

xxxxp

if that's true, then you are both ppl who actually are invested in music taste/personal canons to a rare degree, albeit w/ ideological differences. he might be equally unthrilled w/ yr taste, mb you see it as dodging a bullet there, but you might be projecting yr own disdain & blaming him for it, who knows, it seems v trivial is all

I don't think there's much to say about the symbolic value of tmr ~in general~, but then using music in a dating profile like that seems v quaint, mb even to the extent of having gone full circle and become charming, but judging other ppl for their tastes to this extent def seems regressive

what's their myspace profile song?

listing yr cultural credentials in OKC feels pretty ropey in general

well, jeez, what are you "supposed" to list on OKC? as far as i could ever figure out online dating is a massive exercise in dart-throwing.

dunno, i've never had a relationship with somebody's record collection

and yet posting one's penis size is inexplicably frowned upon

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/Twelveinchesofsnow.jpg

what does a high hat beaver moustache man look like? is it a fur hat? if not, is it a beaverish moustache?

Moustache, I would assume.

it's a thrillingly vague image!

He is (sort of) making up as he goes along too.

was he seeing his own reflection at the time?

then who's the pirate friend?

maybe he's catching two different glimpses of himself, or twizzling a spoon

Frank Zappa (xp)

tbh this is possibly my least favorite Beefheart album (granted I've never listened to the Tragic Band stuff)

amend that - I guess it's better than Lick My Decals Off, Baby.

Perfectly understandable.

TMR is definitely the album I listened to the most times without enjoying while trying to get into it

cosign, except substitute Pet Sounds for Trout Mask Replica.

I know Bill Harkleroad has said he doesn't like the guitar sound, that they were just using some cheap amp, but I've always loved this album sonically, the sound of the four of them playing.

"It's a bush recording. We're out recording a bush."

Did he say that? I remember him saying, when they recorded "Moonlight On Vermont", which was the first thing he recorded with the band and was before the whole TMR saga, that Zappa turned all the knobs on the guitar amp way up and the sound was deafening.

This album rules how can you not love it on first listen?

how is it not enjoyable? It’s so much fun

“where’s the drop”

decals is better tho

Yeah, he said that when they were rehearsing in the house, they were all plugging in to one amp and then when they recorded, it was some solid state amp that he didn't like.

Ah, that's right, a solid state amp, I remember him talking about that.

don't get me wrong I like TMR fine, but I like some of his other records a whole lot more. I think its drawbacks include some of the failings typical of double albums - its overstuffed, with some lesser material mixed in (dumb sex jokes etc.) I don't really love that super-clean solid-state guitar sound. Everything is so clean and dry and close-mic'd that it often feels a bit claustrophobic. Beefheart's horn playing is bad.

If I had to chop it down to just stuff I love it would include all of side 1 (with the exception of Hair Pie - delete both of those actually), China Pig, My Human Gets Me Blues, When Big Joan Sets Up, and Sugar an' Spikes.

as a lil baby listening to TMR for the first time it was not fun bc I had no experience of jazz or blues or cross-rhythms or sense of really any of what they were up to so it sounded like an oppressive mess

I don't remember the first time I heard it tbh

it was definitely the first Beefheart album I was aware of though

"Doc at the Radar Station" was my first Beefheart, borrowed it out of the local library. I owe my first hearing of "Trout Mask Replica", to Phil, the singer out of the Stretchheads(!), he gave me a cassette of his dad's copy - I should point out his stint in the Stretchheads lay some years in the future!

I hated my first encounter with it because I was only into emo shit with heartbreaking melodies at the time.

maybe it's time to finally get into this album. i should probably spraypaint my windows black and crank up the heat if i want the full effect, though.