what is actually worse than queensryche?

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oh man

about 20 seconds into my research experiment on liquid tension experiment, i ran into this line on allmusic.com's review of their first album:

This is the second of Magna Carta's one-time-only groupings and the second to feature bassist Tony Levin. Fortunately for all concerned, it's light years beyond Black Light Syndrome, which paired Levin with guitarist Steve Stevens and drummer Terry Bozzio in an ill-conceived and poorly executed set of improvisations.

looks like i'm going to be listening to some black light syndrome in a second

Bozzio Levin Stevens
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Black Light Syndrome

i can't find any live footage, but i did find these guys doing a cover of the intro to "the sun road":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAYfXeVNyR0

xxxxx zzzzzzz 3 years ago
howmuch did you guys smoked before this ?:)

and here's the real deal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlPJ1wJiV5o

Wonder what Fripp would think of this song.

We could probably do a whole thread on what I would call Guitar Clinic Bands -- those supergroups made up of mostly personality-less musician's musicians that always play at Zildjian events and the like, who make technically impeccable music that should ostensibly be at least interesting and yet is completely boring.

there's just like no attempt to give the band any cohesive vibe beyond "we are musicians"

^^^i am very familiar with these bands from high school and have deep prog shame

i thought we might already have a thread on it, but i guess i'm just thinking of this one: Let's figure out Dream Theater.

jeezus, i forgot about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BKmnlvO47E

that's worse than queensryche

of course, going back to the original post, which begins with "No cartoony dream theater examples in this thread. I am serious."

i am sorry jjjusten, i don't know what happened back there!

amazed at the finglonger that LTEs bass player uses

I notice no one is disputing Wookiefoot

don't spook the wookie

"Spook the Wookie" sounds like itshould be an early draft of "Shock the Monkey"

xpost Tony Levin and Terry Bozzio, awesome in the right context, couldn't possibly be any less personality-less! That's often the biggest problem with bands like these.

I don't have anything to add to this conversation except a) I am all for it and b) I'd like to encourage everyone to adopt Scott Ian pronounciation of Geoff Tate: JEE-OFF TAH-TAY

Geoff Tah-Tahs.

Tony Levin and Terry Bozzio, awesome in the right context, couldn't possibly be any less personality-less!

OTM.

Also, I feel like I should object to calling this stuff prog except that I never actually took the time to listen to LTE or BLS.

Also also, vocals on Mindcrime are still dazzling.

are you saying you don't believe in mindcrime jjj??

There's a job for jjj in the system.

have been friends with a guy for about 10 years and just last year found out he had a mindcrime tattoo on the back of his neck

he was kind of mad at me for laughing :/ but it was funny!

Tateheads are scary

Ha, I didn't know that Tateheads were a thing.

ask and ye shall find, via the comments section:

http://eddietrunk.com/the-todd-la-torre-fronted-queensryche-post-new-song-fallout-online/

though they are really akin to the one guy who goes to concerts and yells unintelligibly that everyone else points and laughs at

Isn't that mostly just a bunch of people saying "this sucks"?

xpost

Yeah, I was referring to the guy whose comment was at the top! Sorry that I didn't specify, lol.

I really hope that is Ripper Owens that posted that

Posted by an old college friend on FB last week after a Columbus, OH show:

So, about the Queensryche show.... yes, it was Geoff "& some other guys," but those other guys kicked some serious ass (how can they not when one of those other guys is Rudy?) They did bring down the key one or two steps on pretty much everything, and there were many times Geoff decided to take the lower register instead of the high notes... but he did still hit the high notes when he chose to. To be fair, he usually made the correct choice.... he NEVER sounded bad...

Could we perhaps call it Exhibition Rock?

gasface rock

Haha, his synopsis is "Geoff can sing all those notes, he just doesn't want to. Greatness should be exhibited in doses."

I think I can refute Geoff still sounding great with any number of Youtube videos. I can't tell if it's because of his years of smoking, or the fact that he pretty much hates his musical legacy at this point.

yknow he could just stop

Great thread.

I probably haven't even thought of Queensryche in over 10 years, but I'm amused by the idea that it is now "Geoff and some other guys" wherein Geoff completely blows.

The thing is, I don't think Queensryche is actually that similar to the other bands we're talking about. Except for the 10-min "Suite Sister Mary", which I always skip, there is only one song on Mindcrime that is over 6m. There are five tracks that are less than 2m. It's only proggy in the Wall sense of being a narrative-based rock opera with high-budget production. (I barely pay attention to the narrative.) The songs are mostly pretty straightforward and traditional in structure. In fact, the band was largely there to support Tate, which is very different from what Dream Theater do, let alone these instrumental exhibition bands.

makes them sound like they play at county fairs, or auto shows

you know what, I want to watch jjjusten choose between Queensryche and Stryper

Attila.

attila would be terrible if anybody actually _liked_ them

nothing is worse than Queensryche

queensryche sounds like the pokemon theme song

Vice versa, surely?

I.......like Queensryche

I do too. Im seein em in two days!

"nothing is worse than Queensryche"

nonsense. Dream Theater is far far worse (I don't know why the first post says they're not allowed).

y'all should go see them with Fates Warning if they come by your town. top notch musicianship.

hell it was even louder than I expected for a RYCHE Show ffs lol

i should do no such thing

dude i hung out with in high school was the biggest Ryche fan i knew, even had his parents get him a customized plate: i believe it was RYCHE8

EMPIRE still slays

There's a million bands worse than Queensryche but there's few bands who ever topped their early 80s look for sheer "why would any band want to look like that" factor.

iirc Geoff Tate had to wear his hair "that way" permanently because it was a temporary bird sanctuary.

Tate has three daughters: Sabra, Bella, and Emily, along with one stepdaughter, Miranda. Tate was never married to Sabra's mother. In 2011, Miranda gave Geoff his first grandchild, giving birth to Riot Danger.[citation needed]