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i think china said something when somebody posted a nice & colourful picture of a girl with red-dyed hair, a while ago, about a certain clear, rich, egglestonian/sothian aesthetic being a norm at the moment, which is true. i like this though. the blur is very poetic, tactile. i think with photography i oscillate between it is all about sunlight & it is not all about sunlight.

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

aka malick's wager

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

any good stuff on Lens lately? have skipped over about a month's worth of posts : \

乒乓, Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link

wow the jody rogac stuff you posted is pretty beautiful, schlump. I love the first one especially.
catching up now on this thread. ha glad you like the photo of that wall! and I think that the comment I made was probably mostly about the soth-y respectable documentarian, medium format, low contrast, sober style that many people seem to shoot for currently. a lot of it looks like delicate portraiture I think. and it's very technically finessed. I don't necessarily think it's *bad* but it's my instinct to recoil from anything that seems to have become so codified as the current mode that signals *seriousness*.

chinavision!, Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link

i am sort of overwhelmed by color studies rn

乒乓, Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

ha, the first JR shot is totally in your zone, China. incidentally I caught the tumblr shot I posted after hopping around from your IHKH (or flickr, myabe; IHKH rip?); so many arresting shots, lately, really nice. I'm actually p deep into Cwynar's tumblr, which is terrific, right now. there's a lot of way more casual flow of non-studio stuff I'm really enjoying, w/a greater interest in tone & texture,

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3elx5KIds1qan65ho1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAI6WLSGT7Y3ET7ADQ&Expires=1371780398&Signature=SyTyzn3IHqPrhOClGLIdA5dpnvc%3D#_=_

& re: the contemporary aesthetic thing; it was actually this I was talking about, more than the reverent Sothian thing. though I was just thinking about that, too, after admiring one of Rogac's MF shots (from tearsheets), which looks very nice & carries little of the baggage I associate with MF (as can a lot of stuff shot with those cameras, it must have just compared favourably with something else I'd just seen):

http://www.jodyrogac.com/files/gimgs/33_polanski-2.jpg

I've been thinking about that - perhaps chemical? - warm brightness a lot, lately, like the set I posted last week. I just bought a new issue of Apartamento, which has this great set of busy Japanese interiors photographed by Tony Cederteg I'm trying to find a picture of

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

really glad you liked, 乒乓! there's an older "green" that's actually way more in the lilac spectrum, on her tumblr, that's really lovely-

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh75hpfmal1qan65ho1_500.jpg

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

man i used to dream about doing a series of flower photographs but in black and white

乒乓, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link

ha, it's funny: at the moment i will shoot five or six rolls of colour in a row, & then load some B&W for a change, which slows me down a lot cause it's summer & i have a stephen shore book from the library & i'm mainly drawn to flowers. but it always feels interesting approaching flowers in B&W. like you're turning them into stone. i think i have a picture of some blossom i took that i kinda like, somewhere.

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link

as for Lens i think the last few of note all got posted here, though there's a recent (few day old) entry in the same sort of ~haunted b&w reflection-strewn urbanity~ vein, & then a not-necessarily-beautifully-photographed entry on barber shops that is nonetheless clustered w/killer art, cf the tupac painting & outdoor illustrations (slide #18) from Senegal, http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/documenting-west-africa-one-barbershop-at-a-time/

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link

It is hard for me to actually put black and white film in the camera during summer too.
I'm gonna check out the links that have just been posted, but... tomorrow. Walking around today has me beat. Swear I'm loading b&w tomorrow.

chinavision!, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link

http://www.shootingfilm.net/2013/02/woody-allen-poses-with-bunch-of.html

me irl

乒乓, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link

yeah that's a beautiful portrait. you guys have looked through the walker evans archive on the met site, right? it isn't especially easy to navigate but is amazingly comprehensive. a lot of beautiful, frame-by-frame sets of him gallavanting w/the home-improving franks in NS, & a lot of just really nice angles to WE i didn't know about. cf his drawing,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH2Gxo-CMAArds9.jpg

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Y5mykoL.png

i almost want to bawl

乒乓, Monday, 24 June 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/art-of-inner-turmoil/

乒乓, Monday, 24 June 2013 11:25 (ten years ago) link

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/05/memories-of-a-boys-life-reconstructed/

4x5 serious photography to make cv's eyes roll

乒乓, Monday, 24 June 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link

hey, you know that eggleston's paris book is filled with drawings of his... they're great!

chinavision!, Monday, 24 June 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link

i just watched william eggleston in the real world, which i'd somehow never seen before (fwiw: it's free on archive.org, but as an advisory is a shitty thing to watch while you are scanning, creating unflattering desktop diptychs consisting of your own photos & his), & there's a nice scene of him drawing. i like his pictures a lot. this book cover is dope,

http://artobserved.com/artimages/2009/09/william-eggelston-sorry-we-are-not-sorry.jpg

one of my abandoned blog ideas is photographers' drawings. cf walker evans, saul leiter,

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V83SR2YI7mo/Tx3UoGeX0LI/AAAAAAAAHEk/bdKvrSDsz2M/s640/tlc_saul_leiter_04_cover_front.jpg

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

robert herman photos are rad, also a poignant reminder not to give your pictures shitty titles

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 24 June 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

beautiful egglestons i'd never seen before, here, perhaps just not having spent time with any of the more recent anthologies,

http://www.edwardcella.com/publish/worksimages/WE042web_LG.jpg

http://www.edwardcella.com/publish/worksimages/WE026ewb_LG.jpg

szarkasm (schlump), Sunday, 30 June 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

'Dear Bill': photographers, curators and fans ask questions of William Eggleston...

Simon Baker, curator of photography, Tate Modern: What was the first photograph that was important to you (by you or anyone else), and why?

A picture I took of some prisoners at the state penitentiary. I'm guessing I was about 20 at the time.

Brett Rogers, director, The Photographers' Gallery: When we recently showed an Eggleston image at the Gallery, we wrote on the accompanying caption that you photograph scenes of everyday life with a 'snapshot style'. When Nan Goldin visited in January, she took exception to this, saying yours was definitely not a 'snapshot' approach. What is your view on this description of your approach?

Thank you, Nan.

Nan Goldin, photographer, New York: Remember our times in Paris? Are you still gonna marry me?

Yes, no question about it.

Michael Glover, art critic, The Independent: You seem to have both loved and loathed the American landscape. How much pain has the holding of such contradictory impulses caused you?

I don't remember loathing any of it.

Chris Dercon, director, Tate Modern: As we are about to show some of your beautiful dye-transfer prints at Tate Modern, I have been wondering how you decide on the size of the prints you make.

I have currently settled on two sizes: smaller dye transfers and large-format pigment prints.

Alice Jones, deputy arts editor, The Independent: What do you think of Instagram?

I don't know what they are.

Martin Parr, photographer, Bristol: What is the difference between your current shooting and that of the 1970s?

The subject-matter is different.

Jason Evans, photographer, Brighton: What's the difference between a photographer who makes art, and an artist who makes photographs?

Not sure there is any difference.

Nina Berman, photographer, New York: Is there a place you've never been that you would like to photograph?

I can't think offhand of any particular place.

Penny Martin, curator and editor-in-chief, The Gentlewoman: What building would you like to blow up?

I'm not in that business.

Alec Soth, photographer, Minneapolis: A few years ago Robert Frank said, "There are too many images, too many cameras now. We're all being watched. It gets sillier and sillier. As if all action is meaningful. Nothing is really all that special. It's just life. If all moments are recorded, then nothing is beautiful and maybe photography isn't an art any more. Maybe it never was." What do you think about this?

I don't disagree with any part of that statement.

Alice Hawkins, photographer, Essex: I know you were interested in Elvis, but have you met your fellow Tennessean Dolly Parton? Would you like to take her picture?

No comment.

Bobby Gillespie, singer, Primal Scream, London: Did you really give the 12-year-old Alex Chilton [the late singer with Big Star] LSD/acid at a party in Memphis in the 1960s?

No.

Nick Hall, picture editor, The Independent Magazine: What's your favourite colour?

It used be green when I was young. Now I don't have a favourite.

Michael Benson, curator, Candlestar, London: Novelist Donna Tartt claims to recognise "a sparkle of menace" in your most powerful photographs. Do you agree?

No.

Polly Borland, photographer, London: What are your feelings about death?

I haven't been there yet.

Adam Broomberg and Oliver Chanarin, photographers, London: You are on a train from Memphis to Manhattan. It's a 1,102-mile journey and the train is travelling at 80mph. What is the train-driver's name?

I call him "someone I think I trust".

Philip Hensher, novelist and art critic: What should a photographer do with symmetry?

I have no idea.

Lewis Blackwell, creative director, Getty Images, London: Did Garry Winogrand really say to you, "Bill, you can take a good picture of anything"?

Yes.

Peter Dench, photographer, London: Do you fancy a pint; my round?

Why not, of course it depends on what it's a pint of…

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 1 July 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

don't mean to be a spoilsport but i believe it's prononuced 'shar-kowski'

works great as a sight rhyme though!

乒乓, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

I posted those bill eggleston q&a's on facebook a while back because I LOVE THEM.

chinavision!, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link

of course at the time I hadn't watch William Eggleston in the Real World, so now I get to revisit and imagine a mumble accompanied by subtitles

chinavision!, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link

who the hell asks W.E. what he thinks of instagram??

chinavision!, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

ha i know. every arts editor question is topical & terrible. it's kinda hard to label these wasted given how satisfying the answers they elicited were but given how interesting eggleston seems it's a bummer that nothing else could be coaxed from him.

sitting here reading artforum (i want an artforum subscription? does anybody have a photography magazine subscription? i almost didn't realise there were photography magazines until seeing aperture stuff online, recently) & feeling this late-winogrand shot from the new exhibition,

http://mobiletest.moma.org/collection_images/resized/023/w1024h1024/CRI_234023.jpg

(there is also a short saul leiter portfolio with a couple very nice, sorta atypical ie-non-shallow-focus-colour shots)

ty for the new-religion-spoiling correction, 乒乓; it sounds even tougher pronounced sharkism.

szarkasm (schlump), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

I've never read Artforum but do subscribe to the British Journal of Photography, which I enjoy.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

that photo is on the cover of a sorta decent book of essays by todd papageorge. it's not bad. I think it's through aperture too.
I have no photography magazine subscription. dunno if I need one with the current combo of reading some pretty good online stuff, and supplementing with a trip to the bookstore every once in awhile. my gf gets artforum though, so that's kinda fun.
I considered subscribing to blind spot until I realized that it was only twice a year and easy to pick up on a newsstand. and that I'd want to skip some issues.
looks like aperture is probably the same kinda deal, though 4 times a year.

chinavision!, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link

I like to flick through the BJoP in WHSmith.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link

McCullin is on BBC1 right now. Some pretty incredible situations he covered.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link

McCullin doc was heavy, how he managed to decompress from those places and return to a more stable environment is beyond me, so many hellish scenarios that were truly heartbreaking.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 08:39 (ten years ago) link

Very heavy. Glad I watched it though.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

That was really extraordinary. The quality and seriousness of work published in the Sunday Times Magazine in Harold Evans' time was amazing. You do wonder what would've happened if McCullin had gone to the Falklands and the Times had run his brand of work.

Michael Jones, Friday, 5 July 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

getting lost in Japanese photobook websites;
http://books.google.ca/books?id=sX8iKHvr-v4C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

if I bought these things I would be buying a lot of Vacuum Press books

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 8 July 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

love the look at this. one of a few really good japanese photo book sites, also,

http://www.soft-focus.org/2013/05/entropix.html

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 8 July 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

http://internethistory.tumblr.com/image/54943098063

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link

wow

szarkasm (schlump), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link

yeah i'm in awe

乒乓, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link

most every other recent shot on IH is good too, fwiw. but yeah wow.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/bee4db184e670b5229c7857e3d5e9623/tumblr_mpbsdg8Pgx1qzywvpo1_1280.png

szarkasm (schlump), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link

http://internethistory.tumblr.com/image/55022407955

*throws away my camera*

乒乓, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

that blog is so awesome. it only falters when some of the pics get a little too BH ideas

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 10 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link


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