Haven't seen it, don't want to see it, but would see it if Shannon played Zod like his maniac cop in "Premium Rush."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF3IMm-XrZY&t=0m40s
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link
i liked this a lot more than i expected to!
― the late great, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
not nearly as bad as this thread made me think it would be
-- There's little dramatic tension and the scenes aren't building towards anything for most of the movie. David Goyer's screenplay lacks good dialogue hooks to take the audience from scene to scene, those hooks suggest to an audience what the upcoming scene will be so when the movie cuts to an establishing shot or to a later event there isn't a scramble in the minds of the audience to place what they're seeing, because it's already been suggested subtly. You don't notice how seamless the scenes in most movies are until you see something disjointed like this. Man of Steel reminded me of Playstation games that let you view all the cutscenes from the game after you've beaten it -- stringing CGI scenes together to give you an incomplete movie.
― Cunga, Monday, June 17, 2013 10:39 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is OTM. all of the story beats felt totally mangled.
― slam dunk, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 07:44 (ten years ago) link
Man, this was awful. Ear-bleedingly loud and eye-bleedingly ugly. Probably didn't help that we arrived a bit late to our screening and had to sit in the front row, which made this already mercilessly chaotic movie one of the most unpleasant theatrical experiences I've ever had.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
Terence Stamp has thoughts
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
Just saw Man Of Steel and enjoyed it for the most part. Noticed quite a few borrowings from elsewhere but still found it pretty good. I'm assuming this is supposed to be the first of a series? Didn't enjoy the teenagers I was sitting next to talking through large chunks of the film then trying to read a mobile phone with a great shining light a couple of seats down from me.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
the viewing experience of Man of Steel summed up in a gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/c7a4c3cc004becf6da773231b0dfd902/tumblr_mona0gYSaV1s96p3io1_500.gif
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
a few articles I enjoyed:
What Man of Steel Gets Wrong
Man of Steel Destruction Analysis
Lol - "WTC puts the body count at 129,000, with over 250,000 missing and nearly a million injured."
This is the fucking problem. Superman didn't even attempt to avert the destruction, just carelessly bowling into buildings like a kid bumps into walls when he's learning to walk. In Superman II, Supes found a way to take the battle into space to avert further destruction to the city or civilian death.
Granted, this Zod has different motives, but you'd think given that Superman has something that Zod needs to fulfill his 'mission', don't you think maybe an ATTEMPT to possibly take the fight out of the city and quit knocking over fucking buildings MAY HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA?
For fuck's sake, less than 3k people died on 9/11, and out of that tragedy we got the TSA, Patriot Act, and a whole slew of changes to our common way of life. If 120,000 Americans died? Well, fairly sure people wouldn't just go on living and whistling Dixie like they did in the end sequence of the film. Metropolis would basically be living under martial law for eons!
Ugh, I fear I've thought way too much about this stupid plot. They should have named this film "Clark Cries".
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
all the above is more interestingly explored in miracleman/hobbyhorse
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
i really liked the hans zimmer score
― the late great, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
From the Walter Chaw review already linked above:
Charted on a graph, the rises and falls in action in Man of Steel would look like a mouthful of jagged teeth.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
The decibel level on Krypton was pretty deafening. Wonder how bad it was elsewhere in the cinema, but at th eback where I was sitting the sound really boomed.
Somebody started a thread on boards.ie about poor sound in th escreening in th ecinema I saw it in. Sounded pretty clear this afternoon but volume was overly massive.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
― the late great, Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:23 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, I liked it more than expected. but the wanton destruction stuff was too much to just write off. it was pretty gross.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
http://lawandthemultiverse.com/2013/06/18/man-of-steel/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link
http://lawandthemultiverse.com/2010/12/17/supervillains-and-insurance-whos-gonna-pay-for-that/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:06 (ten years ago) link
OK what i wanna know is whether they could fly on krypton or not
― the late great, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
why would they
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link
they rode around on dinosaurs and jabba the hut and shit
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link
well i'm surprised to learn zod and his dudes picked it up so quickly
― the late great, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
at times Shannon's Zod reminded me too much of his Nelson Van Alden character when he killed his partner via extreme baptism at the end of Season 1.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
it's true, this was a pretty shouty movie.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 June 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
climactic battle should have just been a series of ricocheting close ups
I AM ZOD! ARRRRRRRRRR
I AM SUPERMAN! ARRRRRRRRRRR
ARRRRRRRRR
ARRR--
AR--
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 20 June 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
final three shots
1: CU of ZOD. his eyes close, his head slumps.
2. CU of SUPERMAN. SUPERMAN: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
3. CU of Lois Lane, looking sympathetic
END
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 20 June 2013 11:48 (ten years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/Damage_Control_1.png/250px-Damage_Control_1.png
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 June 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
hope that wasn't sarcastic
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
While Rob Bricken is how you say uneven as a writer, I do appreciate his film summaries:
http://io9.com/the-most-important-scenes-from-man-of-steel-as-i-remem-516405346
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
Things/people/scenery will be punched.
Realistically that's all we can ask for.
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 13:12 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Don't understand what ya'll are complaining about.
― Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Thursday, 20 June 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
http://cityarts.info/2013/06/14/serious-fun/
Jesus Christ, Armond...
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 23 June 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link
And there's this film's death knell.
― hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM), Sunday, 23 June 2013 10:02 (ten years ago) link
"The Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole is a masterpiece, I promise you"
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Sunday, 23 June 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
I didn't hate this! Helps that I'd already been warned about the destruction porn. Liked most of the performances, and while Amy Adams was kind of whatever, I really liked the choice to make her Supes' confidante from the get-go rather than a clueless, arbitrary crush object. I hope they chicken out of Justice League and just give us a snappier sequel with Lex and a Superman who actually cares when buildings fall on people (or at least a director who doesn't show us buildings falling on people).
― da croupier, Monday, 24 June 2013 05:11 (ten years ago) link
kinda felt the same, pretty much. really liked Amy Adams though and the angle they went with as you said
it's superman though, punching people through buildings is 90% of what i'm looking for. more 9/11 crap was unnecessary though
― Nhex, Monday, 24 June 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link
god what an ugly, charmless, confused film
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Monday, 24 June 2013 07:35 (ten years ago) link
goyer and snyder answering the neverending "why can't anyone figure out how to make superman interesting again" with a resounding idgaf
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Monday, 24 June 2013 07:37 (ten years ago) link
and god how is it that they drill you with the old grade-school "superman as christ figure" symbols and completely ignore that christ had at least a modicum of charisma
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Monday, 24 June 2013 08:03 (ten years ago) link
holy shit the script actually makes nolan's batman films sound loose by comparison
i could count exactly one point where the dialogue didn't exist for sake of totally self-serious exposition (EVEN IN BATTLE), in the barfy out-of-nowhere "all downhill from the first kiss" exchange, which sort of sounded like something picked out of one of the reeve movies, which only made the script seem more like an aching miserable little barf baby yearning for sweet death, so desperate for purpose or direction or something, oh my god someone please take away david s. goyer's pen
didn't think i'd like iron man 3 more than before but i do now
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Monday, 24 June 2013 08:34 (ten years ago) link
MoS summed up in two words:
http://i.imgur.com/61Eoi.gif
― hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM), Monday, 24 June 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
it's superman though, punching people through buildings is 90% of what i'm looking for
what Superman stuff have you liked before
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/vkfUUqowQjA/mqdefault.jpg
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
a friend emailed this over the weekend:
http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2010b/superman-zod.gif
first picture: yes
second picture: idgi
― Nhex, Monday, 24 June 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
OK, let's go here... (makes me almost wanna see it)
If anything, Shannon’s Zod reminded me of an ultra-right Likudnik. The big, loud climax of the movie comes when Zod sends two gigantic robo-drills to terraform Earth into a New Krypton, which would of course end with the total extinction of the human race. But Zod’s not too worried about that. He all but says “can’t make Space-Zion without breaking a few eggs.”
For a character dreamed up by two Jewish boys in Cleveland as a kind of Moses-cum-Christ figure, it’s bizarre that no one’s made this connection yet. Which goes to show you just how off-the-radar the plight of the Palestinians is for both mainstream America as well as our circle of liberal film critics.
http://jacobinmag.com/2013/06/i-love-man-of-steel-and-im-not-sorry/
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
this movie made me think of Dune too, mostly when Michael Shannon screamed "I WILL FIND HIM! I WILL FIND HIM!"
― da croupier, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
Hahahah I thought the exact same thing.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
how fucking random was it that a free-falling jor-el was saved by his trusty dragon
― da croupier, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
Watching that scene I felt like Bart and Lisa watching Poochie returning to his home planet.
"They have dragons on Krypton?""I...guess."
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 June 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
shoulda had a dragon sent to the phantom zone so zod could show up on earth with a dragon
― da croupier, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
my cut would have also had aaron paul as a streetwise jimmy olson noting that dragons were now up in this bitch
― da croupier, Monday, 24 June 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link