"Bloat on a Boat" wouldn't have been the worst title for this film
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
It actually took me two viewings to realize this was a period piece. Could just as easily have been set in 2013 - these greedhead scumbags are the same no matter the year.
― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
some critic pointed out that as Gatsby he looks like Orson Welles
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, June 17, 2013 3:37 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hah i can kinda see a connection w/ citizen kane
― 乒乓, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
"Bloat on a Boat" would be apt:
Belfort was the final owner of luxury yacht the Nadine (renamed after his second wife, a British-born model) originally built for Coco Chanel. In June 1997, it sank off the east coast of Sardinia. The Italian Special Forces were called to rescue all aboard the vessel. Belfort has said he insisted on sailing out in high winds against the advice of his captain, resulting in the vessel's sinking when waves smashed the foredeck hatch.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
wait this is a period piece? what period?
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
is last year a period?
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
90s
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
makes me think of wall street 2... mcconaughey even makes the same whistling noise as eli wallach
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
late '80s i think?
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
that eli wallach whistle was one of the strangest things i've seen in a movie
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
i was just thinking that it seemed weird to show wall street excess in a corporate office environment w/ particle board ceilings
― 乒乓, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
particle board was all the rage, you're too young to remember
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
yeah this looks good. agree w/hurting that it'd be nice if they'd just replace all actors with new people I'm not sick of seeing but that's not really on the actors and I'll forget about it about ten minutes into the movie
― Oral Sex in Sharp’s Ridge Park (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
ok '90s is right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Belfort
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
they didn't bother with a period skyline I guess
― chinavision!, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
or locations
― chinavision!, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, June 17, 2013 3:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
haha yeah. and then the little flying bird hand gesture!
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
― Oral Sex in Sharp’s Ridge Park (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, June 17, 2013 3:48 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh actually I just meant I wish they'd replace dicaprio with someone else in every movie he's ever done. I never ever like him.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
although I can't say I was psyched to see Jonah Hill in this either
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, June 17, 2013 12:52 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha i still dgi, but i like that he still has enough clout to improv like that
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
i still think dicap looks pretty good in this one.
thing w/scorsese and leo is that i'm not sure scorsese wanted to find his new deniro as much as he wanted to find his new liotta.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
yeah. and i love that he's still out there acting, just like... who's gonna tell eli wallach he cant make birds with his hands, hes freakin 97
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
"you know what Fugazi is?
yeah it's one of my favorite bands."
― nostormo, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
Feels out of date, now that quants with Aspergers put these swinging dicks out of business.
― lols lane (Eazy), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
just watched trailer again and im more sold on it. leo's probably gonna be fine, it's in his wheelhouse
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
except he doesnt play 26 y/o as credibly as he used to
This will probably be bad, with the one caveat that lots of trailers make a movie look far worse than it actually is. (Going by the trailer posted on the Scorsese thread). So maybe that's the case here.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 June 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
im down with leo
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
and when he was 26 he played it like he was 17.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
i saw boiler room. man, this guy gets two party movies made about him.
― scott seward, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/79764/things-thrown-by-leonardo-dicaprio-in-the-trailer-for-the-wolf-of-wall-street
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
he seems like a really fun guy to party with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ZpaOmOzew
― scott seward, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
The Gauntlet down for Anybody Other Than Matthew McConaughey Who Wanted to Win an Oscar in 2014
lol no you pathetic sycophant
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/the-wolf-of-wall-street-trailer-gifs.html
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
mcconaughey looks like Rod Hull i swear.
― piscesx, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
yeah see that youtube video of him captures what dicaprio and all the other people to do these roles rarely get -- the kid from queens turned sales douchebag.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
mcconaughey's gonna be a pretty great weird-looking old guy
― discreet, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
he looks exactly how you'd picture him http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/09/04/1225769/656443-jordan-belfort.jpg
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
lol I had this thought too
he's been really fun recently, post romcom wasteland
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
I think mcconaughey looks like he'll be good in this, maybe enough to save it
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
wild supporting cast
Jon BernthalJon FavreauEthan Suplee Spike Jonze Rob ReinerShea WhighamJean DujardinJoanna LumleyChristine Ebersole
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
i guess jon favreau too old to play the lead. he's jerky enough.
― scott seward, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
vin diesel was good as the guy in boiler room. i think he was the guy. its been awhile. scorsese should just work with vin.
― scott seward, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
or wait did ben affleck play the main guy? he's good at being a dick. he's from boston.
― scott seward, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
joanna lumley?? *mind blown*
― piscesx, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
I've watched the trailer three or four times, and yeah, some of it works. McConaughey thumping his chest is great--but it's great in the way it plays off the Kanye West song. How well it'll work in the film, especially after you've seen it already, who knows.
The obvious problem, which I'm sure someone's mentioned already, is that every square inch of the immorality/excess/fantasyland of this world has been covered already, starting with Wall Street and especially the past few years in a bunch of documentaries. Scorsese's so late on this. I guess no one's done it as broad comedy yet, but not sure if he's the guy to pull that off.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
you guys do know you just watched a 2-minute trailer, and not the actual film, right?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
no
― Lamp, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
Marty's like the Da Vinci code--we look for clues, and hope...Trailer or no trailer, the recent spate of films covering the same general territory is surely a problem. DiCaprio's opening line about 49 million falls so flat--are we supposed to think "That kind of greed is unimaginable!" after Gordon Gekko and the Enron film and Inside Job and all the rest?
― clemenza, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
you never know when scorsese's gonna surprise you, but honestly this feels like the most overdone and unexciting subject in the world right now
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
Many ppl who have never seen a Jerry Lewis film say this of this Lewis hommage
There is plenty of room for both, Morbs. Jackie Chan does not negate Buster Keaton or Harold Lloyd, thank goodness.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 August 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link
this really is way too long and all the Goodfellas parallels are v obvious (luude freakout leading up to bust = coke + helicopter freakout). Goodfellas is taut and *short* though, makes me wonder if all the bloat in this was not in some ways v intentional, since the whole thing is about bloated excess.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 August 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
That's sort of how I watch it. I mean, Wolf is 30 minutes longer than Fellas, which isn't radical. Tastes vary, obviously, but I can't think of 30 minutes I'd necessarily want cut from this, any more than I can think of 30 minutes Fellas should be longer. Different stories. Fellas is clearly superior, but I'm not sure I can understand why someone would like that one and outright hate this one, even if it is just more of the same but less.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 August 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
started re-watching this last night
otm tbh
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 18 August 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
"the sides cured cancer, that's why they were so expensive"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 August 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
WoWS and Silence back-to-back is a pretty impressive directorial achievement, not sure of another director who would be capable of making two films of imo near-equal quality (i lean more towards Silence, maybe) that completely different in almost every respect.
― nomar, Friday, 18 August 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
A pretty clean guilt-transcendence pivot.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
Silence is def the better film
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 August 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
but yeah it is a p interesting 1-2 punch
havent seen silence just want to say this movie rules
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
wouldn't cut a second of it
Its ~drunk on power, full bore live for today~ nihilism is genuinely electric and frightening. Walked out of it in a daze. I think it's a great film and a fitting end to the Goodfellas, Casino unintentional trilogy.
― circa1916, Thursday, 24 August 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link
I think when Leo casually watched the plane crash and thought about what it meant to him personally was when I knew it was special.
― circa1916, Thursday, 24 August 2017 04:52 (six years ago) link
haha that plane crash was like the Departed's "the rat symbolizes obviousness" redux
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/5VIjIJ9YO5lyU/giphy.gif
― nomar, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
The Wolf of Wall Street (1929) started out as a silent movie, but was reworked to include sound. It was released in February, eight months before the Wall Street Crash of 1929. The plot involves a trader who corners the market in copper pic.twitter.com/43nmY0oa5E— Silent Movie GIFs (@silentmoviegifs) April 5, 2019
The Wolf of Wall Street (1929) is today believed to be a lost film. The only part of the movie known to still exist is this brief montage sequence created by Slavko Vorkapić pic.twitter.com/W5pzqDvDWX— Silent Movie GIFs (@silentmoviegifs) April 5, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
I like the zeppelin.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
Very Terry Gilliam.
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 8 April 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
The fact that WOLF OF WALL STREET’s financing continues to lead to active prosecution is pretty perfect pic.twitter.com/zUMzN4lmfM— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) July 7, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
Goodfellas is taut and *short* though, makes me wonder if all the bloat in this was not in some ways v intentional, since the whole thing is about bloated excess.
there were some fairly comical things in the second half but tonally they didn't make me laugh much, which i think was an intentional function of the length and bloat - like they had to be made pathetic/ridiculous enough that you could see them as comical without finding them funny, because the funniness of the first half was part of the enticement of the audience but it needs a moral corrective that follows the plot.
surprising amount of slow motion in this - it's been a while since i've seen his older movies so i forget but he is fond of it, right? which seems caught up with the tone. all the scenes of office debauchery sliding into slow-mo or seeming sped-up like hints of benny hill, seemed like it voided all those scenes of their potential titillation.
― j., Sunday, 5 January 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
I probably said this up thread but I think Scorsese’s moral seriousness is the reason he doesn’t shortchange the allure of “bad” behavior. Like they say about war movies, you kinda can’t help but make this stuff look fun/exciting...but he sees that the only way out is through, which is why on rewatching a 2nd or 3rd time the desperation and sadness that seems to drive everything/everyone seems downright obvious. I’d be willing to bet that on some level Scorsese sees making films itself as morally dubious...at least movies like this (though Silence has similar overtones)...and so they operate as confessions, and they keep that charge of titillation that all good confession surely has.
― ryan, Sunday, 5 January 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
lord make me chaste, but not yet
― j., Sunday, 5 January 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link
this is a great thread, one day i will maybe watch this movie and discover who is right and who is wrong
― mark s, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
it really says something about the audience that wants characters wrapped in immoral excess
every broke american is a temporarily disenfranchised millionaire, who would totally be the good millionaire if they actually made it. and if they weren't, then we should grant them some leeway, because they meant to be the good millionaire.
― babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
the audience is embodied in the movie by the two security guards who watch margot robbie's character taunt her husband sexually through the nanny cam
― babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
incredible movie
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 May 2020 03:27 (three years ago) link
otm
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 May 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link
Brad otm nelson
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 08:42 (three years ago) link