99% of indie pop is good- you just havent heard most of it yet

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(and My Favorite "Burning Hearts")

*drools* what an amazing song that is

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

julio is right, because no matter what sort of music it is, it is impossible that 99% of it could be good -- it dont matter if its free jazz, indie pop or whatever.

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just started listening to Blueboy, and am so very very happy for it.

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 23 February 2003 07:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

jim, they were in an online catalog, and I just saw that they were from Melbourne. And they have songs called Dawsons Creek and Together Forever (which I'm supposing is a cover of the Kylie and Jason song).

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 23 February 2003 10:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Julio, unless you want throngs of angry indiepopers besmirching your freejazz threads w/ claims of "OH GOD THIS SUCKS FUCKING ASS", I recommend not poking a sleeping bear, no matter how cute & cuddly it seems.''

I do not care if braindead indiepop fans do that david (free jazz threads only ever get 5-20 replies anyway). I have heard indiepop and most of it has nothing going for it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 23 February 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I do think that indiepop kids are very uncritical and everybody goes around saying everything is good. I don't want to waste my time or money on anything that's less than good, so I want to know what's GREAT.

Doesn't that approach kind of miss the point? I should really stay out of this.

-fh

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 23 February 2003 11:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The number one band in the indiepop list poll this year was the Funday Mornings" >

I arranged their first live show, they are really nice 15 year olds
you can get their 7" from www.benno.com or maybe www.normanrecords.com
or maybe www.roughtrade.com

You´ll like it if you like the likes of Fat tulips, Talulah gosh, Twa toots...

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 23 February 2003 11:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

jel, my understanding of S/S is that they have stupid lyrics and want to be The Salteens. but as i said i haven't heard them and could be wrong.

(Plus i know one of their members so I'm loath to do my usual sight-unseen slagging)

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 February 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Camera Obscura's "Underachievers Please Try Harder" stands up well to repeated listens.

I am curious about the Baskervilles.

It has been a quiet start of 2004 for indiepop.

marianna, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

Mascott's "Dreamer's Book" is pretty great.

LondonLee (LondonLee), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

i know it was march 2003, but Saturday Looks Good to Me "All Your Summer Songs" I think maybe was one of my favorite albums of the year.

The Architecture in Helsinki album is coming out in Europe and USA in April. It's really nice.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

I got the shins album, but that's like major label indie pop. Most of the indie pop I like is Spanish as I'm free from trite lyrics and tweeness this way, unless I learn Spanish, which is unlikey.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

after the belle&sebastian show in new york, these kids were handing out boxes and boxes of free baskervilles CDs but i think i left mine on the train, on purpose. are they supposed to be good?

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

i'm seeing this band tonight called Architecture in Helsinki that's supposed to be "good"... ???

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

The Melbourne crew has talked about them a few times, as that is where they are from. They might well be 'good.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

"have" fun... ???

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

It's really disturbing to read comments you've forgotten you made.

Dare, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

the baskervilles are great, kinda like a band that should have been in athens in 1983. they also remind me of the able tasmans though they don't sound anything like them, just that the piano is really prominent and the lyrics are smart little stories. they don't sound anything like belle and sebastian though everyone says they do, it's more like college rock/pop from the 80s.


the magic whispers cd is great, kinda like a modern update of hunky dory but with two girls singing. the pipas ep is fantastic. new brunettes album is out soon.

keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

I like Fosca a great deal. Scarlet's Well is coming off pretty well, though I've always viewed Bid as slighly inconsistent.

And Orlando is hot, even though they are only a pretend indie band.

Luke Broster, Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:24 (twenty years ago) link

new scarlet's well in a month or so. new clientele ep which i haven't got my hands on yet. dickon edward's involvement in scarlet's well worries me... he's ace, but you don't mess with perfection.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 March 2004 07:45 (twenty years ago) link

> Architecture in Helsinki

i've heard the lp, courtesy of melbournian friend, and is one of my favourites of last year. and they made it into peel's festive fifty with that song about the owl (or something). remind me a lot of bearsuit and hyper kinako if that helps, like the indiepop version of melt banana - little bitty pop songs.

oh, here we go, festive fifty 2003: (http://infoman16.tripod.com/festive50/festiv03.htm)

5- Bearsuit - Itsuko got married
(A-side of limited edition single)
29- Architecture In Helsinki - The owls go
(from Fingers Crossed)
44- Hyper-Kinako - Tokyo Invention Registration Office
(B-side of Car And Kettle) (Demo)

andy

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 25 March 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

the owls go is the worst song on that record. "kindling" and "souvenirs" are far better and far less irritating

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

is the new bearsuit LP out?
also, where do i get a copy of hyper-kinako? i heard an mp3 (some song about a frog princess) and loved it.

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 25 March 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

new scarlet's well in a month or so. new clientele ep which i haven't got my hands on yet. dickon edward's involvement in scarlet's well worries me... he's ace, but you don't mess with perfection.

He was invited to write for the fourth album too, but he neglected to get anything put together. I think the two of them are on a similar wavelength, though, so it shouldn't affect the style much. Besides, it isn't as of non-Bid material has never been featured on a Scarlet's Well album. If Dickon even writes anything, that is.

But at the same time, I can see what you mean. The subject matter is so outlandish that it'd be easy for it to fall into self-parody without some careful rules set into place.

Luke Broster, Friday, 26 March 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

is the new bearsuit LP out?

Comes out the middle of the next month, but you can get it early from their website now.

Ryan WS (fffv), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

I guess it's not a good idea to be too superstitious about the creative process. I just like the records so much!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
That Hyper-Kinako song "Don't Delete my Frog" is out now on Purr and, incredibly, was lat week's single of the week in Kerrang!

Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I heard "Stowaway" by Tullycraft on Play It As It Lays, a radio show on KUCI, yesterday. It was good.

youn, Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link

is it a new song? i always found tullycraft very difficult to bear, almost 100% because of the guy's voice.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

i finally heard Girlinky and i like them a lot

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a song from their latest album. His singing is prominent on it, so maybe you won't like it. (xpost)

youn, Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i probably should have said "often" rather than "always" because there are a small handful of their songs i like.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link

the young tradition album 'northern drive' is elegant and beautiful, like a sunny pop band whose favorite band is blueboy. it doesn't sound like blueboy. i am sure they are blatantly aping some 60s band but it's wonderful all the same.

keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Also great this year: the Voxtrot 7", the Math & Physics Club EP.

mikef-who-mostly-lurks (mfleming), Thursday, 19 May 2005 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link

That Hyper-Kinako song "Don't Delete my Frog" is out now on Purr and, incredibly, was lat week's single of the week in Kerrang!
-- Ben Dot (wearethedot...) (webmail), April 13th, 2004 10:40 PM. (link)

Is that about a certain ringtone on a phone?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 19 May 2005 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link

ARF.

I think The Pipettes should do a song called Wing'd Defenestration (Song For Sweety The Chick).

(Do you know, I've never heard the Pipettes, I would have done but I went to see Vichy instead along with a TRAMP and a drunk - oh that drunk was me looking in the mirror, oh well).

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Indie Kind Myles sent me the funniest hate mail ever after this thread by the way! It was fantastic, thanks Myles!

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i heard them over the phone the other day. sound quality wasn't great.

xpost

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link

The Girlinky single seems decent. New band out named Hookers Green No.1's debut album hearkens back to the first Beta Band LP, with mixed results so far (like a dour, British Plus-Tech or Cornelius). The last Thrills single was...actually good. The Japanese band, Neil & Iraiza, are perfect, occasionally experimental, sunny-to-pensive indie pop. Seriously. The song I put on the song request thread by The Boy Least Likely To seems to have gone quick, and I already know I'm not the only person here who likes them. I doubt I'll hear a better indie record all year. You should grab the Bronze Age Fox track I put on the same thread - indie Prince, y'all!

The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Revived in Honor of Pitchfork's "Twee As Fuck" article.

The complementary ILM thread: "99% of indiepop is crap" is where most of the deep thinking that maybe was where Nitsuh's essay developed from, but its tone is a little cantankerous, so I thought I'd bring this one back first.

Anyway, thank god for filesharing networks or else the recommendation to check out Blueboys 'If Wishes Were Horses" would have driven the ebay prices way out of my budget.

marianna (mariannapm), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Umlaut!

vacuum cleaner (electricsound), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link


i can't stop listening to "pop songs your new boyfreind's too stupid to know about"

(that said, im fairly certain im the guy he's singing about. or at least i was two years ago, im better now. hopefully.)

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

that was a very good article! just like the author I've also always had this feeling that in general modern day indie fans in the us and the uk never make a real distinction between indie pop and indie rock(whereas atleast in sweden there is a divide between pop kids and rock kids). nabisco explained that very well imo.

btw you should have put a My Favorite song on the mix tape!

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I just upload this song for a friend who requested it. thought maybe there is someone who might be interested, even though I assume most people have already heard it.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GM65ZGED

emma's house

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a trend, this article and the one a bit back on the cutie club. nostalgia running rampant. could have gone on about how indiepop luminaries are taking over the world. or could have added some stuff on the importance of mail order places like roundabout and parasol. but i thought it was great.

keyth (keyth), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link

the thread title sounds like the opening line from an IQ test gone horribly wrong...

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

the thread title sounds like the opening line from an IQ test question gone horribly wrong...

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

the thread title sounds like some kind of mission statement for the NME "99% of indie pop is good, we just hype the 1% that isn't".

login name (fandango), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah - way to go, nabisco - good article! its gonna get me to check out wolfie and rocketship; a friend recently suggested them, but the landed squarely on my musical backburner.

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Any fans of The Feelings from Portland, Oregon? Me, at the very least.

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey check out my stellar thread-relevant haul yesterday at the shop I used to manage (I am in the US):

Hood - I've Forgotten How To Live
Juno - Magnified And Reduced By Inches / Pablo Y Zelda
Fertile Virgin - Lucky Day
14 Iced Bears - World I Love
Tompot Blenny - Thinking Of Ways Of Keeping You Warm
Trembling Blue Stars - The Rainbow
St. Christopher - All Of A Tremble
The Sweetest Ache - I Remember Caroline
Strawberry Story - Small & Slightly Rounded EP
Various - Joe Friday
The Some Loves - It's My Time
The Melons - Strictly Melonhead EP
The Melons - Fast Lane
Eye Pilgrims / Choo Choo Train - Wall Of Sand / Many Happy Returns

Not bad for ~$55 total, right?

Evan, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

Anyway... anyone have any good leads for some obscure "classic" indie cassette compilation uploads? I've been hunting the web and it's tougher than I'd thought! Not to dismiss the great stuff I AM finding but just as often I'll learn of compilations that don't seem to exist digitally on soulseek or blogs or archive.org etc. yet. Or, I'll remain puzzled at the absence of any blogs dedicated to that "scene" of DIY and/or small label cassettes (with downloads). It would seem like one of those things a fan like myself with access would have done by now.

Evan, Friday, 17 March 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

Have a gander at the things on here that aren't the NME tapes (actually the NME tapes are largely excellent but they are mostly outside the rubric of this thread): https://pressplayandrecord.wordpress.com/

I found this by searching for two old tapes whose names stuck in my head: Abigail's Birthday Party and Plinky Plonky There's a Donkey. For shame.

Tim, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

Ha! I can see why they stuck... thanks!

Evan, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

You're welcome. There are some good things on those tapes but if you emerge from listening to them and find yourself agreeing with the thread title, you're made from stronger stuff than I am.

Tim, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

I have a high tolerance for messy experimental throwaway if there's at least something to grab onto. Could just be atmosphere, or the extra-musical context of the tape aesthetic. The lows emphasize the highs along the journey, too. It all contributes to an audio ransom note of pop experiments with punk spirit.

Evan, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

pinefox I'm sorry to have passed over your post above!

You're probably right. I remember 2004-06 the trend in indie circles was bombast and post-rock/emo melodrama with elaborate post-twee instrumentation. Classic indie-pop was all about the ingredients of punk with a pop approach, so it would make sense that this would come back when there was a need for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction. But the 80s revival was certainly extremely popular too so yeah that focus got mixed in.

Evan, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link


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