Best Roxy Music Album

sw00ds and I discuss Roxy and Ferry.

Thinking Siren might be my new fave, some kick-ass jams on that one...

Siren is indeed a great album, definitely their most underrated. Both Ends Burning, Whirlwind and She Sells would all find a place on my best of Roxy Music.

It's a shame how low Stranded finished, it's my favourite but then the first three albums would all easily make my all time top fifty.

Flesh & Blood is their only weak album, really forgettable apart from Same Old Scene which is a great single.

It would be a toss-up between Country Life and Avalon, but I'd have to go with Avalon.

Siren is indeed a great album, definitely their most underrated.

In England, you mean?

I always think of Siren as their peak album, even if I don't like it the very best (though sometimes I do), so it's weird to see it place so low here!

Britishes aren't as fond of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SN4aqXCE0Y

I love this performance. Watch him catch that tambourine near the end!

Siren is indeed a great album, definitely their most underrated.

In England, you mean?

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, August 7, 2010 6:49 PM (Yesterday)

Yeah I think so. Love is the Drug is one of their biggest hits and one of the songs they are best known for but I think most people here rank the first four and Avalon as the real classics. Personally I think it's a much stronger album than Country Life.

I think Siren and Avalon are my faves, but then I grew up with their greatest hits, then downloaded everything they ever did in one big lump a couple of years ago, which I kinda regret now because it's all been presented to me as one conglomerated bunch of records.

Siren > Stranded

Ranked:

1. Avalon
2. Country Life
3. Siren
4. Stranded
5. For Your Pleasure
6. Roxy Music
7. Flesh + Blood
8. Manifesto

lol at 10-year-ago me trying to impress ilm by declaring a bootleg my favorite Roxy record (although it is a GREAT boot.) 2017 answer: Siren.

I could not imagine ever ranking Avalon number one.

it's the only Roxy album i listen to w/ any regularity, but maybe i am not a TRUE FAN.

At one point every album except F&B was my favorite.

lol at 10-year-ago me trying to impress ilm by declaring a bootleg my favorite Roxy record (although it is a GREAT boot.) 2017 answer: Siren.

― I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson)

honestly, i listen to the bbc session versions of the first album stuff way more than i listen to the first album proper. but my favorite album of theirs is still "country life".

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I wouldn't lose any sleep over Josh in Chicago's opinion.

The first LP is pretty much an album of two halves for me - I outright adore the first half, but the second is probably their weakest side of vinyl from 1972-1975 for me. For Your Pleasure is a more consistent record, but ultimately I think they got better after Eno left.

Manifesto and Flesh + Blood are a reunited Roxy Music easing themselves back into it and warming up for Avalon.

One of my all-time fave bands. My ranking would be:

1. Stranded
2. For Your Pleasure
3. Flesh + Blood
4. Roxy Music
5. Avalon
6. Country Life
7. Manifesto
8. Siren

...and I do love Siren, it's just that all of the other ones have more of an impact on me.
I am aware that I am in the minority with my high ranking of Flesh+Blood (I named it as well in that recent thread on 'least acclaimed albums you love', someone singled it out as a winning answer). I find the whole mood of that album amazing and could never understand the lack of acclaim for it.

I love Manifesto's hybrid of L.A. studio rock and disco

Avalon is good, don't get me wrong. But I like a couple of Ferry solo albums as much, for the same reasons. Whereas the first five Roxy albums to me are like nothing else, really, and I've loved them all more or less equally at different times for the same mix of novelty, wit and barely controlled chaos. And muscle, tbh.

I personally don't think any of Ferry's solo albums come close to having the level of production that Avalon does.

i don't understand that post given boys and girls

Yes, even compared to Boys and Girls. Avalon also has the superior material.

thought we were talking about production

We were.

The production on B+G is immaculate; the material turns diaphonous after a while. Bete Noir is baroque in its dedication to covering slightly unwashed songs in cologne.

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said Patrick Leonard in November '86.

The production on B+G is immaculate; the material turns diaphonous after a while.

ah so you're the person i disagree with about this. every time i listen to b+g i go through the "this is my favorite song. no wait THIS is my favorite song" process

"Stranded". Difficult to choose between that and their first, as "If There Is Something" is an all-time classic track

i finally got into non-avalon roxy last month and stranded is def my fav pre-avalon

Stranded and Country Life are usually my two faves.

"Amazona" kicks ass

I think Stranded, Country Life and Siren is an excellent run, the peak of their "art rock" years. I'd have considered that run to be their overall peak if they hadn't managed to put together Avalon.

Stranded is one of my favorite records by anyone, ever (ok, maybe not "A Song For Europe").

Never got into post-hiatus Roxy. Without Paul Thompson, it just doesn't feel like Roxy (and even then, Manifesto was pretty disappointing).

I'll be the heretic in this thread and say that I prefer "The Thrill Of It All" box set which weeds out the weak material and adds a mess of great non-lp stuff. Of the handful of worthy songs left off the box, I've got them as BBC sessions or as killer live versions from Musikladen TV.

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i really like manifesto (but i also really like the second side of the first one)

things i did not know abt paul thompson: he played with the angelic upstarts for a while (working with mensi must a be a nice holiday after putting up with ferry)
things i did know abt paul thompson: he is a great drummer

'If There Is Something' and 'Amazona' do indeed kick ass. As do 'Mother of Pearl', 'Street Life', 'The Thrill of it All', 'Both Ends Burning', 'Out of the Blue', loads of others...

Another thing you may not have known about Paul Thompson: he auditioned for AC/DC when Phil Rudd left or was fired in the early '80s.

xp

And he was inexplicably in Concrete Blonde for a while, c. "Joey."

Avalon and Boys and Girls are like a lost double album to me. Together they are extremely strong; stronger than either one on it's own.

It's such a marvelous mess, all of it.

Ferry singing in French reminds me of Kenneth Williams singing Crepe Suzette and I still love it.

.. only more camp.

The Pitchfork Sunday review today is 'For Your Pleasure.' Some intriguing points were made concerning connections between British art schools and British art rock. I don't care. The rating score he gave for the album is 9.5. Everybody knows that this is a 10 album, if there is such a thing as a 10 album. It is perfect in every way and one cannot even conceive of how it could be improved upon. So for the love of God, what sort of logic could lead to a 9.5 score? Do I even want to know?

I'd rate FYP an 8 and I love Ferry more than you love your girlfriend.

I’m as gay as a unicorn ranch Soto, which reveals the inherent illogic of this discussion so, checkmate Mary!

yeah i don't know, FYP would be a 10 to me. It's one of my favorite albums of all time.