where is the love for George Jones?

Or perhaps, I weep for me.

I like the few George Jones singles I have.

Hell yeah, I heard this for the first time a couple weeks ago, and it is perfection.

http://nashville.bizjournals.com/nashville/stories/2007/01/15/daily18.html

Holy shit this will be something.

If I privately told you to keep it on the downlow that the entire second season of Cocaine & Rhinestones is about George Jones, you can talk about it now.

Patreon update went out today.

— Tyler Mahan Coe (@TylerMahanCoe) June 29, 2019

😲

Cocaine, Rhinestones, and Lawnmowers.

I feel like Tales from the Tourbus ate these guys’ lunch

And we are off and running

This is just the first episode in a season of a podcast. It's not a trapdoor dropping you into a maze with only one horrific path out. These are just stories.https://t.co/M2DzoUu497

— Tyler Mahan Coe (@TylerMahanCoe) April 20, 2021

him and con artist tweeney suck shit!

From my Nashville Scene ballot comments on 2018 releasss--this made my Best Reissues (here I quote myself on Twitter and add a little more detail):

George Jones/Jones Boys: Live in TX '65: Brave ballads of
self-torture x "C Jam Blues," "White Lightnin'," "Bony Maronie,"
"B Bowman Bop." Panhandle Rag," "Jole Blon,"
JB trusty/Bladerunner
crooner also cool w girl part on
"We Must Have Been Out of Our Minds," heavy guests too.
Guests incl. steel guitarist Buddy Emmons and fiddlers Red Hayes
and (on "Jole Blond") Rufus Thibodeaux ("Two-By-Four,"
George calls him). The JBs crooner is Don Adams
---android-sounding, strangely(?) satisfying.
That's officially George Jones and the Jones Boys, Live in Texas 1965(Ace)
Amazonsplains:
Live archive release from the country music legend. Widely regarded as one of the greatest live country albums of the 1960s, George Jones Live At Dancetown USA was part of the Ace catalogue for decades - first on vinyl, then in expanded form on CD. Given the advances in technology since it's first digital issue more than 20 years ago, Ace figured it was probably time to upgrade the package with freshly remastered audio (in mono this time, the way it was always meant her be heard, rather than the 2-track of the previous issues with George's vocals on one channel and the Jones Boys' accompaniment on the other), an expanded booklet with a new cover design, a more detailed sleevenote and a new title. Live In Texas 1965 remains one of the most authentic examples of a working country musician plying his trade in front of a hometown crowd. As well as energetic and committed performances of some of Jones' greatest hits - frequently shouted for by the very boisterous crowd - you will hear extended solo showcases for various band musicians, singers and guests. There's even a rare attempt at a rock 'n' roll classic, a type of music George was never noted for enjoying. Hey, that one sounds fine too! V. salubrious atmosphere.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71haTiAjRmL._SL1200_.jpg

what’s the story on Coe and that pod? A friend of mine made the same comment to me? xpost

The early tracks referenced in this new ep of Cocaine & Rhinestones are fun espnin terms of all the impersonating of other artists he was able to do, it’s wild to hear

And I love his Thumper Jones rockabilly tracks

Episode is a pretty fascinating journey overall, Jones just a part of the bigger StarDay Records picture

I was gearing up for a whole episode about pinball machines and then he swerved into music. Tiny bit of a letdown tbh.

Just kidding, this was nice. I'd wondered how he was going to turn hours and hours and hours of S2 into a story about one man, but now I see how and I think it's going to go just fine.

Yeah and with Owen Bradley next up, can't wait.

I'm most looking forward to the entrance of Billy Sherrill into the story.

i had no idea pinball gambling was ever a thing

^^One of the winning plotlines cut from Tommy, iirc.

Portland Exposé (1957) is a B->C grade sleazy entertaining noir about the dangers of letting organized crime get into the pinball machine gambling racket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88LcolGvZtg

Apparently, Portland was the center of pinball gambling racketeering. Who knew?

https://offbeatoregon.com/1307d-pinball-wars-elkins-vs-teamsters.html
https://www.oregonlive.com/history/2021/03/portland-underworld-scandal-in-1950s-pitted-gangsters-against-hollywood-b-movie-reshoots-compare-city-then-and-now.html

a B->C grade sleazy entertaining noir

The best kind of movies, really.

Gonna listen this afternoon, I hope.

I never finished the first season. But was obsessed with the Buck Owens episodes for a while.

god those were good: my favorites

In addition to everything else, there was there the whole mystery angle about Don Rich's motorcycle.

Reminds me: Omnivore's put their Buck Capitol singles series all together now:
http://omnivorerecordings.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Owens-Complete-Capitol-Singles-57-75-OV-392.jpg
Buck Owens And The Buckaroos
The Complete Capitol Singles: 1957-1975
Release date: March 12, 2021
$74.98
For the first time, Omnivore Recordings, in conjunction with the Buck Owens Estate, is proud to present Buck Owens and The Buckaroos’ The Complete Capitol Singles: 1957–1976—all three of the acclaimed 2-CD collections: The Complete Capitol Singles: 1957–1966, The Complete Capitol Singles: 1967–1970, and The Complete Capitol Singles: 1971–1975, gathered together in a slipcase, available at a new low price.

Taken from the original mono master tapes, The Complete Capitol Singles: 1957–1966 collects all 28 singles from that period, including 13 #1’s, in their original, chronological form, including Buck’s duets with Rose Maddox. Packaging features liner notes from Buck’s autobiography (written with Randy Poe), plus an introduction by Dwight Yoakam.

The Complete Capitol Singles: 1967–1970 collects the A- and B-sides from the original mono and stereo masters to all 18 singles from that period, including 14 Top Ten hits, and duets with Buddy Alan and Susan Raye.

The third and final volume in the series, The Complete Capitol Singles: 1971–1975 collects the A- and B-sides to all 21 singles from that period, including 9 Top Ten hits, and 4 duets with Rose Maddox. Packaging features liner notes from Scott B. Bomar.

These are the records that made Buck Owens a legend and defined the Bakersfield Sound. It’s history. It’s The Complete Capitol Singles: 1957–1975.
To me, the third volume gets kinda peaked; you might be better off with the first two individually, and then, if you're still Jonesin' for Owens, if you can't Buck the habit, be ready for cherrypickin' time with Vol. 3.
They've also got tons of his stuff on vinyl: 7" singles, maybe EPs, certainly LPs:
http://omnivorerecordings.com/?post_type=product&s=Buck+Owens+vinyl

Final 'prologue' Cocaine and Rhinestones today about the Nashville A Team -- another great overview of course -- and in two weeks we get into Jones straight up with an episode all about "White Lightning," which, yes please.

any prelude that includes Johnny Horton & Bob Dylan side-journeys is aok by me

goddamn if i dont have a full appreciation for the A Team now my god

I really like George Jones and always mean to spend more time digging into his catalog.

I remember when I was first exploring George Jones's catalog, it was pretty messy, and unfortunately it seems pretty messy now on Spotify. Compilations are the way to go with Jones so you'd think that would help matters, but there have been WAY too many Jones compilations, and most of them aren't compiled that well.

Scott Schinder wrote this for Lone Star Magazine right after Jones passed away - it's essentially a record-buying guide for the uninitiated, I couldn't do a better job myself:

https://lonestarmusicmagazine.com/mr-record-man-george-jones/

It helps that Jones's most famous records can be broken down into four labels of ownership:

The first is on Starday/Mercury, and what's close to the definitive compilation of that era is Cup Of Loneliness: The Classic Mercury Years. Available for many years, it's now OOP but should be easy to find. NOT on Spotify.

The United Artists era came next, and Omnivore just put out a great compilation, The Complete United Artists Solo Singles. That's on Spotify too, but I actually prefer the OOP She Thinks I Still Care: The George Jones Collection from Razor & Tie, which has more tracks including his duets with Melba Montgomery. It also has better sound, but that's more to preference - both sets are mastered very well from first-generation sources. (Razor & Tie actually used the original three-tracks, so that may be Omnivore's source too.)

The Musicor era is still a mess in the U.S. As mentioned Time-Life had The Great Lost Hits which was a godsend but that's apparently OOP. It's not on Spotify either, but you should be able to find it cheap and still-sealed for $10 or $12.

Then there's the Columbia era with Billy Sherrill's schlocky production - that has always been available and endlessly repackaged. The Spirit of Country scoops up almost all of the best stuff, and I like those records now because Jones's ballad-singing is at its peak, but for me the production was an acquired taste.

Coe has been talking up the Bear Family boxes and rightly but of course they’re not designed as introductions.

birdistheword, the fourth edition of the Rolling Stone Album Guide from 2004 contains a compact summary of his then-in-print discography which agrees with many of the points you make.
The only record of his that I own is All-Time Greatest Hits: Volume 1, which is a 1977 re-recording on Epic of earlier hits. Christgau recommended it as a record for country neophytes to get into the genre, presumably because the then-contemporary production would be more palatable for rock listeners than the original recordings.

I forgot about that entry - Tom Hull wrote it, and not only did he upload his entries on to his own website, he's also included his "notes" (basically past Guide ratings and discography entries that he used as a starting point for the new entries he was commissioned to do).

Here's the Jones one:
http://tomhull.com/ocston/arch/rs/jones,george.php

FWIW, there's never been a truly satisfying cross-label compilation, but I think one's possible despite his massive output. Rhino was on the right track with The Best of George Jones (1955-1967). It was one CD, but it was about as long as a single LP, and it would've made more sense to stop at the end of his Musicor period (1971) rather than the middle. Instead of 18 tracks, that CD should've been 25 tracks minimum, probably 28. Leaving out the Columbia material does make sense though - to make the set more stylistically cohesive, but also he was on Columbia for so long and sold so many records that you might as well get a separate compilation for that era.

You can see her, very briefly, as a nightclub singer in violent Italian crime film Colt 38 Special Squad

lol wrong thread

Heh

Columbia era with Billy Sherrill's schlocky production

EXCUSE ME

Olde ILX?

EXCUSE ME

Yeah, I said it! SCHLOCKY! I mean, listen to the "classically trained" singing in the background - every time I hear it, I feel like the Marx Brothers chucking fruit at Mrs. Teasdale at the end of Duck Soup. (By the time they got to the '80s, Sherrill wised up and replaced it with the Oak Ridge Boys et al.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkcfy3Q8vB4

oof!

Man, Jones really finds the most fucked up heartbreak stories!

Hm!

Michael Shannon Duets With Jessica Chastain In ‘George & Tammy;’ John Hillcoat Directing Limited Series On George Jones & Tammy Wynette Marriage https://t.co/WTfWBRRakj

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) December 7, 2021

Okay, maybe I do need Disney+ after all.

nice try, Disney

Fear not

George & Tammy will premiere exclusively on Spectrum followed by a second window on Paramount+ and the Paramount Network.

Oh, I think the rest of the Redd family has Paramount+ for some Star Trek stuff so I’m good, thanks.

nice try, ViacomCBS!!!!

lol

guys

how did i not know about “george jones and the smoky mountain boys”????

george jones ✅
roy acuff’s backing band ✅
recorded pristinely some time in the early 1970s ✅
traditional fiddle arrangements etc ✅
just banger after banger after banger ✅
including a pre-red-headed-stranger “blue eyes crying in the rain” ✅✅✅✅✅

ah maybe post. hard to find info about this. there is some unhappiness from the producer about getting no credit.

https://eu.tennessean.com/story/money/2018/03/15/george-jones-widow-record-label-sued-earl-peanutt-montgomery-5-million/427475002/

finally caught up with season 2 of Cocaine & Rhinestones. devastating stuff.

I wish Jones had recorded this song. (This is a demo Elvis Costello recorded for Jones, basically to pitch him the song and show how it would work as a country arrangement.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IibfRi_7S_o

listening to a CDr of stuff from his complete united artists recordings 1962-1964 and i just love it to death! it just sounds so good to me. especially those harmonies. whoever did the harmonies with him is awesome. i don't really listen to george jones. but i got hundreds of CDrs that someone had burned of cool country comps/rockabilly/bear family boxes. great sound too. this is a real standout. love "Brown To Blue". its all good though.

I haven't seen that series yet. Does Michael Shannon pull it off?