Spoon, "Gimme Fiction"

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They should have at least ironed the hood.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the cover's just fine. its just as minimal as kill the moonlight or girls can tell were. britt seems to gravitate towards what i can only refer to as "duotone" images, meaning its black plus one color.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

it looks like an advert for cosmetics or something. my thumbs are also firmly down, too.

― fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

jaymc -- im sorry! i knew someone said it but i couldnt remember just who.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've got no real reservations about the composition of the cover (black + 1), but not a fan of the image itself.

That font and the font colors over another image would be just dandy.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

(xpost) heh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Johhny Fever and I are in opposite mode on this record in every aspect of its being! I like the photo and think the text looks a bit half-assed.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the cover, too, actually. At first glance it reminded me simultaneously of this Gerhard Richter painting:

http://www.kunsthalle.nuernberg.de/ausstellung/1999/artistsproof/richter.jpg

and this Katharina Fritsch sculpture:

http://www.artic.edu/aic/programs/images/2000_49.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

they should try for something more like:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg400/g404/g40453v02cv.jpg

― fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

beautiful

― fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i wouldnt be surprised if its a part of some work, like how that balla painting was used on the series of sneaks cover.

in the end, it looks like a spoon record should look like: minimal and slightly ambiguous.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I think a Spoon album with Phil Collins on the cover would be grebt!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

That photo of Phil Collins is actually quite good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i was gonna mock up a pic of Britt staring moddily, with the band and album names in a similar style, but even i'm not that bored.

but tomorrow i have to work, so who knows?

― fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

moodily, naturally

― fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"i turn my camera on" is the best song on this album.

britt's falsetto, jerky off beat, awesome lyrics.

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

The cover totally reminds me of some ads for a building society. Scottish Widow, but red.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Or they could do a split with the Fake Fictions and call it "Gimme Fake Fiction".
-- Jordan (jordan...), February 17th, 2005 4:14 PM. (Jordan)

Yes.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

i was gonna mock up a pic of Britt staring moddily, with the band and album names in a similar style, but even i'm not that bored.

Looks like I am.

http://www.notempo.com/jpg/spoonfake.jpg

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Suedey, you have called it. that's totally what it's like.

i like it less and less. it's going to be one of those i put in the case backwards. unless the other side is worse, of course.

but let me reiterate, great album.

― fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

dude that's awesome!!! can we send this to the band? maybe they haven't gone to press on the sleeves yet.

― fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

frustration. i'm at work, trying to find a leaked copy on an archaic mac with an obsolete version of soulseek.
but no. can't find it.
but later, with my own fancy, high-powered computing machine, and the newest versions of the p2p favourites, i will hear this album.
and i don't mind the rumoured cover.

― Bruce S. Urquhart (BanjoMania), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

That's not a rumored cover, it's from the Matador site!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Is this the same album that's been appearing on "upcoming releases" lists under another title for about a year and a half?

(And what was that abandoned title, anyway? I forget...)

― MV, Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Album cover looks like a lead photo for a feature in Vogue or something. Sounds like no drop in quality from comments here.

― PiersT, Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

"romeo's apprentice" was one of the titles. i believe "the beast and dragon are adored" was another.

romeo's apprentice is funny because:

spoon's booking agent is jim romeo at ground control. jim romeo has a nephew i went to high school with. [apparently jim is from my hometown as well.] his nephew is his assistant, er, apprentice at GCT. hence, this is as close as metuchen nj will ever get to be referenced in a song/title/etc.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

so -- what does everything think the single off this thing will be?

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"Turn My Camera On" if they want to be interesting, "Sister Jack" or "Monsieur Valentine" if they want to pander to their indie rock base.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

if it were two minutes shorter "They Never Got You" would be the single -- it's got the hookiest beat. But a record label would never go with the best song, right? My guess is "Sister Jack." -- and I see exactly what Matthew is talking about in terms of Wilco. It sounds like it could've squeezed in between AM and Being There.

The album is very strong, but not amazing. I felt the same way about KtM. Girls Can Tell is my favorite of theirs.

― robot mark (robot mark), Saturday, 19 February 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i just can't get into this album.
kill the moonlight was much better.

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 19 February 2005 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i just figured out why.
they sound like the stereophonics on this one.
anyone agree with me?.

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 19 February 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link

OK. i heard from someone over the weekend that the sequencing isnt correct on various websites. i was wondering this too, because "the beast & dragon, adored" is a weird opener.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, you think? I can't imagine sequencing "The Beast and Dragon Adored" on that album as anything other than the first song. That song screams "first song on the album" to me.

"They Never Got You" ought to be the final song, not "Merchants of Soul."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link

That said, "The Beast And Dragon Adored" should be the last song in their main set, and "My Mathematical Mind" should be the first song of every night on the tour. That would be ideal.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

lyrics don't resonate as strongly as they did on Girls Can Tell, but this album is their most groove-based to date and is probably my favorite. I think the single should the "I Took my camera off" one.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't have liner notes so hell if I know what they're actually called. I thought they were saying "Sister Jay" on that one song.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

they still sound like Billy Joel meets Wire.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

The leaked version tracklisting is

1) The Beast & Dragon, Adored
2) The Two Sides Of Monsieur Valentine
3) I Turn My Camera On
4) My Mathematical Mind
5) The Delicate Place
6) Sister Jack
7) I Summon You
8) The Infinite Pet
9) Was It You?
10) They Never Got You
11) Merchants Of Soul

The record has grown on me a lot. I'm really into "They Never Got You," which has snuck up on me from out of nowhere. I still think "Sister Jack" is boring, but I'm fond of everything else. I like it more than Kill The Moonlight, but not as much as Girls Can Tell.

Wow, you are so incredibly OTM about them sounding like Billy Joel meets Wire. That's perfect!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I prefer Johnny Fever's cover to the real one.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

now the spoonies can rank their albums from most favorite to least! wee!

Gimme Fiction
Girls Can Tell
Telephono
Series Of Sneaks
Kill The Moonlight

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Girls Can Tell > Gimme Fiction > Kill The Moonlight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A Series Of Sneaks > Telephono

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

"beast & dragon" sounds like a total closing track to me. those opening piano just sounds like its summing up the action of the record, even the lyrics reference the other songs.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

That makes sense. It would be really awkward if it wasn't the first or last song in the sequence. I think it seems more like an opener to me because of the first few seconds, and how it builds up to that chorus - the way it is recorded and performend, it feels more like a beginning to me. If it's not the first song, I would hope that "My Mathematical Mind" is.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

my mathematical mind: you are 100% OTM, matt.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the real cover~ Neatly references Little Red Riding Hood (Gimme Fiction, eh? Eh?), as for the font, it seems classic, if just a little of step, which is how I think of Spoon, kinda classic songwriting elements, but just a little off-kilter, weird noises, structures and such.

Thumbs Up~

― Yoshinorimike (Yoshinorimike), Friday, 25 February 2005 08:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Avec un peu de recul, this album has definitely grown on me now that I listen to it for the first time in a week. I love "The Beast and The Dragon, Adored" as the opener, as it sets the tone for the rest of the album. There are no *peaks* per se, which is always hard to deal with on first listens, but I really like the prevailing mood of this album. I still think that "The Infinite Pet" is a relative clunker though.

― alex in montreal, Friday, 25 February 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't get the Telephono hate AT ALL - that album has been a touring van staple for us for years

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Sister Jack should be a hit

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

for all those that don't think that "beast" should not be the opener:

when he says "UH HUH, ALRIGHT" if feels like the album is starting!

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

The official Spoon site says that the running order that has leaked is the real one.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

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After its predecessors it feels like an awesome victory lap. Like, "now that you guys have caught up, check this out." And then G5 is like "now that we still have your attention ..."

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

I like that "Beast and Dragon" and "Don't Make Me a Target" are essentially the same song yet don't make each other redundant, somehow

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

"I Turn My Camera On" should be having a comeback in the zoom era

― Indexed, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

i turn my camera on
i take my PC mic off mute

― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

the best ever drop-d metal band called Requiem outta Denton

― the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

listening now, "sister jack" and "i summon you" are all-time great spoon songs

― na (NA), Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link

I think "My Mathematical Mind" is the coolest.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

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