― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
'New York' may well be one the best songs ever as well.
Shame about their horrendously disorganised re-issue/compilation protocol though.
― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link
It's on the Internation Rescue CD (but not the LP configuration).
― Vic Funk, Friday, 1 April 2005 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― That One Guy (That One Guy), Sunday, 26 June 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― That One Guy (That One Guy), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link
BUT,,,,,,,is there anyone w/any knowledge about the never-released Daga Daga Daga lp by Soundtracks and Head? there's that fantastic 12" on Rough Trade--Rain Rain Rain, and a track or two on Collision Time Revisited... to the best of my knowledge the 12" has never been issued on cd, which is a shame! anyway, love to hear more of these sessions!!
― nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 19 December 2005 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 19 December 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 19 December 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, FUCK. I guess I shouldn't have sold my old Mute CDs. To the used bins!
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
1 International Rescue2 Black Velvet (remix)3 Forest Fire4 One Of The Crowd5 Winter Rainbow (Armadillo) I don't see 2 or 4 on any of the other records. Yet another headache for SM completists... Now I'm wondering what's on the Munster vinyl of Jane!
Also, this website is pretty useful:
http://www.televisionpersonalities.co.uk/jowe/swell.htm
― sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 21 May 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 21 May 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― M T (BlackIronPrison), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
really loving this right now. sending this thread to the top!
― htshell, Sunday, 10 February 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Amazing band, of course...but this Wastrels and Whippersnappers CD comp that just came out is a snooze. It kinda re-imagines them as an experimental punk band with none of the pop that made them great.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 10 February 2008 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link
What everyone says, once again. Hmmm. Should dig them out again.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 February 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
agreed... the appeal is the parallel universes they could easily inhabit... only one half at a time would be short changing...
― msp, Sunday, 10 February 2008 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link
that Wastrels CD sure does suck, agreed. guess there was no bottom left in the barrel.
I just turned some musician friends on to them and they are way into it.
― sleeve, Sunday, 10 February 2008 07:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Steer clear of the Secretly Canadian reissues of Jane and Marineville. Even to my (decidedly non-audiophile) ears they sound overloud and badly compressed. The Mute issues are still pretty easy to get a hold of, and they're loaded with bonus tracks to boot.
― hawth, Sunday, 10 February 2008 07:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Steer clear of the Secretly Canadian reissues of Jane and Marineville.
Interesting -- I wondered about that. I'd downloaded "Midget Submarines" sample mp3 from the SC site while at work once and remembered it sounding somewhat different from the Mute cds at home.
And yeah that Wastrels disc was a letdown. I wish they'd pull together the peel session tracks (some were on Whatever Happens Next, some are floating around the internet) and any other radio tracks.
Does anyone know where the b&w video-looking footage from the "Midget Submarines" video that SC put together came from? It looks like they're actually playing MS on television somewhere (based on what I can make out of Epic's drumming).
― city worker, Sunday, 10 February 2008 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link
re: Mute reissues vs. SC reissues:
other pro-Mute-version points are noted earlier in the thread as well, buyer beware.
― sleeve, Monday, 11 February 2008 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link
how about a BOX SET already? just keep packing crap on cds until you hit 10 discs' worth.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 11 February 2008 07:18 (sixteen years ago) link
"Tokyo Airport"!!!! This sounds like some lost krautrock gem or something. So awesome.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
You guys seriously, this song.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
These lads need some proper expanded reissues - there's lots of good bits scattered amongst compilations and umpteenth reissues of their albums.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
weren't there expanded reissues a few years ago? i can't remember. i've just got old copies of these records.
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, Secretly Canadian reissued the two albums proper a few years ago, but wth fewer extra tracks than the 1989 Mute reissues. For example, the Mute version has 22 tracks, while the SC version only has 16 total; the fantastic "Let's Build A Car" is on Mure, but not SC.
So far I have both SC reissues, Train Out of It, and International Rescue. Not sure which of the other compilations I need.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
weird how "let's build a car" is on a video on the SC Jane reissue but not as a track
― da croupier, Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
It gives me a total headache trying to figure out whether I've got everything by these boys or not.
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
this x 100.
There's another Alive comp titled "Sweep the desert", focused on the more krautrock/avant garde side of the band. Hardly essential, but if I remember well there was a couple of tracks that didn't appear elsewhere.
― Marco Damiani, Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i guess i've got the mute reissues?
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Everyone's Mute issues OK? My 'bought when they came out' versions are suffering from disc rot, so I keep looking at copies online wondering if they're more recent pressings or I'm going to open the shrink rap to find a bronzed disc inside.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 21 October 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I *finally* tracked down a CD copy of "Collision Time Revisited" at a good price. I've got the Mute CDs of their two albums - do I need "Train Out Of It"? I'm not sure what's on there that I don't already have.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
probably, that stuff is SO confusing. but iirc there are things on the Mute version that you can't get anywhere else.
― sleeve, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it (Mute version) has "Doomette", "Clear The Floor", "Cave Dwellers", "Dresden Style", etc.
― sleeve, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
My question that killed this thread in 2010 still stands BTW.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
Hmm, I have Train Out Of It and A Trip To Marineville on Mute, I'd better check them later on, then I might be able to answer :)
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 13 February 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
my Mute Jane is fine; bought it when it came out. my Restless C.T. Revisited, however, skips.
― nerve_pylon, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
yeah all my Mute CDs are fine, I have Jane... and Train Out Of It.
― sleeve, Monday, 13 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
Mine are OK too but I realised I haven't listened to them in years so they've gone on my listening pile, so thanks anyway!
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 13 February 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
What's on "Train", demos and early stuff? Is it any good?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
I would say it was essential cos it has their non-album singles on it but they may be on other comps as well, their discography is such a mess.
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Looks like it has quite a lot of crossover with Collision Time Revisited, at least the first half. But that doesn't have Dresden Style on it.
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
Why Tyler you good soul
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/51646809404/swell-maps-peel-sessions-personnel-biggles
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
Wuh....? Without Nikki and Epic, isn't it more like a Swell Maps tribute band? I mean, still, I'd pay to see Luke and Dave and Jowe play together.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link
yeah — seems very odd to be calling it Swell Maps. Could be good, though?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link
Are we sure that Haines is not taking the piss?
― everything, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
I guess "Jowe Head Plays the Music of Swell Maps" doesn't sell as many tickets as calling it Swell Maps, is the reality behind this decision.
― starship blooper (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
Here's the details
It's a bit like when the Bonzo Dog Band did those gigs with dozens of guests and half the surviving band.
― everything, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link
Jowe Head Swell Maps book incoming:
https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/jowe-head/swell-maps-1972-1980
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 16 January 2022 21:11 (two years ago) link
edition of only 1000 copies btw, and comes with a 7" of unreleased material
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 16 January 2022 21:12 (two years ago) link