― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Any more recommendations for the Redman/Method Man collabo? It seems like the sort of album I'd enjoy, but I'm too tight these days to take chances.
― Tim, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ernest, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jk, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Michael Bourke, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― michael, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Supreme Clientele: Ben encapsulated what I like about it really, and I can only refer you to his words. It wasn't a radical-sounding record or a massively innovative one but every moment works and there are no faults or weaknesses anywhere. A thrilling *experience* to listen to: you can't dip in and out of it. For its own territory of hip-hop circa 2000, I'd say the same thing about it as I said about The Life and Times of Sean Carter for *its* field: the defining moment.
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kris, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Implying it's suspect thereafter. I've been pondering whether this is true and if so, why that should be. I decided the implication is probably bollocks. But judge for yourselves. Here's an (ex) indieboy's Top 10 rap albums for the period 1992-2001. I tried to get in one for every year, and also more female rapping, but just failed on both counts - sorry Missy Elliot.
Oh, and those Wu-Tang albums are really dating badly, aren't they? That said, I just bought "Supreme Clientele" on the basis of the recommendations upthread, and look forward to playing that tonight.
1. The Roots - Things Fall Apart2. Jeru - Wrath of The Math3. Fugees (Tranzlator Crew) - Blunted On Reality4. Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty5. Common - Like Water For Chocolate6. Snoop - Doggystyle7. Saïan Supa Crew - X Raisons8. Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy - Hypocrisy Is The Greatest Luxury9. Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Blackstar10. Method Man - Tical
― Jeff, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
As for your list, though - one I hate (Beasties), one I like (Snoop), two I've never heard (or 3 if I'm thinking of a different Saian album) (Fugees and Roots), two I respect but find a bit hard going (Jeru and Meth) and four I found boring (Black Star, Saian, Disposables, Common). And I think that is a fairly typical indieboy list, yeah.
― Tom, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dan I., Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― matt riedl (veal), Sunday, 13 October 2002 14:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 13 October 2002 21:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― blueski, Sunday, 13 October 2002 22:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
What hasn't been mentioned yet? RUN-D.M.C.'s debut?
― Nate Patrin, Monday, 14 October 2002 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 01:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 01:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 02:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
1. Mos Def - Black On Both Sides - Powerful stuff2. Latyrx - The Album - Deep, dark disco rock and mind bending linguistics.3. Black Eyed Peas - Behind The Front - Solid singalong stuff, a lot different to the Elephunky demos we've heard.4. Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand - He's crazy but he's Hip Hop's knight in shining armour. 5. anything by DJ Vadim - as one reviewer recently wrote, he makes it blunted but not boring.
Agreed re: Latryx - classic in my head at least...
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 02:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 02:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
Thoughts on Sage Francis please?
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 14 October 2002 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt C., Monday, 14 October 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― minna (minna), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
Phrenology has leapt onto my all-time greatest list, as has Blazing Arrow. You don't have to agree, this is MY list, cockgoblins! It'll include albums by Latyrx, Tribe, Fugees, B-Boys, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Wu-Tang, Outkast, NWA, Goodie Mob, Spearhead, Disposable Heroes of Hiphopracy, Blackalicious, The Roots, Kool Keith under various monikers, De La, Public Enemy, Pharcyde, Eric B. & Rakim, Del, El-P, Atmosphere, Dre, Dose One, and will NOT include any Jay-Z, P. Diddy, Nelly, MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice...and it's MY list, so SCREW YOU GUYS!
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anyways. Listened to Ill Communication again recently and was startled by how much I liked it. There's so many great little touches the way everyone yawps "we din't start the FIRE!" on "Do It", the weird "underwater megaphone" pseudo-dub effect that shows up on a lot of the tracks (like "The Update"), the whole muddy "rare groove" feel to the majority of the album that feels even more distinct once the ultra-slick "Sabotage" bursts out the gates.
I keep hearing bits and pieces of the Slim Shady LP and I've come to the conclusion that I probably should have bought it when it came out instead of letting my skepticism get the better of me.
Supreme Clientele. DAMN. A lot of the beats on here were already familiar to me the first time I heard this ("Saturday Night"=Pharoahe Monch's "Mayor"; "Cherchez La Ghost" = BDP's "Jack of Spades"; "Buck 50" = er... the Chemical Brothers' "Playground for a Wedgeless Firm") but for once I don't care. I love that insane stream-of-consciousness style and "Nutmeg" is classic x1000.
Oh yeah: Beauty Party. MAJESTICONS TAKIN' OVER IN '03
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Honda (Honda), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― zemko (bob), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
am0n otm although I've always struggled with how nihilistic All Eyez is - Shock G had a great line on "Fear of a Mixed Planet" that ran "his special special gift was his love side/so many tryin' to be 'Pac, but only copped the thug side" but All Eyez is pretty short on the "love side" - there's "Life Goes On" and "I Ain't Mad Atcha" but these are a long way from the "conscious" stuff he'd done before, that political passion took a back seat to G stuff although it's fair to ask "isn't that where your head might be at if you'd just gotten out of prison?"
It's an uneven record but that's some of its strength for me, it's like this huge uncontrollable avalanche of creative energy. Some days though I think "Ready to Die" is better, but I am emo and R2D even when it's pissed off unhinged is pretty tightly controlled, while "All Eyez" is more raw imo and that's what I favor at the end of the day.
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll second Tuomas [...]
-- Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan)
never thought i'd see the day
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link
(also the DOC getting in that car accident and losing his voice is one of the great tragedies in rap imo)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link
i agree. he was great.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
there is more than one greatest rap album of all time. there are a bunch.
Just reading about that in Third Coast, shit was fuckin tragic. How is his most recent record? I hear the voice is coming back a little? xxpost
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Scott - agreed. Especially since 'rap' covers such a broad spectrum of styles, but I love arguing over this.
― humansuit, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link