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― Nice Pete, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
(...30. it should be, perhaps? for Alex fired in, attention span-lessly, Stranglers' "Golden Brown" that had already been mentioned upthread)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:50 (nineteen years ago) link
29. Kantner/Slick/Freiberg, "Harp Tree Lament" (my favorite Robert Hunter lyric)
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― mei (mei), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
21. Elvis Costello - "Sunday's Best"
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 6 May 2004 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link
probably my favourite bit of music to be released last year.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 6 May 2004 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 6 May 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
*OK, maybe not.
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Speaking of the BBs, I'm listening right now, on a sunny day filled with my doin' mostly nothin', to the great "Busy Doin' Nothin'" and it's really a modified bossa nova--I count it in 2/2, not 4/4...classic bossa time signature...
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― Roberton, Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Thursday, 6 May 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link
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― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
hehe.
― Kent Burt (lingereffect), Friday, 7 May 2004 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 7 May 2004 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Moose - I'll See You In My Dreams
― rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 7 May 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Scotto (Scotto), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, not exactly. Bossas and sambas are in 2, not 4. If you count bossas--including "Busy Doin'"--in 4, it becomes a fast 4/8, or 8/8, not 4/4. You can hear the "boom" of the 1 and 2 in "Busy" quite clearly. You're right about it being, at times, a convenience, but in bossa nova it's just the way the music is structured. "Waters of March" by Jobim is notable as one of his few songs that are actually in 4/4.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 8 May 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
We can make room for it by getting rid of "Kiss From a Rose" and "How Can I Be Sure" (and maybe more), which are in 6/8, not 3/4.
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 3 June 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah most triple meter rock songs are in 6/8 (or use a shuffle beat in 12/8 a la everybody wants to rule the world or never tear us apart). 3/4 time is less driving, it can feel a little stilted in a rock context. 6/8 swings, sounds great in power ballads (we are the champions, nothing else matters)
― culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Sunday, 19 January 2020 04:27 (four years ago) link
actually never tear us apart is def 6/8 isn't it?
― culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Sunday, 19 January 2020 04:28 (four years ago) link
I'd definitely say 12/8. The chords change once every twelve eighth notes (four beats), the melodic phrases are built around the 12 (or 4) groupings, the guitar plays at the beginning of each grouping of 12 when it enters.
― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 January 2020 04:44 (four years ago) link
When there is a standard rock backbeat that would be analysed as 4/4 at any other time, it generally seems most logical/natural to me to continue counting it as quadruple metre even if it is subdivided into triplets, so I tend to default to 12/8 in these situations unless there is a really compelling reason to count 6/8.
― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 January 2020 04:49 (four years ago) link
Neil Young's "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" feels like an actual triple metre to me: the drums are actually playing groups of 3, the chords change once every three beats. Agree with "Manic Depression" upthread as well.
― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 January 2020 04:59 (four years ago) link
The canonical text for rock/pop is the recording, and different people can interpret it differently. Heck probably even different musicians who played on it interpreted it differently (such as the drummer vs the singer or guitarist).
(I agree with this 100%, to be clear. Obv there are wrong interpretations but there can definitely be multiple credible interpretations.)
― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:02 (four years ago) link
"Cloudbusting" moves between 4/4 and 6/4, sorry. Remembered wrong.
― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:12 (four years ago) link