R. Kelly - Step In The Name of Love (remix)

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but do you really like his voice? the ridiculous multi-tracking? the way he's rhymed "hotel lobby" with "freak somebody" about 9 times? the fact that he's blotted hov's history forever?

― paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

haha WHY WOULD I SAY I LIKE HIS MUSIC IF I DIDN'T LIKE IT?!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

maybe you're taking the piss?

― andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

maybe you're trying too hard?

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:40 (twenty years ago) link

(haha Tom pls delete ILM) ()

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

My work here is undone.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

damn it that second paren was supposed to say < /old-skool Jess>

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

R.Kelly songs are all sooo good. I love singing and i'm in love with all of his songs. Step in the name of love has been one of the best. Everybody loves this song even my little 3yrs old baby sister. It's also popular on the radio station. Thter's no way i could get tired of it.

― Danier Lucien, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

I think I actually prefer the non-remix album version

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

I love, love, love about 75% of the Chocolate Factory album. Yes the voice, even to the point where I wanna say "Paul how can you not love that voice?" Yes the production. I will even go so far as to say the lyrics are great, though parsing them in print to defend them would be a pretty overwhelming project. Not that I haven't been working on a piece trying to do just that for over a year.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:18 (twenty years ago) link

as to "blotting hov's history," please please please. Blueprint 2 being overlong by about thirty minutes did more damage, as did brazen money-grab 2.1

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:19 (twenty years ago) link

Chococate Factory is unbelievably strong. It drops a bit in the middle, but the 4 first and last tracks are fantastic.

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

I really wish I'd bought this when that bonus Loveland CD was on it. Now I really want it but I'm holding out to find the bonus 2CD used.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

I actually still haven't played it.. Am I missing out?

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

you are. and I agree re: the album "Step" being better than the remix.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago) link

Last night I did the washing-up and sang along to "Bad Man" on my iPod.

this post:

haha do alert us when you've removed the cloth from yr ears, won't you?

proves that Matos IS actually Marcello, thus confirming many of my suspicions.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

haha not fucking hardly, sir.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

Matos,

If MJ's on the outs with fans because his "career for the past 15 years (did someone say 20? 2004 is the anniversary of the Victory Tour, after all) has been one public-relations-puzzle-cum-disaster after another"

then how do you arrive at this conclusion--

"If Jackson wants to save his career, he'll have to start making good records again. Period."

― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:33 (twenty years ago) link

Plus Invincible > Bad

― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

good records trump bad PR, at least in Kelly's case. and Invincible sucks, dude.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

(so did Bad, so it's not like your equation is wrong)

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

also, I was responding directly to the piece Goldstein wrote, which said unilaterally that MJ was up shit creek because he (allegedly) diddled little boys and RK wasn't because he (allegedly) diddled little girls. he managed to ignore a LOT of facts, two of the most important being MJ's continual PR nightmare and RK's creative upswing.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

in other words, I don't think he's on the outs with his fans solely because of the PR stuff--that's a pretty major factor, and it's one Goldstein bafflingly ignored, but I do think people's increasing disinterest in his music played a much larger part.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not agreeing with Goldstein, or disagreeing with what you say about Jackson's PR history, but the "Period" strongly implies that the *only* thing Michael Jackson would have to do to save his career is make a good record.

"good records trump bad PR, at least in Kelly's case"
debatable, but since Kelly isn't Jackson, doesn't prove your conclusion

"Invincible sucks, dude."
See, what hope does MJ have of getting the masses to hear good music when even some of our best critics turn a deaf ear to it?

― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link

this is gonna turn into howard the duck vs. man-thing any minute, i just know it.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

you're right, should've left off the "Period." and Keith, I've heard Invincible--several times, I worked at a record store when it came out, remember?--and it's really, really spotty. ("Butterflies" I'll grant you, certainly, but most of the uptempo stuff sounds like warmed-over versions of the Teddy Riley stuff on Dangerous. and I'm saying this as someone who likes about half--the first half, natch--of HIStory. and most of Dangerous, for that matter.) but I don't recall liking much of ANYTHING off Bad, so again, you're right.

in short, strongo otm.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:58 (twenty years ago) link

also haha the public really goes along with critics, don't they Mr. Fiery Furnaces in My Top Ten = 5 million sold.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

I swear, Fiery Furnaces were just about to go platinum, and then Xgau sloughed em off as just an honorable mention--now everyone's throwing their money at Ramiro Musotto.

"you're right, should've left off the "Period."

Yay! I'm gonna go take a victory lap around the office!

― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 5 February 2004 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

A big diff between R Kelly and MJ is that people are only vaguely aware of R Kelly as a public persona whereas more people probably know MJ for being that weird guy on tv than for writing "Billie Jean" these days. I think there's more in common between MJ and Madonna in terms of how people interface the image and the music than there is between MJ and R Kelly. Interestingly both Madonna's and MJ are still having club hits ("One More Chance" has big 12" sales it seems) despite their inability to chart well at the moment. Perhaps the dancefloor decontextualises their music a bit more (in Madonna's case maybe remixes improve the music too). I think with R Kelly, despite his practice of inserting his persona into his songs through blatant self-referencing, there's less persona-stuff to process before enjoying or not enjoying the music for what it is. His records aren't as much "talking-point" records.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 5 February 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Hmmm - I'm not really following you there. I think RK has pretty much turned into played up the persona thing this year, because of his legal troubles sure, but also through all the meta stuff you're mentionning. Chocolate Factory is a great album, period, but becomes even better when taking into account the whole context, ie. what Matos is saying: RK is completely shutting down the opposition by releasing one career-topping single after an another. The awkward tone of most recent reviews (i.e. 'we shouldn't be enjoying this so much') is the clearest sign of how he's winning the battle.
I can't help but to wonder what would have happened to MJ if he'd used the tracks he was offered and that ended up on Justified. Is he already too far gone or could he have pulled it away?

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Friday, 6 February 2004 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

you don't recall ANYTHING off Bad???

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 6 February 2004 09:53 (twenty years ago) link

He doesn't recall liking anything..

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Friday, 6 February 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago) link

you don't recall liking ANYTHING off of Bad???

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 6 February 2004 09:57 (twenty years ago) link

no.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

I love R. Kelly as an singing, artist

― alyce miller, Monday, 9 February 2004 04:36 (twenty years ago) link

Heh heh. I like how Matos can destroy hivemind perceptions almost casually. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 04:40 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

I AM A BIG FAN OF YOU AND I REALLY LOVE YOUR MUSIC.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND CONTINUE TO MAKE GOOD MUSIC.I REALLY LOVE YOU.

― kelly, Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:21 (twenty years ago) link

Oh man, it's still great. I even have the fucking thing as my ringtone.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

my wife has taken the mystery out of the Googler tendency to address the artist under discussion: she says it's that the Googler believes he/she is signing a guestbook. While this explanation makes perfect sense, it has depressed me, because I was heretofore delightfully mystified by the way Googlers consistently speak directly to the artist.

Did everybody else already have this one figured out?

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

No J0hn, you see, they are all talking to you.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

Very funny Curt1s. My own confusion lay in the idea that there were people who thought "if I write it in a public place, the artist will see it!" and just ran with the idea.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 18 March 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago) link

i'm not sure if that's actually the case--it's still a bit of a weird leap to make

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 18 March 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago) link

my dad seems to like this song. he leaves it on until the end when he's flipping channels.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 18 March 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

i can hear it coming from the living room right now. i'd like to go watch but i'm afraid he might be doing some sort of weird dance to it.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 18 March 2004 03:50 (twenty years ago) link

to be fair, 'stepping' is a pretty weird dance.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 18 March 2004 04:08 (twenty years ago) link

J0HN D I AM A BIG FAN OF YOU AND I REALLY LOVE YOUR MUSIC.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND CONTINUE TO MAKE GOOD MUSIC.I REALLY LOVE YOU. PS YOU GUESTBOOK IZ DA BEST

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 18 March 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago) link

this song is kind of sad, though. I think between this and ignition you can really sum up what's compelling about r. kelly at the moment- even though it's not r. himself who is celebrating anything, he's gonna step anyway.

― rgeary (rgeary), Thursday, 18 March 2004 06:26 (twenty years ago) link

So word on the street is R Kelly was found not guilty re: child porn.

I hope this doesn't mean his creative streak is over.

― djdee2005, Thursday, 18 March 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago) link

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you can be suuuure that......somebody's gonna make looove....night until the day

― horribly jaded internet person who takes nothing too seriously (The Reverend), Friday, 28 August 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's sad
― jones (actual), Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:46 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

clapping in the name of love is lonely
― jones (actual), Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:46 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think i need to go outside
― jones (actual), Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:47 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― pfuckboy (some dude), Friday, 28 August 2009 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

this fucking song

― just sayin, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

i did it for love

― just sayin, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

i think it's sad

― jones (actual), Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:46 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
clapping in the name of love is lonely

― jones (actual), Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:46 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think i need to go outside

― jones (actual), Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:47 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

classic posts

― some dude, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

seven years pass...

what a shame

― groovemaaan, Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

I wonder if Andy K has gotten rid of his record collection.

― MarkoP, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link

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