― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 22 September 2003 16:43 (twenty years ago) link
Didn't realise it was already worth £130. At this rate it's going to overtake my other two 'nest egg' records (Radiohead's "Drill" EP (vinyl) and XTC's "Wrapped in Grey" CD single).
Ned, you might be confusing "Eurocentric" with "Outernational" - Billy's only 'proper' solo album, released in 1992. I've got one of those as well, but it's far too good to sell...
― Marcel Gallingez (Marcel Gallingez), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
it still sounds fresh as hell to my ears btw.
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 05:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:17 (twenty years ago) link
all remastered in the last three years.
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:24 (twenty years ago) link
ned any help on the lyrics?
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 07:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― JC (JC A.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 06:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 7 October 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link
You are to please tell her that my estimation of her has grown even stronger.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link
"Mona Property Girl" (and its superior incarnation "A Girl Named Property") should be pretty obvious...it's a rambling about females being looked upon as Earth-mothers/all-giving goddesses and having tribute paid to them by naming things after them as a sort of worship or as a means of comfort or company (like the song says) taken to silly proportions... ("Mona property girl...Mona property world...Mona office blocks...") I think it's a funny song, probably my favourite by Associates.
― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 25 October 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine has a grenade, that pineapple's not just a toy! (Eastern Mantr, Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
(Though at this second I listen me to "Mona Property Girl.")
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Michael Dempsey gave a cryptic reference to further tracks for release at the end of his brief liner notes for Double Hipness, though I wonder if he was more referring to the still unreleased state of Affectionate at that point. Still though, hmm.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine has a grenade, that pineapple's not just a toy! (Eastern Mantr, Sunday, 24 April 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 April 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
(i love sulk, yes i do)
― joseph (joseph), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
It's absolutely astounding. Björk being a massive fan of Mackenzie's makes sense but in the Sugarcubes or solo I've never sensed her work to be quite as...*searches for the word*...careening, shall we say.
It's also a case where all the stories about the recording and the run up to it, what went into it, what they tried, etc. all make sense. You read PR guff all the time about how some band's third album (which Sulk sorta was if you count Fourth Drawer Down's singles comp as the second) is going to be the Experimental Shift in Style What Is Different or soundbites about 'there were no rules in the studio, we decided to come in fresh' or whatever and they create something with a boring drum loop and keyboard part. Then there's this.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 24 April 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:46 (eighteen years ago) link
There's a double CD of singles WEA released last year with that and "Kites" on it.
Almost picked that up yesterday at Amoeba but it's a bit much for two songs, even with credit -- I did, however, quite happily find the first of the two BBC session discs used, which made me astoundingly happy. Also found one of the three archival rereleases of Billy's late solo stuff that One Little Indian put out -- the organization of it all is unclear, but the three discs are apparently an overview of everything that surfaced on Beyond the Sun, Memory Palace (the Haig collaborative disc) and Eurocentric, plus/minus some songs. Memory Palace has been rereleased with some extra remixes, so I'll skip that, but Transmission Impossible is what I snagged yesterday -- the more 'torchy' songs he did with Steve Aungle and others, I gather. The remaining disc is Auchtermatic, which I believe covers the more electronic/dance stuff with Aungle.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 May 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Fucking hell, they just seem more and more amazing, and I only have Fourth Drawer Down and Sulk! I'm going to obtain the rest once The Affectionate Punch comes out -- it'll be a good time for a Billy Mac buying binge.
― Ian Riese-Moraine is on toffuti break! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 21 May 2005 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine is on toffuti break! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 21 May 2005 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link
It's better than that, though. We should really do a late period Billy Mackenzie S/D...
I'd love to snag Transmission Impossible and Auchtermatic both — I don't know Outernational or Beyond the Sun, but Memory Palace was decent, not terrific. Eurocentric sounded great and got glowing reviews, but went out of print so quickly I wouldn't know. I actually really enjoyed some of the '93 Rankine reunion stuff on Double Hipness quite a bit — nothing like the original magic, but shame they couldn't hold it together.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 23 May 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Maybe someone will recommend a nice convenient accessible song which will change my mind about them completely.
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link
yes! so great! one of my fave 12"s ever.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 00:26 (one year ago) link
Having only discovered the Associates and Billy McKenzie a few years ago (one of those, why didn’t I discover them sooner things) this is sad. Rankine and McKenzie were such a great team.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link
Hey, never too late to realize how great they were.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 02:11 (one year ago) link
I only discovered them a few years ago on a documentary about 80s scottish music. Sulk is by far my favorite thing by them and I really wish it could have kept going with that lineup. Will watch the Glamour Chase documentary soon and hope I can track down his solo albums someday.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 7 January 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link
Do they appear in the recent book Hungry Beat oral history thing on Scottish independent music. Presumably must do. I think the Pop Group do but had a very short look at the book.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 7 January 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link
Very briefly.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 7 January 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link
BA Robertson is so fucking weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhM-nO4Yjjw
― MaresNest, Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:31 (eleven months ago) link