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Even though I like them, I agree that they are too tasteful and timid, at least in the sense of taking any real chances. That last record was maybe the most timid of all, but it struck me for some reason anyway. The juxtaposition of a band doing what it's always done with 9/11-related lyrics has a nice ring to it -- basically that they didn't need to get particularly introspective or revved up to tackle such tough subject matter (which they actually do fairly well), that it fit into their sound without a change, which it does.

I have no idea if RFTC are consciously avoiding being "Too Rockabilly or Too Garage or Too Punk or Too Boogie or Too Ska," but maybe they're trying to be, to paraphrase F. Scott Fitzgerald, a "well-rounded" band, which is ultimately way too limiting. Oh, and their fans do get excited about them, obviously, as the whole Rocket tattoo deal shows.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

So....hmmmm. Maybe they're, like, one of those old early '70s post-garage/pre-punk "we might as well be playing baseball" type bands, like Brownsville Station or Earthquake or the Flamin' Groovies. All of whom, admittedly, I like a lot, even though they always seemed really protective of their pointlessness, if that makes any sense. Which means that if only Rocket From the Crypt could come up with a "Smokin' in a Boys Room" or a "Teenage Head," I might finally give in. Doubt I'd get a tattoo, though. (I wonder if anybody is still walking around with a Brownsville Station tat. THAT would be cool.)

chuck, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Smokin' in THE Boys Room." Duh. (And it is NOT a Motley Crue song.)

chuck, Friday, 14 March 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

"starland vocal band! they suck!"

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ha! Maybe you're right, as the Flaming Groovies are easily one of my favorite bands.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

RFTC certainly do have their hardcore followers, for what it's worth... believe me. I think the apparent lack of intensified focus into any one pigeonhole on the part of John Reis is mainly because that's just his style. RFTC could have broken really big way back in 1992 with "Circa: Now!" and had a legitimate chance, but John was just as dedicated to Jehu at the time, and stuck by it (too bad that was more or less the last time.)..

John's motif of "taking the rock n' roll ride to the edge of explosion only to take a step back when it beckons" has been a cursing and blessing, I think. We've gotten a lot of different side projects and a lot of great music out of it, I believe. (Why does no one mention the Sultans or Back Off Cupids?), but perhaps sacrificing making that one little dent that no one will ever forget?

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 14 March 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

That Back Off Cupids kinda bored me, db. Never heard the Sultans though...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wasn't at work yesterday, so sorry this comes relatively late.

Why Chuck doesn't like RFTC: 1)he don't wanna 2)bassist Petey X is indeed the least effective musician in the band, a big qualm for Mr. Wiggle Hips 3)their rhythm is closer to (in Chuck's Stairway words) Big Black's "jerking" of the beat than most garage rock. It's headbanging music, up-down-up-down. Like Ned, I have to MOVE to it when I hear it, usually by headbanging, pogoing, air-guitaring or pummeling my legs with my fists (leg-drumming?). But I can't really twist to it. But I can't twist to White Light/White Heat either, and he claims to like that...

Easy-way-out-don't-know-what-they're-talking-about critics oft mention bands that LOOK like RFTC when detailing the band's "influences," which is likely to piss off a real hep-cat-the-groove's-where-it's-at guy like Chuck. If the band didn't dress like a soul revue, he'd probably leave 'em alone (in fact, he might like 'em more if they looked like Die Kruezen but had a horn section, just cuz it'd be so perverse). I appreciate Chuck pointing out the lack of BOTTOM in RFTC's stuff, but I think he misses how much they've got on the TOP. There's treble hooks flying ALL OVER THE PLACE in their music, and Camp X-Ray, like Yancey said, is where they finally get as much meat in their lyrics as in their sound (though "Outsider" is painfully incoherent). Though I still feel Chuck would also give them a break if their lyrics were sex-slobber or life-gets-you-thoughtfully-cranky Dag Nasty/Everclear stuff, you know, something he could IDENTIFY with. RFTC may just be too inchoate-or-welladjusted for him p.o.v. wise.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh, and Chuck, I'll second that the fans do get excited. I've never been MORE excited at a show than the one I saw on their "Group Sounds" tour. We're just NICE as well as excited, so we're not afraid to admit weaknesses of the band when a spoilsport comes along complaining that he can't limbo to it.

And I did some J. Geils vs. RFTC spinning yesterday. Freeze-Frame holds up ("Centerfold" is a fine example of how UNSTOPPABLE RFTC would be if the rhythm section was swingier - THE BEST band rather than one of the best), but RFTC wipes the floor with the Atlantic best ofs. Punk inspired, well, BOTH bands to tighten up. And your unproven claims of minstrelsy seem pretty weird coming from a guy who'd rather have us listening to Peter "Whammer Jammer" Wolf.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh, and Chuck, I'll second that the fans do get excited. I've never been MORE excited at a show than the one I saw on their "Group Sounds" tour. We're just NICE as well as excited, so we're not afraid to admit weaknesses of the band when a spoilsport comes along complaining that he can't limbo to it.

Yeah, let me second all that. Been a denizen of the RFTC mailing list that Donut Bitch runs for years now, and they're a fine and dandy bunch over there, passionate about their music (including a lot of the bands that Chuck likes in comparison!) and friendly as hell at the shows even while everything's going nuts. Never had a mosher land on my head at one of them, for a start.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 March 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

So I'm guessing Chuck may not think too greatly of the Hives or Ex-Models, then?

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 15 March 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

shameless (at least 85% shameless) self-plug: I just put up a review of Live From Camp X-Ray on my website. anthonyisright.blogspot.com

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

i just read an interview with RFTC where one of em said "we dont rehearse ever. we always fish together and have bbq's" so chucks "we'd rather be playing baseball" theory is otm

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 16 March 2003 12:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, if you believe a word RFTC says. They're pathological in interviews.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 16 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

As witnessed by their interview on HBO's Reverb...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Sunday, 16 March 2003 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

i dont fuckin know (or care)

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 16 March 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
I just love the art on the new album. That is all for now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't imagine not liking hot snakes.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 October 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

They're quite zippy live

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

it was weird to see Speedo dressed without flair

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

The artwork is undeniably great. The album title Audit in Progress is great. The simplicity of the songs is great. The record is great, too. By "Plenty for All" I'm mesmerized by the Hot Snakes voodoo and require further listening. Probably my favorite rock record of the year.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I LOVE DER HOT SNAKES.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
So I put on my copy of Automatic Midnight today for what I estimate to be my 500th time doing so, and it dawns on me that this album is without a doubt one of my all-time favorites

Yeah, what he said! (He said while listening to "No Hands.")

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 February 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
jesus fucking christ what a good band

pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

no real reason for saying that other than that i'm listening to thunder down under again and just wow

pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

A bunch of folks on a list I'm on were just talking abou them as well. Something in the air.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Abou = about.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

classic! i can't overstate my love for this band.

circa1916, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

love love love
audit in progress my top as my fave of theirs.

I love the thundering bass+drums+guitar "wall" they get.

(in fact can anyone suggest a similar band i should check out now they're no more?)

axelnormand, Thursday, 5 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

you should check out the band that goes neer neer nee nee nee neer neer dada
ROME PLOWS
ROME PLOWS
ROMEPLOWS

Mr. Que, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

This Moment in Black History are a pretty good band with a similar sound, and the singer sounds kind of Rick Fork-y.

Mike Dixn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

such deadly guitar hooks...I miss Hot Snakes.

Chaucer Arafat, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

HOT SNAKES

David R., Friday, 15 August 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

do people like night marchers and/ or obits?

mizzell, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

No

Steve Shasta, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

without the bold red font and the exclamation points it just feels like something is lacking.

chicago kevin, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

so i just learned that rick froberg made his national television debut with the obits on the jimmy fallon program two weeks ago. they played "fake kinkade" and it was kinda boring. then jimmy fallon came out and called them "my brothers" (cause he's from brooklyn, i guess).

iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I think "LAX" pops into my head on a weekly basis

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

L.A.! L.A.!

She Got the Shakes, Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

something about the oppressive low end on suicide invoice is so weird. i like it, but it's a genuinely weird sounding rock record, like it was mastered using some secret NASA-grade technology and now as a result there's this totally out of control, artificial-sounding mix when played on common peoples feeble home stereo systems. juxtaposing it with freakin melodica on the first track only enhances the weirdness.

automatic midnight is sorta the same way, but it's so much more lo-fi that its brutal mix sounds natural by comparison. still, even that album has the distinctive honor of slowly but surely eviscerating the stock stereo speakers in my poor old honda.

del griffith, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Salton City!

grandavis, Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

never as big a fan of these snakes as i feel i should have been. "oppressive" is an OTM way to describe their sound. that suffocating sonic blanket coupled with froberg's unrelenting hostility makes for an uncomfortable listening space, unless i'm in exactly the right mood. have similar problems w early mastodon. makes me feel like that woman with a boot on her head.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

but salton city is a jam for life

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

true, easily one of the top 10 songs to ever rhyme gasoline with deir yassin

del griffith, Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Clearly not as good as Yank Crime was, but really good nonetheless.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

This band, I mean.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Still listen to the three records all the time.

Simon H., Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

discovered that I never got suicide invoice for some reason. *rectifies*

dayo, Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Word is that Rick Froberg is dealing with a viral heart infection right now. Godspeed, sir!

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

good post, del

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 29 July 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

Couple new tracks and a new album on the way

https://hotsnakes.bandcamp.com/track/i-shall-be-free
https://hotsnakes.bandcamp.com/track/checkmate

Dinsdale, Sunday, 16 February 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

oh that Poison Ivy/RS Howard guitar always works for me

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 17 February 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1nvjW-7DM

here's the bag digest of what John, Rick, and Jason (Gar had something more important to do) slipped into their bags when they visited the now-closed am03ba h0llyw00d in early M@rch.

  • James Brown Love Power Peace: Live at the Olympia, Paris, 1971 (1992)
  • Bo Diddley Another Dimension (1971)
  • Battalion of Saints Second Coming (1984)
  • Ethnic Folkways Library Music of Indonesia (1950)
  • Freddie King Let's Hide Away and Dance Away with Freddie King (1961)
  • Bert Jansch Rosemary Lane (1971)
  • Bert Jansch L.A. Turnaround (1974)
  • Parliament Osmium (1970)
  • The Parliaments Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (2018)
  • Träd Gräs och Stenar Gärdet 12.6.1970 (1996)
  • The Taj Mahal Travellers July 15, 1972 (1972)
  • Ali Farka Touré Savane (2006)
  • John Prine Sweet Revenge (1973)

the burrito that defined a generation, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

Stoked that Reis gave such gushing love to Bo Diddley. I love Bo and love when other people love Bo.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

when rick pulled out those bert records i was like oh man you are in for a treat

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

one of the greatest bands of the 21st century. this is one of those groups where i absolutely remember being stopped dead in my tracks the first time i heard them ("Our Work Fills the Pews", on KXLU.)

omar little, Friday, 8 March 2024 17:47 (one month ago) link


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