Which film critics do you trust (if any?)

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Romney is a great read. So is Bradshaw though. I dont see many films so I don't care if theyre right or not.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 08:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

anyway, that critic can't talk: she has actual commercials splattered ludicrously through her text.

Yeah, because that's her doing, not Salon's.

Kenneth Turan of the Los Angeles Times is pretty solid, and deserves respect for having raised James Cameron's ire for panning Titanic when it first came out. Also, Paul Tatara used to do a good job reviewing movies for cnn.com, but it appears that he's not writing for them anymore.

Nick Mirov, Wednesday, 11 September 2002 09:05 (twenty-one years ago) link


>>> David Thomson is the king of kings but he does suffer a bit from Meltzer's disease - ie modern cinema is rub.

Not really: he is always praising new films. His sense of the moral is one thing that sets him apart from many; so, as my editor once said re. Fast-Talking Dames, is his ability with ambivalence.

>>> Bradshaw continues the great Guardian tradition of utterly shite film critics (Malcolm, Richard Williams etc.)

I don't think I see what's so awful about Bradshaw. Certainly Malcolm became a slug, but I don't think Williams awful either.

>>> Antonia Quirke in the IOS is prob. the worst 'serious' newspaper critic that I know abt.

She's still in the IoS?? I thought she'd moved on. I heard her on Stuart Maconie's R2 show (!!), where she was irritating re. S&S Top Movies etc. Is she meant to be foxy? (I am going by comments above.)

Actually, AQ's worst flaw surely = too much casual swearing in print. Unforgivable.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 September 2002 09:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I heard she likes hiphop, pinefox.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 09:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't care what anyone says, Armond White is one of the most interesting critics around.

ryan, Wednesday, 11 September 2002 15:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
thread revival!!

Surprisingly, among the NYT crew, I've really been digging A.O. Scott's writing lately. I wish he'd write about music in the same earnest, bookish way. Seriously! He's great. Elvis hasn't been doing much for me these days. End of year best-of lists comparison!

A.O. Scott

1. Talk to Her
2. The Fast Runner (Atanarjuat)
3. Adaptation
4. Far From Heaven
5. The Pianist
6. Spirited Away
7. Storytelling
8. Gangs of New York
9. Lovely and Amazing
10. Punch Drunk Love

Elvis Mitchell

1. Bloody Sunday
2. Catch Me If You Can
3. Morvern Callar
4. Paid in Full
5. Personal Velocity
6. Spirited Away
7. Talk to Her
8. 24 Hour Party People
9. What Time is it There?
10. Y Tu Mama Mambien

geeta (geeta), Monday, 30 December 2002 07:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I trust Dennis Lim (at the Voice). He's also a very nice person. Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this name dropping thing.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 30 December 2002 07:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't care what anyone says, Armond White is one of the most interesting critics around.

I haven't read him in a while. But I was always of the opinion that he was a good writer and a terrible critic -- very impetuous and hotheaded, and his theories on race were either honest and incisive or paranoid and overreaching, depending on how willing I was to go along with him. The other regular New York Press film critic, Matt Zoller Seitz, is often very good (haven't read him in a while either -- I've kinda given up on the Press because the conservatism over there is getting really out of control).

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 07:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thumbs up on Dennis Lim. And Amy Taubin.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 07:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

André Bazin

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 30 December 2002 07:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, I like Lim too. And Hoberman, of course, is pretty much always solid.

For comedic value, I like these guys. Ever wonder what the 'moral rating' of the film you were watching was?

geeta (geeta), Monday, 30 December 2002 07:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Seitz' review of Gummo = classic.

kieran, Monday, 30 December 2002 07:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Roger Ebert is the only one I trust. Very intellegent, reviews are well written, and although he often goes too easy on some films (pretty much every comedy made by or about black people, he's sure to love, even if it's just 2 hours of Martin Laurence saying "BLACK PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS... AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS!!")

The others are far, far too pretentious... (I'm looking at you Michael Atkinson of the Village Voice, IM LOOKING AT YOU)

David Allen, Monday, 30 December 2002 07:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, film critics and feminists just need to shut up.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 08:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Gilbert Seldes

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 30 December 2002 08:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Atkinson's good, but he's a bit too dry. You can sort of tell that he's a film studies professor.

Ebert can be useful to me occasionally as a buying guide but I generally don't read him for his prose. And Roeper...good god, man, how did that guy get his job?

geeta (geeta), Monday, 30 December 2002 08:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another film critic to watch is this guy -- an ex-boyfriend of mine who's done very thoughtful criticism for some online and print publications (and he's written a few things for Southside Callbox, the webzine I edit). Linked above are two of my favorite pieces of his.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 30 December 2002 08:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

B-but Geeta, Dave Kehr (whoever he is) picked all these nice J-movies:

1. SPIRITED AWAY
2. ABOUT SCHMIDT
3. TALK TO HER
4. PUNCH-DRUNK LOVE
5. TME OUT
6. IN PRAISE OF LOVE
7. I'M GOING HOME
8. MAHAGONNY
9. WINDTALKERS
10. WARM WATER UNDER A RED BRIDGE

Mary (Mary), Monday, 30 December 2002 09:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Rex Reed says The Butterfly Effect "seems to have been written with a No. 2 soft lead pencil on Big Chief tablet paper." Still got it, baby!!!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:47 (twenty years ago) link


BIG PIMPIN

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

SATAN!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

Jonathan Rosenbaum says Julia Roberts reminds him of Raymond Chandler's line from The Long Goodbye: "She opened a mouth like a firebucket and laughed. . . . I couldn't hear the laugh but the hole in her face when she unzippered her teeth was all I needed."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

I like the Onion's movie reviews because they hate just about everything.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 04:13 (twenty years ago) link

Wow, people on this thread gave some love to Stephanie Zacharek, and there wasn't much fuss about it. Last time I mentioned I liked her, a couple people pounced on me. But she can really be quite witty.

I'm realizing, though, that in some cases, I tend to trust publications more than I trust individual critics. When I'm looking for reviews on MRQE or Rotten Tomatoes, I'll click on any critic at the New York Times, Village Voice, New Yorker, Salon, or the Chicago Reader (which is mostly Rosenbaum but sometimes J.R. Jones). Beyond that, I also read Ebert and David Edelstein (Slate), both of whom are the only critics their publications employ.

In most cases, Ebert is the first critic I'll check. Last night, looking for reviews of The Company, I read (in order) Ebert, Charles Taylor, and Elvis Mitchell.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

The only critics I don't trust for a second fall into two very easily spottable groups... a) shameless press junket hoes (alright, this one isn't so easily spottable as it might seem in the day where a critic can risk get fired for writing a positive review for Gigli or a negative one for Lord of the Rings)... and b) neo-con "think of the children" sex-violence-checklist-tickmark-maker sub-Medveds. Unfortunately, there's far more of the second group than I realized (including Mr. Strickler at the Minneapolis Strib).

I like many internet pseudo-critics. And reading Armond White is usually a good time, though more so after seeing the movie. Actually, to my taste in criticism-reading, the best critics are the ones to be read after seeing the movie rather than before. Maybe this is why I don't like reading Ebert so much.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, to my taste in criticism-reading, the best critics are the ones to be read after seeing the movie rather than before.

Agreed. I never read full-length reviews before I see a movie -- only capsules. This, of course, is what makes Rosenbaum such a compelling critic -- if a part of the movie that would ordinarily be considered a "spoiler" is worth discussing, he'll discuss it without apology.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 05:06 (twenty years ago) link

Though Ebert's reviews are generally short and heavy on plot synopsis, there are often one or two unique insights that make it worthwhile. In his review of Monster, he makes the case that Christina Ricci's performance is not bad so much as the character she's playing is a "bad actor." Not sure if I agree, but interesting. His review of The Company is structured around his assertion that it's Altman's most autobiographical film ("Mr. A" = Mr. Antonelli [the Malcolm McDowell role] but also Mr. Altman). Neither of these ideas seem to have surfaced elsewhere.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 05:10 (twenty years ago) link

Ebert's good because he's predictable - if I see a movie (sometimes even just hear a synopsis), I can usually guess his star count. I don't read him for criticism or insight that much, mostly just as a 'reviewer.'

I don't pay much attention to actual reviews until after I see a film. I'm more interested in seeing how my thoughts compared to Zacharek, the NY Times and VVoice people, the Washington Post, Chris Vognar of the Dallas Morning News (my professor one semester) and a few others (though not all of them for every film I see).

I like reviewers who are willing to judge movies on their own merits rather than against some perceived 'greatness' standard. Zacharek, especially, is good at this, and Ebert.

Rosenbaum, I feel mixed. The moralistic tone he takes on some films (Mystic River comes to mind) bothers me. It's too simplistic and black and white for me.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 05:46 (twenty years ago) link

grrr salon movie critics grrr

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah it was you, s1ocki!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

hahaha yes -- zacharek especially...

Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

S. Zacharek and C. Taylor would be OK if they were banned from using the words "deliciously," "scrumptiously," "wickedly" (etc) for the rest of their movie-going days.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

the only film critic I like much is Dave Kehr - I wish he'd publish a book of his capsule reviews, they're probably the best film writing I've read anywhere.

usually, the more I read of a critic's work, the less interesting I find them, eventually. even a lot of Pauline Kael's stuff doesn't hold up as well as I'd like it to - good as the writing is, a lot of her reactions to movies seem flaky and ill-thought-out.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

otm! the word "delicious" I have a specific objection to, it's funny that you should bring that up

(I think for the time being it should only be applied to food, at least until everyone straightens their heads out)

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 07:47 (twenty years ago) link

Oh man, now I have images of Zacharek and Taylor saying "delicious!" and "scrumptious!" in bed together.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 07:58 (twenty years ago) link

Namedrop 101: Roger Ebert used to date my step-aunt (aka daughter of my grandfather's second wife), which I find odd (but she was 6 feet tall and was Robert Redford's PA at the time Sundance was founded).

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 08:40 (twenty years ago) link

"this food is really...searching"

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 09:26 (twenty years ago) link

Ebert had something to do with the Sex Pistols 'Swindle' movie.

Enriq (Enrique), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

He and Russ Meyer were supposed to write and direct. Russ however took exception to Johnny R.'s manners.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

Armond White is the Trife of movie critics.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 18:19 (twenty years ago) link

I'll second Nick Mirov's mention of Kenneth Turan. 70% of his reviews are negative and his criticism of the industry is that there are too many movies being released. I know this reeks of film-rockism but search his reviews before you dismiss him.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

I really have to say I like the critics for the Onion and Film Comment, generally speaking. They're quite thoughtful and not at all mean-spirited in their dismissals. Even if you disagree with them, they usually bring up valid points as opposed to snarky one-liners.

Peter Travers must be destroyed, along with the rest of the RS staff.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

I like the FC crew as well, though I've been having some trouble lately seeing where exactly Kent Jones is coming from on certain films... but he's still a great writer.

Scott Tobias has always been and always will be among my favorite on the internet. Up there with Steve Erickson.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

PAULINE KAEL! WHAZZZZZUUUUUUP.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 February 2004 07:10 (twenty years ago) link

The Onion critics also bring up snarky one-liners as well, that's why they are grebt.

I'd just like to recognise the great opening shot from N., which was exactly my reaction to the title.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 5 February 2004 10:07 (twenty years ago) link

i like Zacharek too. She really attempts to do the whole Kael "judging movies without preconceived notions" thing.

sym (shmuel), Thursday, 5 February 2004 10:51 (twenty years ago) link

Peter Ezekiel Baran

chris (chris), Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

Zacharek's got a girlbody fetish only rivaled by Ebert. But she's probably as good a critic as is out there right now.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago) link

"judging movies without preconceived notions"

Yeah and indeed .

Even if this were possible it would be a bad idea, but it isn't, so it is. SZ might well be the worst critic to have an international profile. I'm no Kael fan but SZ isn't fit to polish PK's glasses.

Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 6 February 2004 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

kael is the most frustrating critic ever, i can't read her at all

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

Oh Paul pic.twitter.com/iBlRvd2Qsc

— Conor (@sadfilmcritic) January 18, 2024

adam t. (abanana), Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:30 (two months ago) link

I need a proofreader here; he needs a proofreader there.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:11 (two months ago) link

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— Cinema Scope (@CinemaScopeMag) January 24, 2024

As Peter Labuza pointed out on Twitter, there are now exactly zero North American magazines devoted to film as an art

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:03 (two months ago) link

(I suppose one could count Film Quarterly yet, but still)

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:05 (two months ago) link

(Ope, Cineaste is still around too)

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:08 (two months ago) link

I had two pieces in there early on. They seemed to become all about festivals and films no one had yet seen at some point, and I lost interest in them and they lost interest in me at exactly the same moment.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:23 (two months ago) link

That’s unfortunate. In general the EIC seems a little insufferable but he did create a magazine as good as if. Or better than Film Comment imo

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 01:02 (two months ago) link


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