BAN BAN
― and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
special poppage unit
l&o virginal intent
Even though it is my own fault that my brain has made a link between Mariska Hargitay and Yoshi's tongue, I am still mad at you, Alex.
― HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link
good Lord people it's CHUNG CHUNG, I thought you had to answer this question correctly before they give you a driver's license in most states
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/goonies_truffleshuffle.jpghttp://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/goonies_truffleshuffle.jpg
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link
All options here seem to suggest that it's the same sound both times! But there's a total difference in what MIDI would call, umm, velocity.
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean, it's got the same phrasing as "ch-ching," if instead of "ching" the root were "dung."
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link
This is my compy's "you f'ed up" sound. DUNG DUNG.
I just watched one last night about a writer in some blackmail circle, was surprisingly good. Second ep I've ever seen and fuck if I need another TV show to zone out to but there it is.
― Abbott, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link
nabisco, sorry, but the metrical rhythm of this sound is definitely spondaic, not iambic
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
QONG QONG
doesn't this sound out as "chung chung" in pinyin?
― gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I think you have that backwards elmo - "ch-ching" would be short-long/unstressed-stressed, in the theme the second beat is harder/longer = it's an iamb
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link
You're right, Elmo, I'm remembering it backwards.
It's almost like a long delay/echo that's been truncated to just two sounds: DUNG-Dung (dung dung dung dung...)
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link
!!!! CONFUSION
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link
you're a dactyl
― remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link
also john and tokyo rosemary are right: it's CHUNG CHUNG.
― remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
J0hn I think Elmo's right! First one shorter but more stressed: DA-dunnng
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Not quite. QENG QENG would be closer to "chung chung."
― jaymc, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
there's absolutely nothing resembling a hard "ch-" sound in it.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
no no! both beats have the same emphasis! SPONDEE.
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&_Order#The_card.2C_and_the_sound
This is accompanied by a tone, which has been described as a "DUN dun" or "thunk thunk" sound. It was originally developed to sound like a barred door in a jail cell slamming shut (Law). In promos for Law & Order: Special Victims Unit reruns on the USA Network, actor Dann Florek refers to the sound as the "doink doink"[9], while Richard Belzer refers to it as the sound of a judge's gavel. According to IMDb.com, it "was created by combining close to a dozen sounds, including that of a group of monks stamping on a floor."
Tomboto was right.
― Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd call it KUNG KUNG tbh
― gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link
both beats have the same emphasis, elmo's right. it's just that first one's overwritten by the attack of the second one, which is allowed a slow decay.
― remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I definitely hear the first one shorter/more staccato but haven't counted the note values so you could be right
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link
ARGH I thought you were saying it was trochaic.
I need to hear this now! I feel there is a definite variation between the two sounds -- length, obviously, but also MIDI velocity! I'm sure of it!
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link
nabisco: follow the link at the top of the thread?
― remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.audiologyillustrated.org/images/spondee.jpeg
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
If it were just length, the second one cutting off the decay/release of the first, it would sound like a stutter, and artificial. But it doesn't; it sounds more like an echo than a stutter -- the sounds are definitely shaped to be different, so they read naturally. The exact same sound triggered twice ... sounds like it.
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't have speakers, so I should probably be quiet for a while.
I think remy's closest - the 2nd one is allowed to decay, which in some ears (mine for example) make it sound like a much longer note
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link
see, i don't hear them as notes, but as percussive beats that reverb and decay.
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link
all audio for television is compressed to fuck because otherwise commercial breaks blow your speaker cones
so the first and second are exactly the same except that the compression bites off the decay of the first hit completely, making only the second hit sound sustained.
it's really not like a big fucking puzzle people. Although I am going to start telling people it's based on the I Ching for "incomplete" because it's used to remind viewers that the show is not over yet.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, with a lot of reverb, the second sound will seem to persist longer, but i don't think they are different in any other way.
― gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
oh wait never effing mind, I am dumb, I'm talking about the opening notes of the theme song. Which are to me "the Law and Order sound." Y'all are talking about the interstitial/chapter-change sound. I think those have identical note values (percussive beats are also notes!) and emphases.
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I love the theme song and its slap bass so much.
― Abbott, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
lol at J0hn
― remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
in my defense I'd like to say that I'm the only guy here who's been to the L&O soundstages and got winked at by Mariska, so catch the vapors
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link
ohhh shiiiiit
― gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
That's just a tympani at the start of the theme song, isn't it?
― Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
J0hn I still hate you for that, btw.
― HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Because Olivia is MINE MINE.
― HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link
you'll both have to share her with Yoshi
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link
MOD NOTE: I WILL DELETE ALL POSTS TO THIS THREAD THAT ARE NOT IN ALL CAPS AND MORE THAN TWO SYLLABLES
-- El Tomboto, Friday, October 26, 2007 4:26 PM (2 hours ago)
LIES.
also, its clearly tuh tung
― John Justen, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Yoshi's Island: Criminal Intent
― El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know man, that's not how things looked when I was WALKING DOWN THE HALL WITH HER YES YES ACCEPT REALITY
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
There is also an ILXor who has touched Sam Waterston, so you might have competition.
― nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link
seethe seethe seethe
― J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
you folks have nothing on THE PEOPLE WHO GOT JERRY ORBACH'S EYES
http://www.gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2007_01_jerryorbach.JPG
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i work for an eye bank and for a sec i was gonna be excited that maybe we got his eyes, but alas. damn you, orbach!
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
what i wouldn't give to know the cell count and death-to-preservation stats on those peepers of his.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Kraftwerk to thread!
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link
ny times weighs in http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/arts/television/04kant.html?_r=1&ref=arts&oref=slogin
― mizzell, Saturday, 3 November 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Great is the truth and it prevails
― gabbneb, Saturday, 3 November 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link
need an iphone app for this
― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
BIG HOOS
― jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha how did I miss "FART BATH" before
― al kaline trio (dan m), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
'shump shump'
― akm, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link