The Hitchcock Poll

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The end card is the most obvious Studio Imposition ever, and so I just pretend it isn't there.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

(oh - maybe 2d most-obv to the framing scenes of Siegel's Invasion of the Body Snatchers)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Strangers On A Train for me. The first Hitchcock film I ever saw and still my favourite.

I saw Torn Curtain one afternoon years ago, I think I was home from school "ill". I remember being surprised at how violent it was. For a film on at 2 in the afternoon, anyway.

nate woolls, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Dr Morbius - what are your favorites?

humansuit, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

birds foreva

Surmounter, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

rope and vertigo are my favorites

and what, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Too many to name, but I make a habit of Vertigo, Rear Window, Shadow of a Doubt, Notorious, Frenzy, Psycho, North by Northwest, the second Man Who Knew Too Much, Birds, Marnie, 39 Steps, Lady Vanishes, Sabotage, Foreign Correspondent. (Few duds aside from Topaz and Torn Curtain.)

and let's not forget "Lamb to the Slaughter."

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow. I totally managed to block that card. Doesn't really change my view on Hitch's filmmaking control, but ... yeah.

Eric H., Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

and let's not forget "Lamb to the Slaughter."

Or "One More Mile To Go" (aka "Test Run For First Reel Of Psycho")

Eric H., Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"39 Steps". I think. Far too difficult to choose tho.

Tom D., Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

(Few duds aside from Topaz and Torn Curtain.)

mr. and mrs. smith also

impudent harlot, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I liked Torn Curtain. The bus! Topaz was a bit of a flop. I don't think I've seen anything before 39 Steps.

Alba, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Oooh watch Blackmail and the original The Man Who Knew Too Much. Both are quite qorthwhile.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, those seem to be the two that everyone mentions. I will when I can! What about all the others, though?

Alba, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and The Lodger I hear talk about. The others, never.

Alba, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

the late sixties films are pretty grim.

Most underrated Hitch: Foreign Correspondent (I'll give you one guess as to why I love it).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

the late sixties films are one film

kenan, Thursday, 6 September 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Topaz (... and Torn Curtain)

Eric H., Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Frenzy is great though. Pity Family Plot is such junk.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

suspicion is the most underrated one.

J.D., Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

ok that's very strange. I left out Topaz from the list. Totally my bad, sorry poll. If someone was actually going to vote for it, we can void the poll. :(

kenan, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Because otherwise, you know, this poll would be official and go on our permanent record.

kenan, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Family Plot is fun! if you like Barbara Harris.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Barbara Harris

Tom D., Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I voted for Rope.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Family Plot is fun! if you like Barbara Harris.

Don't forget Bruce Dern!

C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

For my money, it's Family Plot, not Frenzy, that is the best of his pretty awkward final stretch.

Eric H., Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Perhaps this is the time to once again ask this question.

Years ago, I read/heard someone relate the following (paraphrased) anecdote:

"I was in the street with Hitchcock one day when a beautiful, well-dressed young woman walked by. After she passed, he turned to me and whispered: 'Wouldn't you just love to smear shit in her face?'"

I think it was told to illustrate something of Hitchcock's approach to his film's leading ladies.

I have never been able to find any subsequent confirmation of this story, though I have just remembered that it prompted a thread of mine on ILM.

Alba, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

"Actors should be treated like cattle. Women should be treated like toilets."

kenan, Thursday, 6 September 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

enough with the scurrilous hearsay, off to Cabin #1 with you

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 September 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Rear Window.

n/a, Thursday, 6 September 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

But I agree Vertigo is probably his "best" movie.

n/a, Thursday, 6 September 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

really interested to see how this turns out.

pisces, Thursday, 6 September 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

It will get about 12 votes total, like every other ILX poll.

Eric H., Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

this is toooooooooooooooooooooo fucking hard, esp. since with a lot of the later stuff I've only got my middle school memories to rely on (the Criterion stuff is what I've seen more recently).

da croupier, Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

also, WOAH, I had no idea Strangers On A Train came after Rope.

da croupier, Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm stuck between North By Northwest, Strangers On A Train, Rebecca and Shadow Of A Doubt.

da croupier, Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

[/i]It will get about 12 votes total, like every other ILX poll.[/i]

n/a, Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

You get the idea.

n/a, Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

The problem with Hitchcock: Joel McCrea wasn't in enough of the early American ones, and Thelma Ritter wasn't in enough of the later ones.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Leo G. Carroll was in about 7 though, right?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

like douglas sirk, he worked in hollywood most of the the time, so he had to fit to the genres rules, but he liked it probably, and it made his films as great and popular as they are.

-- Zeno, Tuesday, September 4, 2007 3:48 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

'cept for the 20-odd films he made in england...

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

You mean Hollywood East?

milo z, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Oooh watch Blackmail and the original The Man Who Knew Too Much. Both are quite qorthwhile.

-- Alex in SF, Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:21 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Yeah, those seem to be the two that everyone mentions. I will when I can! What about all the others, though?

-- Alba, Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:23 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Oh, and The Lodger I hear talk about. The others, never.

-- Alba, Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

'rich and strange' is the conoisseur's choice.

the other '30s thrillers are good too.

the pre-'man who knew too much' ones get slept on. but even in america, until the early '60s, everyone preferred the british ones to the flabby hollywood ones. the turn-around came when the publicity budget for 'the birds' was used to pay for a full MOMA retrospective and peter bogdanovich's book.

but even rohmer and chabrol liked the english ones -- they liked 'the ring' and 'the manxman' especially.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

stunned to recently learn he never won a Best Director Oscar

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder if anyone alive has seen The Pleasure Garden.

-- Alba, Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:20 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

i'm fairly convinced it was never released, just trade-shown, in britain. though i have a feeling it was shown in germany. pretty unlikely all the same.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

xp

why stunned? The thriller was not judged to be 'art' by Academy standards, at least not til Demme/Lecter, and Rebecca was considered Selznick's picture (esp since it was AH's first).

When they gave him an honorary Oscar he said "Thank you" and walked off.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Selznick's name on Rebecca's credits are bigger than Hitch's.

Sabotage, based on Conrad's Secret Agent (not to be confused with, er, Hitch's Secret Agent), is my favorite of the Brits.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

"stunned" may be too strong, obviously the academy doesn't have a track record of rewarding quality or innovation or being massively influential ... I guess that given his prodigious output, mainstream success, and general omnipresence in the film world (altho maybe I only see this omnipresence in retrospect) I had just expected that he would've won at least once

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

The four nominated for Best Picture were Rebecca (the only one to win), Suspicion, Foreign Correspondent, and Spellbound.

jaymc, Thursday, 6 September 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

ha yeah, i always forget about that part too, and then when it comes its like a whole extra bonus movie!

watched marnie last night for the first time in a couple decades and man, is that movie such a bizarre misfire. i was enjoying the first two thirds or so just watching these two characters who initially seem super cool and sexy and together, and then the layers get peeled back until we eventually see that theyre both completely twisted walking disaster areas - almost reminded me of phantom thread, love story between two deeply warped people whose pathologies nevertheless complement each other. but as the freudian stuff takes over more and more it just gets so goofy. at the end my partner was like "oh so she bonked bruce dern on the head, big deal", which made me lol in agreement.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 15:20 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

Forgot about Michael Powell working on Blackmail

This was just on, I'd never seen it before, it was good!

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 July 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Yes

Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

To-Night
'Golden Curls'

Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 June 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Saw Notorious for the first time today and as much as I fell for Bergmann, the character I can't stop thinking about is Claude Rains'. Only Hitchcock could/would make me feel sorry for an actual Nazi (notwithstanding John Boyne's efforts)?

What I came to ask: is there a definitive Hitchcock documentary?

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

Hitchcock/Truffaut maybe?

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 July 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Watching Rebecca for the first time in a while, I'm struck by Laurence Olivier's proto-Method performance: mumbles, ear pulling, tossing lines away.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 20:50 (one month ago) link


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