Douglas Coupland C or D

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Yeah Renard I'm not arguing about the done-ness of the technique, just the implication that everyone and his cousin does it, because really, hardly anyone does. I think even your list is reading -- when has DFW ever inserted author-as-character stuff? And even if we sub Foer in for Wallace, where exactly is the rest of the teeming multitude? And much exactly is it a "trick" in most of these cases -- e.g. how much difference does it make to Auster (apart from borrowing some high-lit sheen), and how is it problematic for Foer (who uses it in a kind of self-deprecating way, and its main function turns out to be that the text actually belongs to Alex more so than young-writer-Foer)? And how much of a dent does that make against that other 99% of everything published? I'm not sure it's a significant trend, not unless your attention is focused on exactly the sort of egghead-wunderkind writers most likely to do this kind of thing in the first place. (And you could say "but that's who everyone pays attention to," but I'm not sure even that would be true; there are reviews published every day of a million other things, to the point where saying "everyone does this author-as-character thing" is like saying "all TV shows are about plastic surgeons" -- a couple are, I guess, but not really that many.)

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Corrections:

- "even your list is reaching"
- "And how much exactly is it a 'trick'"

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i loved him when i was 16-18. Maybe one day i will re-read microserfs and love him again.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

but probably not.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think microserfs has aged well. seems to fall into that gap where things are too old to be relevant but not old enough to be provoke nostalgia (does anyone get nostalgic for 486s for instance?)

how JPod relates to microserfs is interesting, same characters(?) but no mention of their earlier life / exploits. (um, read a review recently for some other book that did something similar). ha, object re-use applied to literature i guess.

what did they want the safety deposit key for? did they ever use it?

spent a lot of the book confusing d. coupland with w. gibson, especially 'pattern recognition'. coupland's odd in that i've read 75% of his books but don't really care about the other 25%. i guess i only bought this one because i saw it cheap and the microserfs connection.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

It's funny you should say that because I love Pattern Recognition. What I liked about jPod was the odd autism theories and the crazy parents. Coupland gets very little credit for good crazy parents.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Pattern Recognition is, i think, gibson slumming it slightly in the present. DC is more zeitgeisty, gibson doesn't try to be, i don't think (but sometimes is by accident).

i didn't see anything odd in the autism theories, oddly enough - had thought the same thing to myself for some time (possibly as a result of reading it elsewhere).

didn't he try and explain the parents in terms of being the Greatest Generation or something. or were they just hippy parents 40 years on?

review from the weekend (possibly several weekends ago that i just got around to reading prior to recycling) mentioned John Irving and, whilst dc hiself denies the connection having not read any JI, there is a similarity there, i think. unfortunately i fell asleep before he was talked about on newsnight review.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

In PR Gibson researched well, I think. The autism theories are only odd to me in the sense that they are kind of obvious; suffice it to say I find the book VERY ILX, in a good way.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

koogs if yr really that unterested you can watch last week's newnight review here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/review/default.stm

it's not very interesting though.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

cheers. (starts about 15 minutes in)

they give away the end! 8)

(plus she didn't shoot the biker, it was electrocution.)

koogy wonderland (koogs), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

reading jpod at the moment. i like it. find it hard to stop reading. a bit too knowing with the clever-cleverness at times but am looking forward to reading the rest of his books.

mr x, Saturday, 8 December 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Also, how is there a TV series of Jpod? It's so weird, like The IT Crowd crossed with Ikea and nothing like the book at all.

James Mitchell, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually had a moment of nostalgia and read JPod! It was not good, but all the not-good things about it were like familiar Coupland things that just made me go "aww" instead of "eww." Kind of an "oh, Couplandpaws" thing.

nabisco, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Is anybody bothering with Generation A?

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 October 2009 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Just got it out the library. Not read it yet. Nice yellow cover though (reminds me of those old gollancz sf books).

my name is ὀνοματοποιία (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 5 October 2009 08:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Publishers sent me a copy in August, first time I've ever been meh-ed out by Coupland (whose cursory observations usually bring me out in hives of love but not this time).

edward everett horton hears a who (suzy), Monday, 5 October 2009 08:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I take it that the story is to Generation X what Jpod was to Microserfs?

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 October 2009 08:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i.e. a rewrite with updated references to Facebook and the like.

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 October 2009 08:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Argh, jPod gave me a rash, and since then each new Coupland book has been held in my hands briefly in the bookshop before I think "this will be awful" and put it back.

ein fisch schwimmt im wasser · fisch im wasser durstig (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 5 October 2009 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Bizarre thing about JPod is that the TV series was such an improvement on the book.

treefell, Monday, 5 October 2009 09:52 (fourteen years ago) link

anybody get the custom-designed dustjacket?

DAN P3RRY MAD AT GRANDMA (just1n3), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Bizarre thing about JPod is that the TV series was such an improvement on the book.

Didn't the series have Alan Thicke? I think that was why I was afraid of watching it.

The ever dapper nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

He was awesome in Jpod.

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Generation A left me underwhelmed I have to say. Seemed to start off well and it was a good idea but it just seemed to coast a bit after the first few chapters. Also I wasn't convinced by the characters from different countries, the european guy and the Indian guy were both too stereotypical which irritated me. Fun in places, but overall a bit empty. You know, like life. Ha!

PC Thug (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

45 thoughts on the next decade:

Stupid people will be in charge, only to be replaced by ever-stupider people. You will live in a world without kings, only princes in whom our faith is shattered.

We will accept the obvious truth that we brought this upon ourselves.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/a-radical-pessimists-guide-to-the-next-10-years/article1750609/page1/

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 October 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The day Copeland writes a book about the singularity, I'll cry.

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Sunday, 10 October 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Coming to the ritzier neighbourhoods of Vancouver: Coupland's V-POLES.

Operative word in the headline is "may".

everything, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

I've been getting back into him. (Loved the first four books as a teenager; didn't like Polaroids or Coma and never followed him again.) Read Hey Nostradamus over the summer and just finished Generation A, liked both a lot and actually thought Generation A was great, the way all this stuff that never really added up suddenly came together in a totally unexpected way with the twist. Not a rewrite of X at all.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 04:05 (six years ago) link

Been digging back into Microserfs - always thought his stuff was light fluffy reading but this is kind of a slog tbh

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link

the european guy and the Indian guy were both too stereotypical which irritated me

I really liked Harj (who was Sri Lankan, not Indian). I'm not sure in what ways he was stereotypical, really (although I'm not sure "Vetharanayan" is a common last name; "Vethanarayan" sounds more likely to me). I really liked how he was always very conscious of the stereotypical impressions that Westerners, especially Americans, would have of him, and would manipulate or leverage these to achieve his goals. There were two major French characters and I don't really think "self-absorbed WoW addict" or "sarcastic assholish scientific genius" are dominant French stereotypes?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHZJjXph4kA

Most recently updated DC thread, so for those interested, https://westvancouverartmuseum.ca/exhibitions/rabbit-lane-douglas-coupland is winding up this weekend in Vancouver, BC. Photographs inspired by his _Girlfriend in a Coma_. Ordered the show's catalog for $46 incl s&h to the US.

Was happy reading _Binge_, his latest - brief vignettes flitting around various characters, some interconnected, with his usual witty character observations.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link


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