Eyes Wide Shut

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for all of the films faults the masked ceremony scene is one of the most chilling sections of any movie ever. the masks are freaky as fuck. they make every move of the head or the body so weighted and confusing.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

A dreadful film.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i pretty much agree.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh...good.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

we have to, after all.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Talk To Her

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

:_(

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

no this film is so misunderstood. It is amazing.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Jed, do you like Morvern Callar? Kyle does.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

no i dont - i like the last scene with the slow music and fast dancing but i pretty much hate it.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

good. very good.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I love this movie so much. I keep meaning to watch it again.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 22 October 2004 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm with Kyle. The molasses pace of the dialogue takes some getting used to. If EWS were a song, it'd be Spacemen 3's "How Does it Feel".

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 October 2004 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

wow, tom cruise sTILL is a sucky actor. why the fuck would anyone cast him? whjy does he clench his jaw all the time? is he trying to compete with Scarlett Johansen for the "Lets build a career out of one expression Lifetime Achievement Award"?!

ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Eyes Wide Shut and Morvern Callar are both brilliant.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i just bought "Barry Lyndon" it's the only Kubrick i haven't seen.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Ryan O'Neil is even worse than Tom Cruise, but I think that's the point.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

what?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the word is 'cipher'.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I did not care for EWS at all. The thing that bothered me the most about it was the awful piano score that was going throughout the film. Each painfully drawn out note was like a punch to the head.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

The woman responsible for that lived around the corner from me, in Stoke Newington.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the score! I love slow, drawn-out minimalism.
(xpost)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i still contend that eyes wide shut actually was a 24 hour long film, because it sure fucking felt like it

todd swiss (eliti), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

That's what's great about it!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

BONNNNNGGG

BONNNNNGGG

BONNNNNGGG

BONNNNNGGG

BONNNNNGGG

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

which Cypress Hill tune is that?

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Red Eyes Wide Shut

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I prefer Sinker's "Eyes Wide Sh!t" (I wonder if it's still online?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 23 October 2004 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Ryan O'Neil is even worse than Tom Cruise, but I think that's the point.

yes

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 23 October 2004 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

A friend of mine and I were talking about Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" last weekend. My friend observed that whenever he asked his guy friends if they liked "Eyes Wide Shut", an overwhelming majority praised it, but when he would ask his women friends what they thought, an overwhelming majority said they hated it.

Being curious, I looked at the ratings for EWS on the movie database, and indeed there is a pretty significant gender split, with males rating the movie much higher than females across age groups.

Of course, I'd take the movie database's ratings with a grain of salt, but assuming it might reflect a true difference...theories? Perhaps women find Nicole Kidman's character more interesting than Tom Cruise's, but given the short-shrift in the storyline?

Joe, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

oh dere's tits

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm, I hate admitting that it might be the fact I'm a woman. But I did hate it at the time. The idea seemed terrific on paper but I hated the way it played out. Now, after so many years and having read his biography (well, both Kubrick's and Cruise's), I think I might actually turn around and actually enjoy it. At the time I hated it because it was a late 19th century Freudian book converted to a 20th century story. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? I think I was (maybe still am) very hesitant to praise Freud.

stevienixed, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

I watched it again recently and I was really struck by how AWFUL Tom Cruise is.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

Cruise seems willfully bad in this film. I feel like Kubrick must have directed him to be so incredibly flat for a purpose. In a way it feels appropriate, as the doctor is dreaming all these scenes and he is not really functioning as an agent. Rather, this action is happening to him, and his blankness can be seen as an indicator of his remove.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

it was a late 19th century Freudian book converted to a 20th century story.

Still seemed very 19th-century Viennese to me (under the veneer, where it counts).

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

to be honest, i never thought his performance was that bad and i've seen it many times. i see how it could be seen as flat though -- that seems to be his attempt to act dumbstruck by what's happening to him, which actually does lack depth.

but nicole kidman is awesome to watch in this -- it's the sort of unstable character she knows how to play.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

also um yeah the boys like this movie cuz there are like, 40 naked women in it?

Surmounter, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

only in the newly available Euro version.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

Dr, I don't agree, really, the story was transposed to Hollywood/LA. I shoudl see it again. I'm relying on my (crappy) memory. What I now realize: how painful it is to see their marriage fall apart on screen. Very weird and, in a way, painful.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

It's set in New York! An invented Kubrickian one, of course.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

at the same time that you were more dear to me than ever, i would have given everything -- everything -- for just one moment

with him

Surmounter, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

xpost with HOLLYWOOD ACTORS. :-) Yes, yes, I know,you're right.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

Men are more likely to be kubrick fanboys would prob answer the question as to why men like it better.

Regarding cruise: movies like ews always make me feel sort of confused when people criticize performances. I don't have any idea if a performance is good or not. Why criticize cruise and not, say, an actor in a bresson film?

Which is to say, that all talk about the goodness or badness of a performance seems to be ignoring the very large gap between intention and effect. I am always dumbfounded when asked to consider the quality of a performance and I don't quite know how to resolve that.much of the time people's responses to an actor seem to involve either massive amounts of projection or a sort of consumer choice as to whether you find the actor generally palatable.

ryan, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:26 (eleven years ago) link

if you don't have the 2.5 hours free to watch EWS then just watch the video for Laura Branigan's "Self Control" which is the same plot and many of the same shots but is like 5 minutes long, predates EWS by 15 years and has a really cool song over it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZtn9AwgfQQ

jed_, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

"I don't have any idea if a performance is good or not."

i find this truly bizarre. i can watch any old crap if the performances are good. acting seems to vary wildly in quality, to me, and that's not just projection.

jed_, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:53 (eleven years ago) link

But how do you know it's good? I don't get it :/

ryan, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

how do you know ANYTHING's good? most stuff ilx talks about is subjective

Surmounter, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:03 (eleven years ago) link

how do you know a shot is well framed or that dialogue is good?

xpost

jed_, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

surmounter, watch that video. you will thank me.

jed_, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

guys maybe women don't like it because it's about a dude cheating on his wife?

gabbneb, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:06 (eleven years ago) link

you have always been the caretaker, Mr Collier

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 19:56 (one month ago) link

this is prob my favorite kubrick movie bc i'm a dumbass. barry lyndon #2

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:34 (one month ago) link

my boring opinion is that kubrick's films are all at least good

i mean, even fear and desire isn't really that bad for what it is

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:02 (one month ago) link

I’m with Brad

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:19 (one month ago) link

'fraid so

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 September 2019 21:30 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

infilitrating one of those eyes wide shut secret masked sex parties but just for the music

— ▀▀▀▀▀▀ (@immolations) October 17, 2019

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:47 (two days ago) link

lol "no you don't understand, I only go to those parties to see Nick Nightingale play"

flappy bird, Thursday, 17 October 2019 04:07 (two days ago) link


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