Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story: classic or what?

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Okay, I finally saw this last week. If that's the best student film ever, the rest must be pretty goddamm dire (which I can believe). Even if the murkiness is supposed to make a point about the longing for invisibility I and other women have felt while subject to the male gaze.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

the subjective ipecac-downing shots!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

soooooooo classic

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

really really really great.

f--gg (gcannon), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

are you sure the "murkiness" wasn't from watching an nth-generation video dub recorded in ep mode or something?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

If that's the best student film ever, the rest must be pretty goddamm dire (which I can believe).

Believe it.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

i liked it. not as good as dottie gets spanked though. but i guess superstar would fall under the "juvenilia" category.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

One word: montage!

The camera angles, lighting, and sets are amazing. And thematic use of the songs is tremendous. The story arc is totally played through the music selection. "Masquerade" at the party was especially brilliant.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

are you sure the "murkiness" wasn't from watching an nth-generation video dub recorded in ep mode or something?

This was from the Illegal Art DVD, and it seemed to be a relatively clean copy. (It was screened as one organization's response to National Copyright Week.)

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 24 March 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

This is up on google video now, btw. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=622130510713940545#

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm just watching it for the first time.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

It was neither as good as made out to be in this thread nor as bad. I appreciate what Haynes put into it, though. And yes, it was dark. I had no idea going in that it was going to be so serious. I thought it was going to be sarcastic, and am kind of relieved that it wasn't.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link

you didn't find any sarcasm inherent in the use of barbie dolls to represent all the characters in the film?

sarahel, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought it would be that way going in, but the dolls were actually treated with an odd reverence.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

sure - there was ambivalence, it was a bit challenging

sarahel, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rACJWPd3VnI

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 20 January 2013 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

nine years pass...

Apparently a program of Todd Haynes "rarities" at UCLA this weekend included 4K restorations (with Sundance and UCLA support) of Superstar and Dottie Gets Spanked. (Haynes' pandemic project?) Did anyone here see this program?

There are also rumblings of a Criterion edition of Velvet Goldmine. While Superstar would make a pretty sweet bonus/easter egg, the consensus is that this could NOT be done legally in the US.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

Superstar exists better as a cult object/circulated tape tbrr


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