You Want Superman Revamp? [Also the Man of Steel (2013) thread]

I know they made an animated one, but still

this is surprisingly good! that particular issue/storyline is not in it though

Superman has killed Zod in the comics, too. Post-Crisis Superman, no less:

The first Zod to be introduced following Crisis on Infinite Earths was the Zod of a Pocket Universe; this allowed for a "Kryptonian" Zod to be introduced while maintaining Superman's status as the last of his race in the universe proper. This Zod came from a Krypton in a pocket universe created by the Time Trapper. He (along with companions Quex-Ul and Zaora) devastated the Earth of that universe following the death of its Superboy, despite the best efforts of a Supergirl created by this world's heroic Lex Luthor. Eventually, the survivors of this world managed to contact the Superman of the main universe to help them, and he was able to take away the powers of the three super-criminals with Gold Kryptonite (since he was not from that universe, the Kryptonite of that reality would have no effect on him). However, as the three vowed to some day regain their powers and return to Superman's world to kill him, acknowledging that he couldn't afford to leave them on the now-dead pocket Earth to let them die on their own or try and imprison them on his world, Superman was forced to execute them with Kryptonite.[4]

he appears to kill Zora in the Superman II too (throws her into a crack in the Fortress of Solitude iirc) but that's kinda not as bad as the whole GENOCIDE thing

we can debate the morality of death-by-kryptonite and death-by-neck-snapping, the latter seems a bit more viscerally violent imho but whatevs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBO0Cluv_o

most reviews saying it's spectacular but un-fun. needs more Richard Pryor in a pink shawl ski-ing off skyscrapers.

i feel this movie is going to revolt me on every level

So you're going tonight, then?

I can't understand anyone over 35 going to see this Zod when Terence Stamp's Zod exists.

it's like some dope "rebooting" Wrath of Khan and casting Judi Dench as Khan.

oh idk Michael Shannon's presence is about the only thing I find appealing

Yeah, Michael Shannon is not the problem here.

Amy Adams is no Margot Kidder, more like.

shan-zod is gonna be the hotness, p. pumped

http://superman.rossiters.com/images/s2_510-01_480.jpg

they should have brought terrence stamp back in a "the limey" style for this one, with supes featuring only tangentially

kneel before zerg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8cHljx-Zkw

they should have brought terrence stamp back in a "the limey" style for this one, with supes featuring only tangentially

"You tell Jor-El I'm fucking COMING!"

Would watch.

Superman has killed Zod in the comics, too. Post-Crisis Superman, no less:

Yes, Zod had killed everyone in the alternate universe, and Superman couldn't risk Zod finding a way to his universe and killing everyone there. And then there was lots of guilt stuff (he underwent a kind of personality split, and would, while not being aware of it, become a violent vigilante called Gangbuster (I think. Something like that)) and he decides he's too dangerous for earth and exiles himself.

Dunno if that's the exile he returns from in Superman Returns - would be some odd movie chronology, assuming we're meant to take the films as sequels in time.

seems to have been filmed by an easily distracted child or sentient garden hose

lol

more lolz

Mr. Snyder, with his characteristic lack of subtlety, hits the Jesus angle amusingly hard, primarily in a later scene in which Superman — framed by a stained-glass tableau of a supplicating Jesus draped in a red robe — consults with a priest in a church.

I laughed at that and then remembered that scene actually happened in the movie for real and laughed again.

Okay, that one reads like that parody site's list of plot glitches in "Prometheus II."

Dunno if that's the exile he returns from in Superman Returns - would be some odd movie chronology, assuming we're meant to take the films as sequels in time.

― the so-called socialista (dowd), Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:11 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well Returns is supposed to follow Superman II, so it kinda fits right? Never got around to watching it.

yeah i never saw that one either -- any good?

if you want to see superman act like a dude on maury povich

it's a movie about a guy who fucked his crush, flew away for five years, came back and returned to pining for her behind an alias, oblivious to the fact that he'd knocked her up. when he finds out, he goes back to space.

superman returns has some ardent defenders but i dunno, i just dont get the appeal. maybe i need to see it again

what cracks me up about this new movie is it sounds like they realized they needed more over-the-top action visuals, but wound up with just as off-key a story

I probably brought this up in the thread already but Tarantino claims to have written an extremely long essay defending Superman Returns and considers it a masterpiece

dude also said green lantern was one of his favorite films of 2011

his favorite recent Woody Allen movie is the Jason Biggs one

Superman Returns is okay I guess, but Kevin Spacey is awful as Luthor. Parker Posey is great tho

lol green lantern

spacey's hamming as luthor was one of the few things i enjoyed iirc

superman returns has some ardent defenders but i dunno, i just dont get the appeal. maybe i need to see it again

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:37 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've read a few new skool critics repping for it based on a lot of factors that seem to have zero to do with nor make up for the energy-free directing and the fact that the brandon routh characterization of superman is basically exhibit A for people who call superman a generally boring superhero.

Liked SR quite a bit, and probably for many of the reasons it "flopped." The scene where his son suddenly acquires his powers and crushes one of Luthor's henchman was incredible, mostly due to its long Kubrickian setup. I doubt this new film will contain anything even remotely equivalent.

wow i saw that movie and i have no memory of anything in it

something about superman watching lois lane walk around her house or something?

The Film Freak Central review confirms every expectation I've had about this since it was announced.

:(

It’s hard to believe that any actor could compete with Terence Stamp’s dandified turn as Zod in the 1978 “Superman,” but Mr. Shannon, delightfully embracing gnashing-teeth villainy, proves one of the new film’s strengths

http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/movies/man-of-steel-depicts-a-striving-stranger-in-a-strange-land.html?ref=arts&pagewanted=2

Throwing down the gauntlet to Armond, I guess.

"
A version of this review appeared in print on June 14, 2013, on page C1 of the New York edition with the headline: Part Man, Part God, All Hunk .
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spacey's hamming as luthor was one of the few things i enjoyed iirc

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

ya he's perfect casting as luthor! can't imagine any other circa-now actor in that role tbh

Friends of mine took their son to see Iron Man 3 and were surprised how violent it was. I mean, it's innately violent material, but there's a visceral quality to it. That seems to be all that these superhero reboots bring. A lack of innocence reflected in a rise from cartoon violence (baddies get "shot" by laser blast, fall down) to the real stuff. Blood, bullets, broken necks/backs ...

(Henry Cavill, playing Supes as Wolverine)

Michael Shannon would have made a better Luthor than Zod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvkDcrbLP2s

adults not wanting to let go of their childhood superhero stories means we get movies like this to some extent, I think.