defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

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i think there are certain writers who do write as if they are the only writer you read but idk if glenn greenwald is one. he's, yknow, a channel.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link

i guess no good writer would write that way.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

sad libs

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

in 10 years the front page of the nyt will be nothing but crowdsourced mad libs

iatee, Friday, 14 June 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

Glenn Greenwald, a dominant hero for the Guardian, whose writing has been described as erotic, revealed orgasmic new information regarding the NSA and its surveillance programs last week.

- A humble student from Michigan

Mordy , Friday, 14 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

this is the saddest media thing I've ever seen, and last week I saw this: a thread for local TV news insanity

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

we have a thread for the guardian. load all messages for ten years of increasing disillusionment.

caek, Sunday, 16 June 2013 09:16 (ten years ago) link

I think he is a bad writer but I agree with most of the points he makes.

― Michigan seems like a dream to me now (Treeship), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:41 PMBookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

*rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, 16 June 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

^^He went from lawyer to blogger to journalist without ever really having an editor.

mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link

^^^ tagline of Greenwald biopic

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 June 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

GG is a fine writer imo, i'd take his dogged earnestness over a dozen jaded quipsters like alex pareene any day

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 June 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

i.f. stone was not a great stylist either, yknow

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 June 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

As a lover of both, not a good comparison.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

pareene could stand to ditch the bloggy voice (this goes for almost everyone who blogs) but he's always a good read

actually i really like pareene, he's not the best example, just the first one that popped to mind.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 June 2013 07:19 (ten years ago) link

How much do you want to bet that before the summer is out we'll be saying stuff like "Wow, you'd think Greenwald would've known to not take his car down a canyon at night. SMH I guess he really liked to live on the edge."

Cunga, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

hmmmmmm nope

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link

Richard Clarke, the former chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council, believes that Hasting’s death may have been the result of a cyberattack on his car.

http://www.ibtimes.com/michael-hastings-car-hacking-theory-latest-attempt-explain-suspicious-death-richard-clarke-says#

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link

do you guys even think Obama knows who michael hastings is

iatee, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link

Sure. He reads Andrew Sullivan.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link

oh no buzzfeed is turning against me I guess I have to kill some people

iatee, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link

maybe the white house should start an animated gif department to counter buzzfeed's gaining influence, also then they won't have to kill so many journalists

iatee, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link

when the us govt wants to get rid of a journalist it doesnt kill him it tries to leverage access w/ other papers and influential ppl to discredit him and prevent him from getting a job. and maybe he kills himself later or something, but it doesnt matter.

when it wants to kill a us citizen it connects him with terrorism and sends a drone in

it doesnt... hack... his car. i mean the sort of willful disregard of the actually weirdly open and transparent workings of power here, which hastings himself had mentioned in the past!

like, if someone said, the MOB took him out, i might buy that?

without even knowing hastings it seems p clear that the poor guy was strung out and paranoid in the final weeks of his life, not hard to end up crashing your car at 4am in a state of mind like that

i suppose you could arrange a kind of aaron swartz style path of causation. but the fbi wasnt investigating him.

max, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link

max is only saying this so he doesn't get killed

iatee, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

max u better check the firewall on yr kick scooter

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

that being said i guarantee you obama knows who hastings is. hastings is the reason he fired mcchrystal!

max, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

Max this is exactly what the government wants you to think, that it won't go down like this. Think abt it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link

guys you realize richard clarke sees cyberattacks EVERYWHERE right? i mean if you're looking at one individual to point at as to why we have this ridiculously large cyber intel infrastructure now clarke's yr man.

balls, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

guys i dont think the government killed michael hastings or will try to kill gg or snowden ftr

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

i just think its sort of insane and lol that ~richard clarke~ implied this

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link

guys

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

i mean give the guy credit for blasting the bush admin's incompetence leading to 9/11 (condi rice hadn't even heard of al qaeda on 9/11, head of the fucking nsa) and their immediate (as in 9/12) move to focus on iraq but he's the classic case of maslow's hammer. dude was still beating the 'cyberattacks is the terrorism, WE MUST DIRECT ALL EFFORTS TOWARD FUTURE CYBERWARS!' drum after 9/11 (when it seemed pretty apparent that 'splosions would probably remain the terrorism of the near future at least).

balls, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link

here comes the character assassination: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/greenwald-reporter-broke-nsa-story-lawyer-sued-porn-biz-article-1.1383448

Gukbe, Thursday, 27 June 2013 05:17 (ten years ago) link

Haas said he called the deal off because Greenwald was “demanding changes to the content of the videos which were and are unacceptable.”

suits thinking they have artistic talent smh

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 June 2013 05:46 (ten years ago) link

In a 2003 lawsuit, he and his then partner, Werner Achetz, were sued by their West Side condo board for having a dog that was bigger than building by-laws allowed.

oh man Glenn I take back everything nice I ever said about you

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link

most damning is that his consulting company was called Master Notions

chinavision!, Thursday, 27 June 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link

Bit of a fluff piece but worth reading. His family grew up 25 miles north of me.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/how-glenn-greenwald-became-glenn-greenwald

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 June 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

i haven't read greenwald in years but what other journalists are trying to do to him is fucking gross

J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 June 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

the hagiography should make up for it

Mordy , Saturday, 29 June 2013 02:06 (ten years ago) link

not really

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 29 June 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link

Daily News article is bizarre, but I guess Daily News is bizarre.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 29 June 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

This is pretty tremendous: http://youtu.be/Uulv4ve6RJ8

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 29 June 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

have to admit i was pleasantly surprised he kept the conference on his schedule after all this stuff broke, i thought he might bail to avoid "zomg look greenwald is a socialist" bs

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 30 June 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

socialist, libertarian, whats the difference

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

step 1 spend your life promoting government paranoia step 2 socialism

iatee, Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

heh, yeah, i remember that wiki article really blowing my mind in 10th grade

flopson, Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

it's....not a very coherent ideology

iatee, Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

kinda bummed that a hoos thought he had to post that for me tbh

k3vin k., Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link


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