defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

you're right, focusing on your area of expertise as a writer clearly means an 'autistic' lack of interest in anything else

Weird almost autistic inability to read a sentence?

Which Greenwald cohort? Snowden? Where does he (or whichever "cohort" you are talking about) express views as you suggest? Can you flesh out your varying types of fascism argument?

Maybe I missed something upthread.

Cohort is a plural, curmudgeon.

Ah, it is. So who's in this group?

What are you talking about MV? What other types of fascism?

Sorry i see now curmudgeon's covered those questions

Greenwald cohort seem to possess a belief that only the rich or privileged can be evil, and a weird almost autistic inability to recognize cultural or ideological (non-economic) fascism.

so sick of people calling Greenwald autistic.

Islamofascism, d00ds. Ever think about THAT, u aspie fux?

― MV

i remember a while back a bunch of prominent liberal bloggers decided that greenwald was obviously a libertarian because he 'never wrote about labor issues.'

i think there are certain writers who do write as if they are the only writer you read but idk if glenn greenwald is one. he's, yknow, a channel.

i guess no good writer would write that way.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/14/glenn-greenwald-reader-profile-interactive#615

what the hell

sad libs

in 10 years the front page of the nyt will be nothing but crowdsourced mad libs

Glenn Greenwald, a dominant hero for the Guardian, whose writing has been described as erotic, revealed orgasmic new information regarding the NSA and its surveillance programs last week.

- A humble student from Michigan

this is the saddest media thing I've ever seen, and last week I saw this: a thread for local TV news insanity

we have a thread for the guardian. load all messages for ten years of increasing disillusionment.

I think he is a bad writer but I agree with most of the points he makes.

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otm

^^He went from lawyer to blogger to journalist without ever really having an editor.

^^^ tagline of Greenwald biopic

GG is a fine writer imo, i'd take his dogged earnestness over a dozen jaded quipsters like alex pareene any day

i.f. stone was not a great stylist either, yknow

As a lover of both, not a good comparison.

pareene could stand to ditch the bloggy voice (this goes for almost everyone who blogs) but he's always a good read

actually i really like pareene, he's not the best example, just the first one that popped to mind.

How much do you want to bet that before the summer is out we'll be saying stuff like "Wow, you'd think Greenwald would've known to not take his car down a canyon at night. SMH I guess he really liked to live on the edge."

hmmmmmm nope

Richard Clarke, the former chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council, believes that Hasting’s death may have been the result of a cyberattack on his car.

http://www.ibtimes.com/michael-hastings-car-hacking-theory-latest-attempt-explain-suspicious-death-richard-clarke-says#

do you guys even think Obama knows who michael hastings is

Sure. He reads Andrew Sullivan.

oh no buzzfeed is turning against me I guess I have to kill some people

maybe the white house should start an animated gif department to counter buzzfeed's gaining influence, also then they won't have to kill so many journalists

when the us govt wants to get rid of a journalist it doesnt kill him it tries to leverage access w/ other papers and influential ppl to discredit him and prevent him from getting a job. and maybe he kills himself later or something, but it doesnt matter.

when it wants to kill a us citizen it connects him with terrorism and sends a drone in

it doesnt... hack... his car. i mean the sort of willful disregard of the actually weirdly open and transparent workings of power here, which hastings himself had mentioned in the past!

like, if someone said, the MOB took him out, i might buy that?

without even knowing hastings it seems p clear that the poor guy was strung out and paranoid in the final weeks of his life, not hard to end up crashing your car at 4am in a state of mind like that

i suppose you could arrange a kind of aaron swartz style path of causation. but the fbi wasnt investigating him.

max is only saying this so he doesn't get killed

max u better check the firewall on yr kick scooter

that being said i guarantee you obama knows who hastings is. hastings is the reason he fired mcchrystal!

Max this is exactly what the government wants you to think, that it won't go down like this. Think abt it.

guys you realize richard clarke sees cyberattacks EVERYWHERE right? i mean if you're looking at one individual to point at as to why we have this ridiculously large cyber intel infrastructure now clarke's yr man.

guys i dont think the government killed michael hastings or will try to kill gg or snowden ftr

i just think its sort of insane and lol that ~richard clarke~ implied this

guys

i mean give the guy credit for blasting the bush admin's incompetence leading to 9/11 (condi rice hadn't even heard of al qaeda on 9/11, head of the fucking nsa) and their immediate (as in 9/12) move to focus on iraq but he's the classic case of maslow's hammer. dude was still beating the 'cyberattacks is the terrorism, WE MUST DIRECT ALL EFFORTS TOWARD FUTURE CYBERWARS!' drum after 9/11 (when it seemed pretty apparent that 'splosions would probably remain the terrorism of the near future at least).

here comes the character assassination: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/greenwald-reporter-broke-nsa-story-lawyer-sued-porn-biz-article-1.1383448

Haas said he called the deal off because Greenwald was “demanding changes to the content of the videos which were and are unacceptable.”

suits thinking they have artistic talent smh

In a 2003 lawsuit, he and his then partner, Werner Achetz, were sued by their West Side condo board for having a dog that was bigger than building by-laws allowed.

oh man Glenn I take back everything nice I ever said about you

most damning is that his consulting company was called Master Notions

Bit of a fluff piece but worth reading. His family grew up 25 miles north of me.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/how-glenn-greenwald-became-glenn-greenwald

i haven't read greenwald in years but what other journalists are trying to do to him is fucking gross

the hagiography should make up for it