http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jun/11/man-steel-hollywood-break-superheroes
Yes, yes, yes again.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link
wow joe queenan got old huh
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
You wake up awesome. Not because you did something special like beat Hitler or cure polio. All you did was wake up. And suddenly you were awesome. It is the dream of the fame-hungry X Factor generation.
Yes, it's true. Superheroes have never been popular with any other generation.
I do, however, love "Is nothing sacred? No."
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
Superhero movies are made for a society that has basically given up. The police can't protect us, the government can't protect us, there are no more charismatic loners to protect us and the euro is defunct. Clint Eastwood has left the building. So let's turn things over to the vigilantes.
this is a joke, right?
I have not been able to figure out whether the Dark Knight can actually fly
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link
out-denbys denby. pray you avoid it.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link
it's weird tho bc queenan didn't used to be insane i don't think
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 05:06 (ten years ago) link
the vigilantes are finally welcome now that dirty harry is gone
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link
http://manofsteelresources.com/
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 05:24 (ten years ago) link
Not all superheroes are Republicans, but most of the movies are. Republicans, that is.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 11:40 (ten years ago) link
http://www.charlierose.com/images_toplevel/content/11/1153/clip_11531_460x345.jpg
"Superhero movies are made for a society that has basically given up. The police can't protect us, the government can't protect us, there are no more charismatic loners to protect us and the euro is defunct. Clint Eastwood has left the building. So let's turn things over to the vigilantes."
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link
uh, Eastwood freq played a vigilante w/ a badge
othwise Queenan otm
also stop going to these fucking movies
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link
Man of Steel didn't sexualize Superman enough.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:23 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
lol i was gonna say
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
I guess Dirty Harry did manage 3 weeks at #1, after all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_1971_box_office_number-one_films_in_the_United_States
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
But so did And Now for Something Completely Different.
I'm more amazed that said Monty Python film did that well!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
I just seriously don't get how someone can decry the fascistic potential of the superhero-as-savior concept and in the same breath lament that "there are no more charismatic loners to protect us." What is he even asking for?
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
wait, who's saying that
― Nhex, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
I know it was already quoted twice but since you asked
Dirty Harry was not a "vigilante" as such. He was a pissed-off cop, and after the first movie he was a very by-the-book kind of guy. Magnum Force is about him stopping other guys from doing just what he did in Dirty Harry!
Paul Kersey in Death Wish was a vigilante.
― hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, he's saying the lament is coming from the audience he's attacking here.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/The_outlaw_josey_wales.jpg/220px-The_outlaw_josey_wales.jpg
guy looks pretty lawful to me
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
DJP: no prob, i spaced and missed it both times... i need more sleep
― Nhex, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
that queenan piece is such a bummer, weird to see him be so muddled and earnest about a subject he was so entertainingly flippant about 20 years ago
― da croupier, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
Seriously, tho. Man of Steel is so unbelievably boring.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
I'll take divisive over pleasant.
― Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
From whatever third stringer is handling tentpole reviews now that all the good people left The AV Club:
Man Of Steel eschews the usual trappings of Superman stories—right down to the word “Superman,” which is uttered only once. There’s no Lex Luthor, no Kryptonite, no glasses, no mild-mannered reporter, very little Daily Planet, and even less Metropolis.
Yeah, stuffing a movie full of those worked real well for Bryan Singer. Why would Nolan and Snyder avoid them?
― hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
good point. Superman Returns tried too hard with the Superman 2 baggage
― Nhex, Thursday, 13 June 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, stuffing a movie full of those worked real well for Bryan Singer.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/how-hit-movies-become-flops
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
Colloquially, I don't remember anyone really liking the Singer Superman, but ^^^ article says otherwise.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
BY MATT SINGER
hmmmm
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
I enjoyed it somewhat for nostalgic reasons. I really don't feel the need to see this one though. What the heck is that costume made of, alligator skin or something?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
it has the texture of fruity rollups
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
WADERPANTS | JUNE 13, 2013 12:11 AMREPLY
Why does no writer ever reference audience reviews from Rotten Tomatoes?Check Superman Returns 67% from audience. Batman Begins 90%. Man of Steel 97%.Remember... Critics don't buy tickets, fans do. Returns was a beautifully filmed, but boring movie. Only scene in the film that felt like Superman was him saving the airplane. Stalker Superman was just creepy.
xpost xfabric
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
Stalker Superman was just creepy.
Yes, this is when it turned from boring movie to terrible movie.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
Jesus Superman is the worst, seriously
― Nhex, Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
Hoo boy. I only skimmed this spoiler-heavy review from Wired, but from what I did read it sounds like all my worst fears about a Snyder Superman were entirely justified: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/06/man-of-steel-movie-review/Grim, Violent Man of Steel Sells Superman’s Soul for Spectacle">=http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/06/man-of-steel-movie-review/Grim, Violent Man of Steel Sells Superman’s Soul for Spectacle
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, buggered the formatting there :(
I don't know, there are thousands of movies that throw in a Jesus reference maybe it's ok for a movie about a man with godlike powers whose entire life is dedicated to saving people.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
xps http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/06/man-of-steel-movie-review/
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
SUCKER. Heart attacks are for chumps. Spoiler: in Man of Steel, Jonathan Kent is killed by a suitably cinematic tornado, twenty feet from his adopted son, who simply stands by and watches.
Hah, does this really happen?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
Returns took the Jesus thing way too far
then again who knows, maybe a movie with Jesus Christ lifting mountains and punching aliens in the face might be totally awesome
― Nhex, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
I'd rather see that movie than Sadface Superman.
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
The movie does end with a military official admitting that Superman's "kinda hot."
Mitigating factor: it's a female military official.
So not zeitgeist.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
In case it’s not obvious from the preceding paragraph, Superman straight-up kills a guy in Man of Steel. He also pretty much commits genocide, or at least heavily and knowingly abets it, although I’m genuinely unsure that the filmmakers realized the latter part, or that they considered it a moral event horizon more significant than—spoiler—snapping the neck of his Kryptonian nemesis, General Zod.
lol enjoy your shitshow, suckers
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
wow, that tornado thing sounds dumb. I guess it's to make Superman more like Spiderman, where it's like "he COULD have saved him!" But I think it's sort of central to the Superman concept that Pa Kent's death is something he couldn't do anything about no matter what - this reminder that even for this God-man there are just hard limits, people will die, you can't save everyone. I remember it being done really brilliantly in Morrison's All-Star Superman, which overall would make a great template for a Superman movie. (I know they made an animated one, but still.)
xpost wow this movie sounds bad
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
Almost sounds like Snyder's going "Yeah, see, if Watchmen was MY idea from the start..."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link