itt fans of non-playoff teams chatter about the off season (2013)

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lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

got to think bynum will take a short offer to prove he can stay healthy then try to cash in w a long max deal

― lag∞n, Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:28 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

i bet a team rolls the dice on a long term deal

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

max deal? idk

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

btw as a c's fan i totally bless #traderondo

call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

im not sure, letting go of good players is dicey

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

best policy is prob to wait for the next disgruntled superstar demanding trade

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

or james harden cap terror type situation

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

i love rondo but he is kind of an icing on the cake guy

he would be awesome in houston w/harden, parsons et al i think

if i were a western gm i'd be trying to get him to defend parker/westbrook/conley and as a bonus if you already have a solid team you get to utilize PLAYOFF RONDO which is a whole different animal

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

Any team w/o a solid locker room / established player leadership that throws either max money or max years to Andrew Bynum is begging for multiple lottery years. You cannot go anywhere w/ Bynum as your star player, full stop. And that's totally disregarding the fact that he's basically only played one full season his 7-year career.

Wish there were a package Nuggs could offer Celtics that could make sense.

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

naw bynum is a legit star when healthy he does everything

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

but if im danny im probably just trying to rebuild around rondo on the fly because right now it looks like anything below third in the east (after mia, ind and chi if rose ever plays basketball again) will be wide open the next couple of years

xp's

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

Hibachi otm, although Lin kinda fucks that up.

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

naw bynum is a legit star when healthy he does everything

― lag∞n, Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:59 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark

what

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

rondo's on such a good contract, it would be hard to get equal value back for him at that price unless someone trades a few really good young players

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

Hibachi otm, although Lin kinda fucks that up.

― IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:00 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

morey is an ice cold killer, he would not hesitate to make lin a third/combo guard and actively shop him

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

it's true bynums really good! i mean for him to be the best player on a title team obvs you need a lot of talent around him, hes not lebron, but he could easily be 1b in a lot of differnt title configurations

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

Bynum is a really talented player who contributes zero positives to a team's culture, which is what you absolutely need to be a better-than-decent team. Bynum will absolutely never lead a team anywhere promising besides Lulzland.

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link

would you guys rather sign bynum at $12m a year for 4 years or dwight howard at $23m a year for 5 years

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

gtfo w that culture bs, dude can play

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

peak bynum is such a fleeting thing and outweighed by months of stupidity and injury that i can barely even imagine him on a title team anymore

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

Oh no, totally don't expect Rondo to go anywhere considering C's dearth of talent / exciting players and his favorable contract. Just feel like that Celts team is about to enter weird limbo and I don't want Rondo's best years sacrificed.

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

j0rd i choose c) death

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

bynums problem is he is always injued, lots of assholes have plenty rings

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

I wonder if you could get Bynum to sign for 4/20 because he's a stoner.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

i actually agree with compupost on that one... i think you could compete for a finals with bynum as your offensive centerpiece but you would definitely need to carefully construct the rest of your team and not just from an on-court perspective

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

it's not that bynum's an asshole, it's that he's really immature

idk how many immature players have rings

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

would you guys rather sign bynum at $12m a year for 4 years or dwight howard at $23m a year for 5 years

― J0rdan S., Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dwight in a second but obvs its a huge risk

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

i have no problems with assholes winning titles and in fact think you need a lil bit of that edge (ahem kobe, but also like s-jax on spurs etc) to get there but bynums assholery is actively interfering with his ability to be on the court c.f freaking bowling injuries

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

idk how many immature players have rings

― J0rdan S., Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:05 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

none because in the perfection of nba logic once you get a ring youre no longer immature see Wallace Rasheed et al

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

none because in the perfection of nba logic once you get a ring youre no longer immature see Wallace Rasheed et al

― lag∞n, Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

sure but sheed was also 10 years into his career at that point

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

and still yelling ball dont lie and notably AFLAC

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

not that bynum doesn't already have rings but you know

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

i have no problems with assholes winning titles and in fact think you need a lil bit of that edge (ahem kobe, but also like s-jax on spurs etc) to get there but bynums assholery is actively interfering with his ability to be on the court c.f freaking bowling injuries

― joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bowling we talking abt bowling

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

haha

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

Promise to forever gtfo w/ culture stuff as soon as there's a team lead to EC/WC finals by a bozo. Like, every single player/coach/gm says it's important, there's a shitton of anecdotal evidence that it's important, and this is a reminder that irl NBA ≠ your NBA 2K13 roster.

Again people forget that Bynum is technically a vet now and is still a total clown. Teams win w/ clowns on their roster, but not with clowns at their #1 guys (which Bynum would be if he were max'd out).

Guys like Sheed were also lucky to be on teams where he wasn't the #1 guy-- those Detroit teams were helmed by dudes like Billups and Ben Wallace and Rip and Tayshawn. Great teams can absorb clowns but can't be lead by them.

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

i don't even know who signs bynum anyway. the new philly braintrust doesn't have an obligation to make it work.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

compupost otm

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

But I certainly won't deny that Bynum can be a starting center for a championship team. It's just that a team that wants a fleshed-out roster and expects to go deep in the playoffs can't afford to pay Bynum max money is all.

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

Promise to forever gtfo w/ culture stuff as soon as there's a team lead to EC/WC finals by a bozo.

― IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

j-kidd's nets? though apparently every teammate ever loved the dude

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

i recant that, off-season jerks are a whole diff thing

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

BOWLING

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

i think bynum makes a lot of sense for the cavs but i think they're gonna stupidly hold out for lebron

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

Damn Baron Davis / Walton / Gibson all off the books now for Cavs, too, and suddenly in the weird position of having a ton of sane contracts.

IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

this is fascinating http://www.shamsports.com/2013/06/the-amount-of-cap-room-teams-will.html

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

as soon as bynum wins a ring he becomes not a bozo, you all are trapped in a bullshit media tautology

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

Like, every single player/coach/gm says it's important, there's a shitton of anecdotal evidence that it's important, and this is a reminder that irl NBA ≠ your NBA 2K13 roster.

― IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

COOL ANECDATA BRO

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

but anyway allow me to pluck one from recent memory DWIGHT HOWARD

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link

' as soon as there's a team lead to EC/WC finals by a bozo.'

i mean come on do you even follow basketball

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

dwight is def a compelling counter example

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

but dwight is a transcendent talent, bynum is merely a very good nba player

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link


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