itt fans of non-playoff teams chatter about the off season (2013)

i think monta needs a reality check regarding what a team wants to pay him in 2013

yeah it's certainly below what monta is looking for--i'm wondering if it's a given that some team will come along with a higher offer.

monta was born abt 12 years too late.

Sounds like Bucks already made the decision to keep Jennings, so why not offer Monta a lowball offer to see if he takes it. Volume-shooting guards seem to always get overpaid during FA, so I'm sure someone is gonna offer him more $ or same money/more years.

Super curious about what will happen w/ Bynum this offseason. Since he has two major strikes against him -- prone to major injuries + not a team leader / coachable dude -- probably means he won't get max deal offers. Would love to see him on a vet / solidified team that needs an extra big. Can, uh ... Miami find a way to hire him for a year?

Also, has there been any Rondo trade talk? Kinda hoping Celtics looking to blow up the team w/ impending Garnett retirement and PP running out of gas soon; that said, since this draft is so weak, this probably isn't the right offseason to blow shit up for prospects.

got to think bynum will take a short offer to prove he can stay healthy then try to cash in w a long max deal

can only see the celtics moving rondo for an established star or a sure thing draft pick

tho I wonder what would happen if a team offered bynum like 4/40

tho I wonder what would happen if a team offered bynum like 4/40

― lag∞n, Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:31 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Four years of irritating futility?

I just want Rondo in a new situation where his one and only job is to dole out as many assists/game as possible and not surrounded by olds / random roster fodder. Basically, either on a Western Conference team or a team that is in dire need of a trü pg.

maybe but its intriguing cause healthy bynum is worth more than the max, he could make a lot of teams contenders real fast xp

agreed rondo on a fast paced team w a bunch of scorers would be so sick

maybe rondo to the nuggs

ilh would prob esplode

oh man, wd love to watch rondo on the nuggs

if we talk about it enough here maybe chris broussard will report it on twitter

multiple sources

got to think bynum will take a short offer to prove he can stay healthy then try to cash in w a long max deal

― lag∞n, Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:28 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

i bet a team rolls the dice on a long term deal

max deal? idk

btw as a c's fan i totally bless #traderondo

im not sure, letting go of good players is dicey

best policy is prob to wait for the next disgruntled superstar demanding trade

or james harden cap terror type situation

i love rondo but he is kind of an icing on the cake guy

he would be awesome in houston w/harden, parsons et al i think

if i were a western gm i'd be trying to get him to defend parker/westbrook/conley and as a bonus if you already have a solid team you get to utilize PLAYOFF RONDO which is a whole different animal

Any team w/o a solid locker room / established player leadership that throws either max money or max years to Andrew Bynum is begging for multiple lottery years. You cannot go anywhere w/ Bynum as your star player, full stop. And that's totally disregarding the fact that he's basically only played one full season his 7-year career.

Wish there were a package Nuggs could offer Celtics that could make sense.

naw bynum is a legit star when healthy he does everything

but if im danny im probably just trying to rebuild around rondo on the fly because right now it looks like anything below third in the east (after mia, ind and chi if rose ever plays basketball again) will be wide open the next couple of years

xp's

Hibachi otm, although Lin kinda fucks that up.

naw bynum is a legit star when healthy he does everything

― lag∞n, Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:59 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark

what

rondo's on such a good contract, it would be hard to get equal value back for him at that price unless someone trades a few really good young players

Hibachi otm, although Lin kinda fucks that up.

― IM ME, I DO ME, AND I CHILL (CompuPost), Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:00 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

morey is an ice cold killer, he would not hesitate to make lin a third/combo guard and actively shop him

it's true bynums really good! i mean for him to be the best player on a title team obvs you need a lot of talent around him, hes not lebron, but he could easily be 1b in a lot of differnt title configurations

Bynum is a really talented player who contributes zero positives to a team's culture, which is what you absolutely need to be a better-than-decent team. Bynum will absolutely never lead a team anywhere promising besides Lulzland.

would you guys rather sign bynum at $12m a year for 4 years or dwight howard at $23m a year for 5 years

gtfo w that culture bs, dude can play

peak bynum is such a fleeting thing and outweighed by months of stupidity and injury that i can barely even imagine him on a title team anymore

Oh no, totally don't expect Rondo to go anywhere considering C's dearth of talent / exciting players and his favorable contract. Just feel like that Celts team is about to enter weird limbo and I don't want Rondo's best years sacrificed.

j0rd i choose c) death

bynums problem is he is always injued, lots of assholes have plenty rings

I wonder if you could get Bynum to sign for 4/20 because he's a stoner.

i actually agree with compupost on that one... i think you could compete for a finals with bynum as your offensive centerpiece but you would definitely need to carefully construct the rest of your team and not just from an on-court perspective

it's not that bynum's an asshole, it's that he's really immature

idk how many immature players have rings

would you guys rather sign bynum at $12m a year for 4 years or dwight howard at $23m a year for 5 years

― J0rdan S., Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dwight in a second but obvs its a huge risk

i have no problems with assholes winning titles and in fact think you need a lil bit of that edge (ahem kobe, but also like s-jax on spurs etc) to get there but bynums assholery is actively interfering with his ability to be on the court c.f freaking bowling injuries

idk how many immature players have rings

― J0rdan S., Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:05 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

none because in the perfection of nba logic once you get a ring youre no longer immature see Wallace Rasheed et al

none because in the perfection of nba logic once you get a ring youre no longer immature see Wallace Rasheed et al

― lag∞n, Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

sure but sheed was also 10 years into his career at that point

and still yelling ball dont lie and notably AFLAC

not that bynum doesn't already have rings but you know

i have no problems with assholes winning titles and in fact think you need a lil bit of that edge (ahem kobe, but also like s-jax on spurs etc) to get there but bynums assholery is actively interfering with his ability to be on the court c.f freaking bowling injuries

― joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bowling we talking abt bowling

haha

Promise to forever gtfo w/ culture stuff as soon as there's a team lead to EC/WC finals by a bozo. Like, every single player/coach/gm says it's important, there's a shitton of anecdotal evidence that it's important, and this is a reminder that irl NBA ≠ your NBA 2K13 roster.

Again people forget that Bynum is technically a vet now and is still a total clown. Teams win w/ clowns on their roster, but not with clowns at their #1 guys (which Bynum would be if he were max'd out).

Guys like Sheed were also lucky to be on teams where he wasn't the #1 guy-- those Detroit teams were helmed by dudes like Billups and Ben Wallace and Rip and Tayshawn. Great teams can absorb clowns but can't be lead by them.

i don't even know who signs bynum anyway. the new philly braintrust doesn't have an obligation to make it work.