Is "Rhapsody in Blue" Awesome?

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i gave up playing clarinet before i could do the opening glissando :'(

dyl, Friday, 7 June 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link

I say no to being 'fake jazz' and yes to its' awesomeness. I would guess that I listen to it 6-9 times a year. It's modern and beautiful.

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 7 June 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link

It is great! Copland's Piano Concerto is equally as cool imo, they make good companions.

MaresNest, Friday, 7 June 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

great

was also the title of Gershwin biopic starring Alan Alda's dad.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038026/combined

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

I think those ubiquitous friendly skies commercials from my childhood really killed one of the best parts for me

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

Does anyone know anything about how Gershwin wanted it received at the time?

From Richard Crawford's entry on Gershwin in Grove:

The work was first performed in New York’s Aeolian Hall on 12 February in a concert billed as ‘An Experiment in Modern Music’. It purported to demonstrate that the new, rhythmically vivacious dance music called jazz, which most concert musicians and critics considered beneath them, was elevated by the ‘symphonic’ arrangements in which Whiteman’s band specialized. Gershwin’s Rhapsody won both the audience’s approval and the critics’ attention. Performed repeatedly, and also recorded, the work also won renown for its composer, as a historical figure – the man who had brought ‘jazz’ into the concert hall.

Although most observers saw Rhapsody in Blue as a new departure for the young songwriter, in fact it reaffirmed Gershwin's continuing involvement with classical music. In 1915 he had begun to study harmony, counterpoint, orchestration and musical form with Kilenyi, continuing at least to 1921. His first classical piece, the Lullaby for string quartet (c1919), was apparently composed as a harmony exercise for Kilenyi. His second, a brief opera called Blue Monday, opened the second act of George White’s Scandals for 1922 but was withdrawn after its first performance. On 1 November 1923 Gershwin performed in an Aeolian Hall recital by the Canadian mezzo soprano Eva Gauthier that helped to set the stage for Whiteman’s concert less than three months later. In a programme that ranged from songs by Purcell and Bellini to works by Schoenberg, Hindemith and Bartók, Gauthier included compositions by Gershwin, Kern, Irving Berlin and Walter Donaldson, the latter group accompanied by Gershwin. The musical juxtapositions of Rhapsody in Blue had roots in a sensibility that never fully accepted a separation between popular and classical genres.

It's totally awesome btw.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

(12 Feb 1924)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link

p. much the only good part of Fantasia 2000.

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

It's not really jazz, but it's not fake either. And it is awesome.

I'm not clear on the reciprocal influences between Gershwin and Ellington, but I think it's safe to say the positive reception of Rhapsody helped create an audience for Ellington's increasingly ambitious compositions. So the jazz world benefited hugely from what Gershwin did.

Brad C., Friday, 7 June 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

Sund4r, thanks for that Crawford entry. Elsewise, I'm kinda remorseful at raising the 'fake jazz' spectre itt, because I'm not sure it exactly applies. Kinda clumsy attempt at provoking discussion I guess.

I wish there was an easy way to discuss the various non-theme little bits in RiB, because there are some that just knock my socks off.

Now, I wanna see Alan Alda's dad as Gershwin, and I must check out the Copland piano concerto, which I've never knowingly heard.

softspool, Friday, 7 June 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link

p. much the only good part of Fantasia 2000.

so true

is there anyone who thinks this isn't awesome?

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

listening to Zubin Mehta and the NY Philharmonic's take on it for the Manhattan soundtrack now = bliss.

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it's a really nice version, isn't it?

softspool, Friday, 7 June 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

very much so. my first introduction to it as well, so bonus points.

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

it being Rhapsody in Blue, back when I was 15 and watching all of Woody Allen's 70s films.

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

this is a good piece of music.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

so good. I've been listening to it a lot lately.
it's interesting the way it's not really considered a cohesive composition as a whole, more like a juxtaposition of motives that could totally be played independently from one another and still be great.
bernstein wrote some things about that. and I totally agree. actually, there are moments when I would prefer to listen to only one of the parts over the others.
I love the way he mixes elements of american music (i.e jazz) and french contemporary classical (ravel, debussy) to great effects.
another funny thing is that there are some parts in the beach boys' "smile" that are so directly linked to this (especially in "heroes & villains").

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 31 July 2015 12:56 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

brb just gonna listen to this

Soon all logins will look like this (darraghmac), Friday, 19 February 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link

Uri Caine recorded his version a few years ago (which I haven't heard yet). Willem Breuker did a Gershwin project in the 80s, some of it is on youtube.

EvR, Friday, 19 February 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Nice work on the piano there, George!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Okcn34E1RY

softspool, Sunday, 7 October 2018 05:45 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Who will be the first to sample this now that it's in the public domain?

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

is it the composition that's in the public domain or the first recording?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link

The composition. So I guess that would still restrict sampling of recordings. But someone could freely perform or interpolate it (a la "My Favorite Things" for Ariana Grande's "7 Rings") without permission.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

I was listening to La Creation du Monde by Darius Milhaud the other day and it's basically Rhapsody in Blue except made a few years earlier. You can really see the Milhaud influences on Gershwin with that one.

YellowJelly, Thursday, 2 January 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Haven't sampled or remixed it exactly, but this mix is intended to work as an expansion of Rhapsody In Blue

https://centuriesofsound.com/2020/05/04/1924/

(Sorry if this is excessive spamming of my mixes, I only do one a month, if that's any consolation)

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

I was listening to La Creation du Monde by Darius Milhaud the other day and it's basically Rhapsody in Blue except made a few years earlier. You can really see the Milhaud influences on Gershwin with that one.


Oh wow indeed !
I also just learned that the opening glissando was actually not written by Gershwin but improvised by the original clarinet player.
This belongs to the shocking old discovering things thread !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 7 May 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

Yikes, both things are new to me, despite having just spent a day reading about RiB. Will have to update my show notes.

Listening to La Creation do Monde now, can hear the similarities, think "basically the same" is overselling it a little though. Is there a particular arrangement / performance I should be checking out?

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 May 2020 09:44 (three years ago) link

Copland's beautiful Piano Sonata is worth checking out too, similar in tonality and maybe in construction too.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 7 May 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link


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