by welles' 'lofty standards'. charlton heston's fault mostly. opening sequence is great but then it's all brooding menace and then the epic payoff
― ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 23:00 (eight years ago) link
oh damn, brooding menace and an epic payoff, what a terrible disappointment
― ¬╡▫ ▫╞⌠ (sic), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 23:34 (eight years ago) link
no beef, just a structural observation
― ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 23:57 (eight years ago) link
RIP menacing hood Pancho
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 August 2013 16:23 (eight years ago) link
...so is Zsa Zsa Gabor the last living cast member?
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 August 2013 16:32 (eight years ago) link
i remember seeing the restored version in theaters back in 98, and there were a couple of gay dudes in the row behind me laughing really hard at the scene where janet leigh was lying in bed wearing this:
i guess thats when i learned what camp is
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 16 August 2013 20:53 (eight years ago) link
Rewatched on DCP in a theater last night. Dennis Weaver's lunatic "night man" is really a marvel, and his interactions with the hoodlums at the motel have a big proto-Lynch vibe.
Always forget that Heston's primary cop ally (Schwartz) is played by Mort Mills, who was the cop with the dark shades in Psycho.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 April 2018 15:39 (four years ago) link
Agree about Dennis Weaver, never knew this latter bit of info.
― We’ll Take Chanhassen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 April 2018 15:41 (four years ago) link
had this theory that Welles casting All-American Man Heston as a Mexican was a coded commentary on the social construction of race
by now i hope HOOS knows that Welles didn't cast Heston (it's closer to the reverse).
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 April 2018 15:49 (four years ago) link
Watched this for the first time today and had a ball. Some things:
- Obviously, the opening scene is just spectacular. I found myself thinking 'Renoir!' in quite a few places.- Welles has something of Renoir about him - particularly Renoir-as-Octave?- The Janet Leigh character does consistently confusing things but she eats up the screen when she's on it. She should definitely stay away from motels.- Heston is kinda bad to be honest. Acting like he's being pulled along by his teeth. And the blackface is just, jeez (the entire portrayal of Mexicans is quietly astonishing). - That final scene in the graveyard of industry absolutely made me think it was a deliberate reference to the wheel in The Third Man. - Honestly had no idea it was Dietrich! She was the best thing in it?
Loved this: "I could work forever on the editing of a film. For me, the strip of celluloid is put together like a musical score, and this execution is determined by the editing; just like a conductor interprets a piece of music in rubato, another will play it in a very dry and academic manner and a third will be very romantic, and so on. The images themselves are not sufficient: they are very important, but are only images. The essential is the length of each image, what follows each image: it is the very eloquence of the cinema that is constructed in the editing room."
Is there a particular Welles/Welles-adjacent book I could or should go to?
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:38 (six months ago) link
I didn't cope too well with the Dennis Weaver character. It was like he'd been dropped in from a different film? He definitely added to the overall sense of fear and nightmarishness I guess. Similarly with 'jittery guy' who must have been told to 'bob up and down', and again 'keep bobbing!'.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:41 (six months ago) link
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski),
For sure his booklength interview with Bogdanovich -- such a literate man, our Orson.
I read Clifton Heylin's critical bio last month. The last two volumes of Simon Callow's bio also terrific for insights.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:44 (six months ago) link
Nice one, cheers. My university library has the Bogdanovich. Got myself a copy of the Renoir autobiography as well - cheap hardback.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 14 November 2021 21:54 (six months ago) link
Renoir's memoir of his old man also worth a read.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 November 2021 21:55 (six months ago) link
how is thomson? I picked it up for cheap a while ago but haven’t really opened it yet
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:49 (six months ago) link