Steve Roach -- the endlessly meditative thread

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A healthy approach.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:39 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

Cool piece on the 30th anniversary of Structures:

http://m.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/celebrating-the-silences/Content?oid=4074680

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

Good piece, Ned.

Thoughts on the two other discs? Liner notes?

I admit that I haven't yet quite *gotten* Roach's immersive thing just yet – and that part of what I love about this record is that it has layers upon layers of what is, at the end of the day, a distinctively Oberheim sound.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link

The original edit mentions the extra two discs more -- also lovely but, I think enjoyably and appropriately, different from the original; he didn't try and recreate the sound but sought to explore the same themes from his point of view from where he more currently stands.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link

Been listening to my (older) Projekt re-release of Structures from Silence and wondering if it is worth ordering the deluxe edition or just snagged some other Roach back catalog stuff I've missed. I get enough shit for buying more than one Steve Roach album, imagine if they find out I'm buying the same one twice. Actually it won't surprise anyone at this point.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link

Part of me thinks, "Gee, I really love SfS, I wish he recorded more stuff like it" – which it course makes me think I should buy the set as well...

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 17 April 2014 01:46 (ten years ago) link

New tracks not really like SfS at all, instantly spotable as recent output.

I got a copy of 'Dynamic Stillness' last year at the Hearts of Space festival in San Rafael and it's solid recent Roach, same textures as the Immersions but with much more in the way of slow harmonic changes & melodies.

Been listening to a lot of Jorge Reyes recently and have just gotten around to the two Suspended Memories collaborations with Roach. Maybe a little less deep than Reyes on his own but still pretty great.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 17 April 2014 02:04 (ten years ago) link

I have his iPhone app

I got that triple CD a couple years ago or was it a quadruple

fuck yes to Steve Roach

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 17 April 2014 04:07 (ten years ago) link

That Hearts and Space festival was called Ambicon 2013. Rad.

brimstead, Thursday, 17 April 2014 05:01 (ten years ago) link

looks like Ambicon 2014's in Helsinski :(

brimstead, Thursday, 17 April 2014 05:03 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

Your (free to download, or send him a few bucks for it) Blood Moon soundtrack:

http://steveroach.bandcamp.com/album/bloodmoon-rising

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 9 October 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Future Flows from a few years back was available for free until a few days ago:

https://projektrecords.bandcamp.com/album/future-flows

I usually grab them when I get an email about the free ones. This one was quite good I thought – pure electronic spaciness.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 16 May 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link

Steve Roach is just plugged in. Following him for a few years, it's pretty astounding how much music he creates. He's not just doing 45 minutes and out in a club either, the guy is like let's do a three day getaway and play the entire time.

There are descriptions that the guy will setup sequences in a room and just keep them running over and over. Every now and then he wanders in and changes the sequence and then moves on to working on something else while the sequence just keeps moving.

He's like an old jazz guy in that he does alot of jam records with other artists. They get into a room, hit record and out of the session comes a record.

earlnash, Monday, 16 May 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

Yeah in terms of consistency as well as range within the form I'd place him among my favorite musicians now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 May 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link

Been listening to lots of the deep void stuff -- Mystic Chords, BLOODMOON RISING 1+3, Future Flows. Another Bandcamp freebie he released a few years ago, Sigh of Ages, is a bit more along the lines of Structures from Silence -- less black hole emptiness and more cascading analog textures using ARP String Ensemble. I like it.

Feel like seeing this guy live would be a pretty great (three day) experience. How often does he venture out of his desert fortress?

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

In the early 1980s, KSPC in Claremont used to have a late-Sunday night electronic music show. Listened to it all the time - I remember hearing Traveller on it when it first came out and to me it just obvious that Roach was resolutely looking outward and not turning around. His recent work has just been outstanding. Would love to go to one of these desert shows.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link

ILM road trip!

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

Sigh of Ages is pretty amazing - a lot more movement than Structures but a pretty incredible vibe

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link

I mentioned this over on the Frippertronics thread ... but it's actually maybe a bit more relevant to this one. I've been listening to a ton of Fripp's "Soundscapes" recordings the last several days -- less charitably, they could be described as the digital descendent of Frippertronics. But they actually share a lot in common with Roach's space void music (one reason I suspect the two collaborated) -- big, swelling things that go on for a long, long time and put you in a really different listening space. And the more I listen to them, the more I really like the textures Fripp creates.

Like Roach, Fripp has recorded far more of this stuff than he could ever hope to release in a physical package, so he's taken advantage of putting this music online -- in his case on DGM Live. There are some good freebies (some of which sound a little like Fripp's ode to Eno's Neroli album) but one of the better (and more Roach-y) ones to pay for is his concert at the World Trade Center in November, 2000 -- there are several really long pieces that just build and build. Can be found here: http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=14&show=925

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

New releases on Bandcamp, and he's making this one name-your-price for the next couple of days:

https://steveroach.bandcamp.com/album/fade-to-gray

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 December 2016 05:33 (seven years ago) link

Grabbed it, haven't listened yet.

For those who are interested, Roach did a nice Q&A with the gear sluts over at Gearslutz in September. Covers lots of technical questions as well as some philosophical ones:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-steve-roach/

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 2 January 2017 14:40 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Hey, new interview with the man on Bandcamp:

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/02/08/steve-roach-interview/

Great to see -- a little jealous I didn't think to pitch one earlier!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

And as it turns out -- did a really great interview with the man for RBMA. It'll be running soon, will post here when it does!

His surprise birthday release earlier this month, The Passing, is yet another fantastic effort. The man's quality control in combination with his rate of releases is just astonishing.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Oh nice! I will keep an eye out for it.

Still think we need an ILM Desert Road Trip to see this guy...

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 March 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link

looking forward to your interview ned. amazing you were able to keep your composure. i would've been like "uh, so.... do you like voids *twirls phone cord around finger*"

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 March 2017 09:36 (seven years ago) link

Hahah. One of the easiest interviews I've ever done -- gave very long, thoughtful answers on some big questions about his work. And if I had more time I could have asked a lot more (really wanted to get into his collaborative process, since he's worked with so many people).

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 4 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

shh i'm trying to keep up the illusion that when steve roach opens his mouth a pure and endless sound issues from it

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 March 2017 15:39 (seven years ago) link

And having promised, here's my interview with the man. Easily one of my favorite pieces I've ever done.

http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2017/03/steve-roach-interview?linkId=35319969

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 15:05 (seven years ago) link

Nice interview! I was hoping he was a relaxed sort of guy.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 10 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, no airs at all, just happily talking away.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

i'm shuffling steve roach on spotify now, don't think this guy's ever released a genuine dud. i only have Structures From Silence and Quiet Music. The former is the original CD release...how's the remastered special edition?

i'm always tempted to buy more whenever I'm at Amoeba but his section takes up about 2% of the store, it's a little overwhelming.

nomar, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

Hey that's one reason why the Bandcamp sites are handy, you can at least sample away. But I don't blame you for being overwhelmed! Both on this thread and in the article I mentioned a few faves so if I had to do a starter five beyond those two:

Dreamtime Return
Dynamic Stillness
Sigh of Ages
Immersion
Dust To Dust (with Roger King)

PLENTY of others but I think that gives a real sense of strengths.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

And having mentioned said sites:

http://steveroach.bandcamp.com/

https://projektrecords.bandcamp.com/

Plus plenty of sampling via his own site:

http://steveroach.com/store/

http://steveroach.com/store/store.php?query=timeroom&details=y

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

thanks! looks like i picked the wrong week to keep to my music budget.

somewhat curiously (to me at least) on his spotify page his most "popular" tracks are five tracks from The Magnificent Void.

nomar, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link

only bc he's released however many albums and that's the one the listening public on spotify is gravitating towards.

nomar, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

Oh and re: remastered Structures From Silence, I had this to say a while back:

http://www.wonderingsound.com/review/steve-roach-structures-silence-30th-anniversary-deluxe-remastered-edition/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

The Delicate Forever is my current favorite.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 10 March 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link

You can get really lost in visual with the screen tracking everything. Then I find that you start to stop listening or hearing in the same way when you take away that element and you just are working through the sound field, meditating, staring, focusing intently on the space between the speakers with no screen. That’s a powerful place.

Best interview with the man I have read. Kudos, Ned!

Wimmels, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Thanks!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

And yes I was really taken by that section as he spoke it -- a very vivid way to describe the experience, with as much concrete detail as conceptual.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link

cold, grim sequencer voyages through blackest space

I'm totally unfamiliar with this guy's work. Could you recommend a few titles that best fit this description/would sit comfortably alongside Zeit-era Tangerine Dream?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 11 March 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

The Magnificent Void is a keeper along those lines, referenced upthread a number of times. Dynamic Stillness is a personal fave of mine as mentioned.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link

This would likely also suit, given that it's a Lustmord collaboration:

https://steveroach.com/Music/discography.php?albumID=348

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Thanks! Darkest Before Dawn also seems like it might fit the bill.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link

That's one I've not heard but the title alone makes me think almost certainly.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link

great interview Ned

been hanging out a bit more often in Tuscon and Bisbee recently. this music sure makes a lot more sense after long road trips to Chiricahua and back.

Milton Parker, Saturday, 11 March 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link

Thanks indeed -- and yeah, his description of where he lives (didn't make the cut) was quite vivid.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:10 (seven years ago) link

Roach contains multitudes! Ned's piece made me curious about Dust To Dust, with Roger King. I own about 15 Steve Roach albums and I'd estimate that I've heard about double that number, but I've never heard him do anything like this, parts of which sound like what The Hired Hand soundtrack might have sounded like if it was released by Kranky in the 90s, or if Labradford had taken their ambient spaghetti western-isms to their logical conclusion. OK, some of it is that good, some of it isn't, but it's still a side of Roach I've never heard (harmonicas!) and I'm really enjoying it.

Wimmels, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:28 (seven years ago) link

It's a treat, and holds a special place for me since it's the first thing I ever heard from Roach that I can recall. He told me himself that it was a bit of a unique one-off!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 March 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link

Phew, great performance last night indeed, we had a mini ILX coffee klatch in the back with lukas, beard papa and myself. A wonderful two hour trip.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 April 2024 17:49 (one week ago) link

Well damn, missed this thread and went to the show last night, it was absolutely fantastic!

octobeard, Sunday, 7 April 2024 18:23 (one week ago) link

Yeah remarkably compelling over that two hours. He seems to know what he's doing.

default damager (lukas), Sunday, 7 April 2024 18:23 (one week ago) link

The projected lighting was one of the more beautiful accompaniments to a show I've ever seen, and that's saying something. Seemed like Roach performed a bunch of stuff spanning his career then ended on Structures From Silence.

octobeard, Sunday, 7 April 2024 18:24 (one week ago) link

He mentioned in a quick email to me that they loaded in at 10 am and worked to get the sound right up through 5:45 pm — all time worth spending, you could feel that all the way to the back where we were at!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 April 2024 20:45 (one week ago) link

I wasn't even on anything for that show and the visuals made me feel like I was hallucinating so I had to close my eyes for a lot of the performance. What a great show.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 12 April 2024 21:37 (one week ago) link

Truly! Had some thoughts:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-weekly-111-102230898

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 April 2024 22:32 (one week ago) link

Hah, I was listening for the "gentle fanfare" too.

default damager (lukas), Saturday, 13 April 2024 00:33 (one week ago) link


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