Search: Metal that Sounds Like Glenn Branca

I know that Deathspell Omega album really well. I really like it. That's probably in the vein of what I'm looking for, yes. I think it might actually be the album that first got me seriously interested in avant-garde black metal, actually. I don't think I know Portal or Shining at all; will look into those. I remember disliking Altar of Plagues' 2011 album but I'll try the new one. Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?

i disliked that too, sund4r, but the new one is on some kinda art-wave-industrial flavor, v. listenable.

the latest portal is good.

Wow, you guys are right about Portal's guitars. "Plasm" and "Awryeon" are awesome. I thought I was a black + doom partisan but I'm definitely into this.

OMG "Oblotten"

"Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?"

no, not really. band of susans did. i just always think of helmet when someone mentions branca.

Not sure if they're really metal, and it's from ages ago, but try Blind Idiot God.

Oh, I know and love Blind Idiot God. I'm looking more for contemporary extreme metal.

I take it you're probably familiar with Gorguts' Obscura-album? That's my go-to album when I'm in need of some wicked dissonant guitarstuff. But I haven't heard any Branca so I might be off by few miles...

just listen to darkspace over and over. forever.

I can't say I listen to Obscura a lot but it is pretty amazing in its way. I think it was Kris who originally recommended it to me as a metal album that actually gets into genuinely atonal territory at times. What it does is a little different from what the albums in this thread do, though. Branca is never really atonal: more like dense textures of microtonality and/or unrelieved dissonance, often with a repetitive or drone-like basis? However, if there are other things that sound like Obscura, I'd be interested in hearing about them too!

I have mp3s of Darkspace III but haven't listened to it in a while. I should pull both of these out.

Epheles - Je Suis Autrefois

oh christ yes, Gorguts - Obscura and Darkspace - III are both wonderful, wonderful albums that I've praised on here before

actually considered recommending Darkspace earlier but they're less Branca, more...being sucked from an airlock. forever!

Yeah, Darkspace almost sounds closer to a wash of white noise to me.

servile sect

Yep, Teethed Glory and Injury does seem like what I'm looking for. I'm especially liking "Scald Scar of Water" and "Reflection Pulse Remains".

jazkamer's "metal music machine"

^yesssssssssss

Although not metal per se, I remember seeing Caspar Brotzmann Massaker perform at CBGB's after the amazing "Koksofen" album came out and it was everything that I (and the editor at the time of Metal Maniacs who I dragged along to the show) could have hoped for and more.

Here's a choice moment from the disc, a mixture of avant garde stylings, distortion, arcane melodrama and evil throaty German spoken word perfectly suited for fans of the dark arts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4r4l2PKfc

I saw CBM a couple of years after that, when Home was out. They were opening for Helmet. Amazing stuff; I still listen to them all the time.

it all leads back to Helmet.

I'll rep f/ all four Portal recs, but no Aluk Todolo? the krautrock tag usually fits (which tbh isn’t far from Branca), but on a handful on tunes they conjure a wash of guitar murk that should sooth yr drone craving:

Occult Rock I – http://youtu.be/ow1g4xd7gTM
Obedience – http://youtu.be/EtRFod2cVAE
Woodchurch – http://youtu.be/eTLxY0KVzn8
Untitled (side B) – http://youtu.be/EaumUJQX-hA

even on their kraut jams, they push a clockwork dissonance that occasionally circles Lesson No. 1 and The Ascension if not the symphonies (though Occult Rock I is yr clear priority here, and I’d take an album or three of that squall).

Love the last Aluk Todolo album. Will be bookmarking this thread.

sooth yr drone craving

^^^

wtf w/ this renfaire crackhouse prattle

anyway, here are a few more recommendations:

Azonic – Shore: http://youtu.be/wzuaHxi91C0
(a longer, slightly different version of Andy Hawkins’ River Blindness)
Azonic – Beyond the Pale: http://youtu.be/Wue_LUOjiPk
Oren Ambarchi – Raga Ooty (Slight Return): http://youtu.be/8Gi6btVnv1s

idk, in my house Branca p. much functions as corrosive Teutonic ruction that pours smoothly into Skullflower and F/i through cracking hot speakers, but I’m at peace w/ my disgusting savagery, and you may find yrself delighting in the more subtle aspects of the symphonies (in which case the Oren Ambarchi and Azonic may seem left-field, but w/e).

these next two tracks are even further afield, but the prehistoric lizard currently staffing the drone wing of my brain keeps returning to these metal-ish sheets o’ guitar crush, so:

Bowery Electric – Slow Thrills: http://youtu.be/X09G1bDRocs
Flying Saucer Attack – Standing Stone: http://youtu.be/WGfn6fBU-io

(I’m not gonna pretend they’re metal, but at wilting levels they wield a metallic scrape that you may dig.)

Bosse-de-Nage and Sannhet are kind of heady, dark and dissonant, albeit not as complex as DSO or Krallice.

Bosse-de-Nage - The Arborist
http://youtu.be/lxMryekibBA

Sannhet - Absecon Isle
http://youtu.be/Ds3og9jk0t8

That Bosse-de-Nage track isn't exactly what I was asking for but I really like it all the same! Good rocking feel. More stuff like that would be good too.

bosse-de-nage is more like hello late 90s post-hardcore

Antediluvian has a pretty good Portalesque thing going
http://youtu.be/z8XSESEcX1Q

Yeah, the Sannhet track has something of that vibe too (+ Sonic Youth/Live Skull) and I kind of love it. Will definitely look for more.

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hey snd444r

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbLWHT7vUU

This Sannhet track actually is pretty much exactly what I was looking for: http://youtu.be/gsseHCsmg60

omg like 26 minutes in i think they switch from guitar to jet engine for a lil bit

then like billy corgan acoustic vibes on some pisces iscariot shit

Yeah, I thought of the Pumpkins too, as well as Mogwai. I'm still at 21:30 too.

The bit around 23:15 is pretty cool.

Wow, I see what you mean about the jet engine.

the new Deafheaven record would be a good bet IMO, and looking at the thread I see j. has already recommended it! Try also Cobalt.

^i really like this record. apparently i just love black metal that has majestic major key progressions.

Castevet is another band somewhat adjacent to Krallice. Mounds of Ash is a great album:

http://youtu.be/-50jZQYSOuM

i love the shit out of that castevet record but i think it's a bit over more to the post-hc side of things. maybe because the songs' structures are much more taut and articulated, much stronger drum role - no five-minute hazes of /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Pulling out Deathspell Omega's Fas Ite... more over the last week, I'm reminded of why I haven't played it as much over the long term despite its initial impact. While I'm really into most of the individual sections of all the songs, I'm never really sold on how they are combined into compositions. It's hard for me to see a clear relationship between the whole and its parts most of the time, even when it comes to the proportions of the sections. It's the same thing that frustrates me with ELP and "Paranoid Android" and "Carry On Wayward Son". While I haven't really analysed the last Krallice album formally, everything seems to work as a whole more intuitively. Maybe I should think more about why that is some time.

Really love the Deafhaven album though. How are their older albums?

I gave one listen each to DSO's Paracletum and Drought; maybe those would stick better?

Blut Aus Nord never got mentioned in this thread. I didn't keep up with them after Mort but I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!

Huh, so Roads to Judah is even more what I was looking for than Sunbather is.

GAME OVER

http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/discontinuities

^^^from this year; wins this thread absolutely and completely and I say that as someone who has heard a fair number of the bands mentioned. And I'm only on the first track!

Wow, that first track!

He's got some discography: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Jute_Gyte/

Wow, I think you may be right about that album.

i wish you would analyze that last krallice, i've played it loads but still don't have a super strong sense of any of the songs/songs' structures. i've even gotten into 'dimensional bleedthrough' since then, which used to sound to me pretty all-over-the-place when i was mostly only into 'diotima'.

Whoa - great find, imago!

Apparently, this guy designed his guitar by taking a regular Strat and building a new fretboard with 24 frets per octave.: http://metatonalmusic.com/Swordguitars/index.html

years past matter is definitely the most... amorphous, compositionally of the krallice albums. had a hard time with it at first but at some point it clicked (I think blasting it while speeding to denver airport trying to catch a flight was a turning point) and eventually became my favorite of last year.

think I'm gonna post Jute Gyte to the main metal thread - it's genuinely next-level shit, as they say

Oh man

Annoyingly there are two bands called Witch Trail, both put out albums this year. Both are very good.

Omen xp

The GB record is great btw, I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.

Afloat off the Witch Trail (indie-metal variant) album is quite something

have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being trans

it's made by the following individual

POV: 1950s housewife shows you her microtonal riffs pic.twitter.com/Yvre4b10K0

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 4, 2020

I think this kind of fits the bill... Dola from Poland.

http://open.spotify.com/album/5jmtf6yXV6na6xFfzDZsCw?si=dmeLGhtoTqedHPKyTivOKQ
http://dola.bandcamp.com/releases

Liked that.

Haven't seen this thread in a while---my gateway to Jute Gyte and others, thanks.he GB record is great btw,

I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, February 3, 2020 2:34 AM

You mean The Third Ascension? Made my Uproxx ballot too, so great:
https://glennbranca1.bandcamp.com/releases

Sorry for messing up my paste of your post!

NP, I indeed meant The Third Ascension, glad you're enjoying it Dow!

thanks 2 gaudio for posting that Witch Trail, finally got around to listening to it and it's great, love that twang.

my pleasure, GOTT PUNCH!

have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being trans

it's made by the following individual

Album is pretty nice on first listen. May well buy this. Tracks 3 and 4 sound like they're in 12tet, I think?

The 17edo guitar is interesting. Each division (so each fret) would be about 70.59 cents, I think, meaning P5s would be pretty close to what we're used to, only about 6 cents sharp of 12tet P5s and 4 cents sharp from just P5s. But what happens to thirds seems most interesting: you'd get intervals of about 282.35 cents, 352.94 cents, and 423.53 cents, so either a very flat (18 cents) minor third, almost an exact neutral third (halfway between major and minor), or a very sharp major 3 (by 24 cents, and actually more like 38 compared to a just M3). Ofc, some precision is lost when distorting but distorted microtonal tunings still produce different effects than distorted 12tet. Did Ron Sword make the guitar?

I do wonder about these guitars. With 17edo, I could see how you could play on most of the neck with very precise fingering (and she seems to, although I'm sort of interested to hear what it sounds like past the 17th fret without distortion). With the 24tet guitar, I do wonder what technique you could use to play near the octave or higher, to get your fingers just between the frets. Even Sword seems like he's squeezing when he's halfway there on this instrument: https://youtu.be/RWCwMW48FO4?t=90

Also wonder how tricky it is to ensure the intonation of these things. Probably things to ask the Xenharmonic FB group.

I think I might have actually asked some of this once and got an answer that I don't remember.

is there any reason, in this era of digital audio, why metal guitarists aren't recording 100 guitar tracks on everything

It's still a lot of work tbf.

album is going well. hope you like bird sounds in your extreme microtonal metal

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) February 26, 2021

beaky hails

New VOtS single: https://votsband.bandcamp.com/track/nowherer-single-2

On the noisy, brutal side. I think I actually like the primitive drumming.

fun chords!

New Jute Gyte album: https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/helian

Omg he's practically been releasing an album a month. I blinked and missed it.

These are mostly rereleases, although that one^ has some self-remix work so I'll def check it out. His next album proper should be along at some point soon.

Meanwhile, this thread's queen to Kalmbach's king appears to be reaching...new heights

preorders are up for my upcoming microtonal metal album, Nowherer!! and here is a playthrough of a segment from the 21 minute closing track, Oscines!! pic.twitter.com/ht3CS1fMYW

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 2, 2021

https://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2021/04/22/exclusive-premiere-interview-experience-microtonal-black-metal-bliss-with-victory-over-the-suns-nowherer/

Oscines is...unreal

Oh yeah, that's a good one.

aoty

very good

Good motorik groove with brain-frying dissonance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LFUrAa-mCM

rather than bumping the rolling metal to a resounding chorus of silence, let's use this thread for some real-deal shit

first of the day's efforts: KOSTNATENI has fucking DONE IT

https://kostnateni.bandcamp.com/album/pal

more to come, though...

yeah obv the new Victory Over The Sun too, not that ILM seems to care at more

My copy of that Kostnateni is supposed to get here later today, heard a lot of god things.

It seems increasingly hard to get the ilx metal crew excited about nearly anything black metal these days. Seems like the (understandable!) desire to avoid the Nazi sympathetic black metal musicians has led more than a few people around here to just swear the genre off completely.

Kostnateni and VOTS are explicitly and obviously decent people, clearly against any of that shit. Basic comprehension is usually enough to confirm when someone's fine. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is unimaginably dumb

Jute Gyte devotes Bandcamp Friday proceeds to the National Abortion Fund. Ayloss aka Spectral Lore just did a record in support of Mediterranean refugees. Black metal that is explicitly For Good Causes is very easy to find

Even more morally ambiguous cases like Ruins Of Beverast are no more sus than the average metal musician I'd say

Oh absolutely, I know, I'm happy to throw money to folks like Jute Gyte and those fighting the good fight. I'm just saying, it seems like black metal is being given a wide berth around here and I know at least one sometimes ilxor has explicitly stated they've walked away from black metal.

Gotta mention these guys too

Here you will tread upon a spark, but there, and there, and behind you and in front of you, and everywhere, flames will blaze up. It is a subterranean fire. You cannot put it out." - August Spies, one of the anarchists executed after the Haymarket Affair. pic.twitter.com/u6WcCNmNuA

— Dawn Ray'd (@DawnRayd) May 1, 2023

Ashenspire too. The list goes on

But as I say, I don't need my BM to be explicitly hard-leftist to enjoy it. It is possible to dig around about an artist if you're not sure, and it's usually pretty clear if they're Mean and Nasty. And then once you've done due diligence it's your decision whether to try to enjoy the music or not

ANYWAY. Thantifaxath tomorrow too, if you can believe :D

Yes! I’ve had it on preorder, and have been listening to the preview tracks. They’re incredible, especially ‘Mind of the Sun’. I can’t wait!

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