Portal have that swarm-of-angry-wasps guitar thing going.
― South of Hamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 31 May 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link
I will second portal for sure
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 31 May 2013 05:55 (ten years ago) link
this thread inspired me to listen to helmet at 7 in the morning.
― scott seward, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:09 (ten years ago) link
deathspell omega! fas - ite... being the best album!
― OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Friday, 31 May 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link
also, yay, didn't know shining had a new record out! metal!
I know that Deathspell Omega album really well. I really like it. That's probably in the vein of what I'm looking for, yes. I think it might actually be the album that first got me seriously interested in avant-garde black metal, actually. I don't think I know Portal or Shining at all; will look into those. I remember disliking Altar of Plagues' 2011 album but I'll try the new one. Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 31 May 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
i disliked that too, sund4r, but the new one is on some kinda art-wave-industrial flavor, v. listenable.
the latest portal is good.
― j., Friday, 31 May 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
Wow, you guys are right about Portal's guitars. "Plasm" and "Awryeon" are awesome. I thought I was a black + doom partisan but I'm definitely into this.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:31 (ten years ago) link
OMG "Oblotten"
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link
"Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?"
no, not really. band of susans did. i just always think of helmet when someone mentions branca.
― scott seward, Saturday, 1 June 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link
Not sure if they're really metal, and it's from ages ago, but try Blind Idiot God.
― OORT (Matt #2), Saturday, 1 June 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
Oh, I know and love Blind Idiot God. I'm looking more for contemporary extreme metal.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link
I take it you're probably familiar with Gorguts' Obscura-album? That's my go-to album when I'm in need of some wicked dissonant guitarstuff. But I haven't heard any Branca so I might be off by few miles...
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Saturday, 1 June 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
just listen to darkspace over and over. forever.
― scott seward, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
I can't say I listen to Obscura a lot but it is pretty amazing in its way. I think it was Kris who originally recommended it to me as a metal album that actually gets into genuinely atonal territory at times. What it does is a little different from what the albums in this thread do, though. Branca is never really atonal: more like dense textures of microtonality and/or unrelieved dissonance, often with a repetitive or drone-like basis? However, if there are other things that sound like Obscura, I'd be interested in hearing about them too!
I have mp3s of Darkspace III but haven't listened to it in a while. I should pull both of these out.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
Epheles - Je Suis Autrefois
― Siegbran, Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
oh christ yes, Gorguts - Obscura and Darkspace - III are both wonderful, wonderful albums that I've praised on here before
actually considered recommending Darkspace earlier but they're less Branca, more...being sucked from an airlock. forever!
― the profane theology of (imago), Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Darkspace almost sounds closer to a wash of white noise to me.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
servile sect
― Soft Opening, Saturday, 1 June 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
Yep, Teethed Glory and Injury does seem like what I'm looking for. I'm especially liking "Scald Scar of Water" and "Reflection Pulse Remains".
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link
jazkamer's "metal music machine"
― massaman gai, Sunday, 2 June 2013 06:24 (ten years ago) link
^yesssssssssss
― warm leveret (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 2 June 2013 09:56 (ten years ago) link
Although not metal per se, I remember seeing Caspar Brotzmann Massaker perform at CBGB's after the amazing "Koksofen" album came out and it was everything that I (and the editor at the time of Metal Maniacs who I dragged along to the show) could have hoped for and more.
Here's a choice moment from the disc, a mixture of avant garde stylings, distortion, arcane melodrama and evil throaty German spoken word perfectly suited for fans of the dark arts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4r4l2PKfc
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 2 June 2013 11:23 (ten years ago) link
I saw CBM a couple of years after that, when Home was out. They were opening for Helmet. Amazing stuff; I still listen to them all the time.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
it all leads back to Helmet.
― scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
I'll rep f/ all four Portal recs, but no Aluk Todolo? the krautrock tag usually fits (which tbh isn’t far from Branca), but on a handful on tunes they conjure a wash of guitar murk that should sooth yr drone craving:
Occult Rock I – http://youtu.be/ow1g4xd7gTMObedience – http://youtu.be/EtRFod2cVAEWoodchurch – http://youtu.be/eTLxY0KVzn8Untitled (side B) – http://youtu.be/EaumUJQX-hA
even on their kraut jams, they push a clockwork dissonance that occasionally circles Lesson No. 1 and The Ascension if not the symphonies (though Occult Rock I is yr clear priority here, and I’d take an album or three of that squall).
― Hellhouse, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
Love the last Aluk Todolo album. Will be bookmarking this thread.
― Drugs A. Money, Monday, 3 June 2013 06:26 (ten years ago) link
sooth yr drone craving
^^^
wtf w/ this renfaire crackhouse prattle
anyway, here are a few more recommendations:
Azonic – Shore: http://youtu.be/wzuaHxi91C0(a longer, slightly different version of Andy Hawkins’ River Blindness)Azonic – Beyond the Pale: http://youtu.be/Wue_LUOjiPkOren Ambarchi – Raga Ooty (Slight Return): http://youtu.be/8Gi6btVnv1s
idk, in my house Branca p. much functions as corrosive Teutonic ruction that pours smoothly into Skullflower and F/i through cracking hot speakers, but I’m at peace w/ my disgusting savagery, and you may find yrself delighting in the more subtle aspects of the symphonies (in which case the Oren Ambarchi and Azonic may seem left-field, but w/e).
these next two tracks are even further afield, but the prehistoric lizard currently staffing the drone wing of my brain keeps returning to these metal-ish sheets o’ guitar crush, so:
Bowery Electric – Slow Thrills: http://youtu.be/X09G1bDRocsFlying Saucer Attack – Standing Stone: http://youtu.be/WGfn6fBU-io
(I’m not gonna pretend they’re metal, but at wilting levels they wield a metallic scrape that you may dig.)
― Hellhouse, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
Bosse-de-Nage and Sannhet are kind of heady, dark and dissonant, albeit not as complex as DSO or Krallice.
Bosse-de-Nage - The Arborist http://youtu.be/lxMryekibBA
Sannhet - Absecon Isle http://youtu.be/Ds3og9jk0t8
― anonanon, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
That Bosse-de-Nage track isn't exactly what I was asking for but I really like it all the same! Good rocking feel. More stuff like that would be good too.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link
bosse-de-nage is more like hello late 90s post-hardcore
― j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link
Antediluvian has a pretty good Portalesque thing goinghttp://youtu.be/z8XSESEcX1Q
― klyid, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, the Sannhet track has something of that vibe too (+ Sonic Youth/Live Skull) and I kind of love it. Will definitely look for more.
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― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link
hey snd444r
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbLWHT7vUU
― j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link
This Sannhet track actually is pretty much exactly what I was looking for: http://youtu.be/gsseHCsmg60
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link
omg like 26 minutes in i think they switch from guitar to jet engine for a lil bit
then like billy corgan acoustic vibes on some pisces iscariot shit
― j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I thought of the Pumpkins too, as well as Mogwai. I'm still at 21:30 too.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link
The bit around 23:15 is pretty cool.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link
Wow, I see what you mean about the jet engine.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:03 (ten years ago) link
the new Deafheaven record would be a good bet IMO, and looking at the thread I see j. has already recommended it! Try also Cobalt.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
^i really like this record. apparently i just love black metal that has majestic major key progressions.
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
Castevet is another band somewhat adjacent to Krallice. Mounds of Ash is a great album:
http://youtu.be/-50jZQYSOuM
― anonanon, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
i love the shit out of that castevet record but i think it's a bit over more to the post-hc side of things. maybe because the songs' structures are much more taut and articulated, much stronger drum role - no five-minute hazes of /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
― j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
Pulling out Deathspell Omega's Fas Ite... more over the last week, I'm reminded of why I haven't played it as much over the long term despite its initial impact. While I'm really into most of the individual sections of all the songs, I'm never really sold on how they are combined into compositions. It's hard for me to see a clear relationship between the whole and its parts most of the time, even when it comes to the proportions of the sections. It's the same thing that frustrates me with ELP and "Paranoid Android" and "Carry On Wayward Son". While I haven't really analysed the last Krallice album formally, everything seems to work as a whole more intuitively. Maybe I should think more about why that is some time.
Really love the Deafhaven album though. How are their older albums?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
I gave one listen each to DSO's Paracletum and Drought; maybe those would stick better?
Blut Aus Nord never got mentioned in this thread. I didn't keep up with them after Mort but I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
Huh, so Roads to Judah is even more what I was looking for than Sunbather is.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link
GAME OVER
http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/discontinuities
^^^from this year; wins this thread absolutely and completely and I say that as someone who has heard a fair number of the bands mentioned. And I'm only on the first track!
― ghosts of cuddlestein butthurt circlejerk zinged fuckboy (imago), Friday, 21 June 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
Wow, that first track!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 22 June 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
He's got some discography: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Jute_Gyte/
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 22 June 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link
Wow, I think you may be right about that album.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 22 June 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
Alright, I need to hear this now.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Sunday, 2 February 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link
my god, you do!!
― opden gnash (imago), Sunday, 2 February 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link
one of those albums where a really good first half yields to an overwhelming second
― opden gnash (imago), Sunday, 2 February 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link
Oh man
― are you a fan of i.die music (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 February 2020 00:14 (four years ago) link
― are you a fan of i.die music (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 February 2020 00:15 (four years ago) link
Annoyingly there are two bands called Witch Trail, both put out albums this year. Both are very good.
― Siegbran, Monday, 3 February 2020 08:34 (four years ago) link
Omen xp
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 3 February 2020 08:34 (four years ago) link
The GB record is great btw, I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.
Afloat off the Witch Trail (indie-metal variant) album is quite something
― opden gnash (imago), Monday, 3 February 2020 09:51 (four years ago) link
have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being trans
it's made by the following individual
POV: 1950s housewife shows you her microtonal riffs pic.twitter.com/Yvre4b10K0— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 4, 2020
― ban laggy jazzer (imago), Monday, 6 April 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
I think this kind of fits the bill... Dola from Poland.
http://open.spotify.com/album/5jmtf6yXV6na6xFfzDZsCw?si=dmeLGhtoTqedHPKyTivOKQhttp://dola.bandcamp.com/releases
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
Liked that.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link
Haven't seen this thread in a while---my gateway to Jute Gyte and others, thanks.he GB record is great btw,
I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, February 3, 2020 2:34 AM
You mean The Third Ascension? Made my Uproxx ballot too, so great:https://glennbranca1.bandcamp.com/releases
― dow, Monday, 11 May 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link
Sorry for messing up my paste of your post!
― dow, Monday, 11 May 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link
NP, I indeed meant The Third Ascension, glad you're enjoying it Dow!
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 May 2020 07:07 (three years ago) link
thanks 2 gaudio for posting that Witch Trail, finally got around to listening to it and it's great, love that twang.
― With deep regret I remove my bookmark from this thread (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 2 July 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
my pleasure, GOTT PUNCH!
― knife sharpening tips (gaudio), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being transit's made by the following individual
Album is pretty nice on first listen. May well buy this. Tracks 3 and 4 sound like they're in 12tet, I think?
The 17edo guitar is interesting. Each division (so each fret) would be about 70.59 cents, I think, meaning P5s would be pretty close to what we're used to, only about 6 cents sharp of 12tet P5s and 4 cents sharp from just P5s. But what happens to thirds seems most interesting: you'd get intervals of about 282.35 cents, 352.94 cents, and 423.53 cents, so either a very flat (18 cents) minor third, almost an exact neutral third (halfway between major and minor), or a very sharp major 3 (by 24 cents, and actually more like 38 compared to a just M3). Ofc, some precision is lost when distorting but distorted microtonal tunings still produce different effects than distorted 12tet. Did Ron Sword make the guitar?
I do wonder about these guitars. With 17edo, I could see how you could play on most of the neck with very precise fingering (and she seems to, although I'm sort of interested to hear what it sounds like past the 17th fret without distortion). With the 24tet guitar, I do wonder what technique you could use to play near the octave or higher, to get your fingers just between the frets. Even Sword seems like he's squeezing when he's halfway there on this instrument: https://youtu.be/RWCwMW48FO4?t=90
Also wonder how tricky it is to ensure the intonation of these things. Probably things to ask the Xenharmonic FB group.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 13 July 2020 03:41 (three years ago) link
I think I might have actually asked some of this once and got an answer that I don't remember.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 13 July 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link
is there any reason, in this era of digital audio, why metal guitarists aren't recording 100 guitar tracks on everything
― With deep regret I remove my bookmark from this thread (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 24 August 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link
It's still a lot of work tbf.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Monday, 24 August 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link
album is going well. hope you like bird sounds in your extreme microtonal metal— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) February 26, 2021
― to party with our demons (Sund4r), Friday, 26 February 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link
beaky hails
― imago, Friday, 26 February 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link
New VOtS single: https://votsband.bandcamp.com/track/nowherer-single-2
On the noisy, brutal side. I think I actually like the primitive drumming.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
fun chords!
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 March 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
New Jute Gyte album: https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/helian
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link
Omg he's practically been releasing an album a month. I blinked and missed it.
― Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link
These are mostly rereleases, although that one^ has some self-remix work so I'll def check it out. His next album proper should be along at some point soon.
Meanwhile, this thread's queen to Kalmbach's king appears to be reaching...new heights
preorders are up for my upcoming microtonal metal album, Nowherer!! and here is a playthrough of a segment from the 21 minute closing track, Oscines!! pic.twitter.com/ht3CS1fMYW— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 2, 2021
― imago, Sunday, 4 April 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link
https://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2021/04/22/exclusive-premiere-interview-experience-microtonal-black-metal-bliss-with-victory-over-the-suns-nowherer/
― imago, Thursday, 22 April 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
Oscines is...unreal
― imago, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 April 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link
aoty
― imago, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link
very good
― gman59, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
Good motorik groove with brain-frying dissonance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LFUrAa-mCM
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
rather than bumping the rolling metal to a resounding chorus of silence, let's use this thread for some real-deal shit
first of the day's efforts: KOSTNATENI has fucking DONE IT
https://kostnateni.bandcamp.com/album/pal
more to come, though...
― imago, Friday, 26 May 2023 13:17 (ten months ago) link
yeah obv the new Victory Over The Sun too, not that ILM seems to care at more
― imago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 11:46 (ten months ago) link
My copy of that Kostnateni is supposed to get here later today, heard a lot of god things.
It seems increasingly hard to get the ilx metal crew excited about nearly anything black metal these days. Seems like the (understandable!) desire to avoid the Nazi sympathetic black metal musicians has led more than a few people around here to just swear the genre off completely.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:51 (ten months ago) link
Kostnateni and VOTS are explicitly and obviously decent people, clearly against any of that shit. Basic comprehension is usually enough to confirm when someone's fine. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is unimaginably dumb
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:55 (ten months ago) link
Jute Gyte devotes Bandcamp Friday proceeds to the National Abortion Fund. Ayloss aka Spectral Lore just did a record in support of Mediterranean refugees. Black metal that is explicitly For Good Causes is very easy to find
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:56 (ten months ago) link
Even more morally ambiguous cases like Ruins Of Beverast are no more sus than the average metal musician I'd say
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:00 (ten months ago) link
Oh absolutely, I know, I'm happy to throw money to folks like Jute Gyte and those fighting the good fight. I'm just saying, it seems like black metal is being given a wide berth around here and I know at least one sometimes ilxor has explicitly stated they've walked away from black metal.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:00 (ten months ago) link
Gotta mention these guys too
Here you will tread upon a spark, but there, and there, and behind you and in front of you, and everywhere, flames will blaze up. It is a subterranean fire. You cannot put it out." - August Spies, one of the anarchists executed after the Haymarket Affair. pic.twitter.com/u6WcCNmNuA— Dawn Ray'd (@DawnRayd) May 1, 2023
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:02 (ten months ago) link
Ashenspire too. The list goes on
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:02 (ten months ago) link
But as I say, I don't need my BM to be explicitly hard-leftist to enjoy it. It is possible to dig around about an artist if you're not sure, and it's usually pretty clear if they're Mean and Nasty. And then once you've done due diligence it's your decision whether to try to enjoy the music or not
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:04 (ten months ago) link
ANYWAY. Thantifaxath tomorrow too, if you can believe :D
― imago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:15 (ten months ago) link
Yes! I’ve had it on preorder, and have been listening to the preview tracks. They’re incredible, especially ‘Mind of the Sun’. I can’t wait!
― Kodanshi, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:23 (ten months ago) link
I want a
Search: Metal that Sounds Like Glassworks
thread (y/n)
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 2 June 2023 21:23 (ten months ago) link