The Great ILX Gun Control Debate

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My cousin's wife sent this forward yesterday (names removed):

So today was dress up like a movie character or someone from a story book you like. Typically, he wanted to be a cowboy: he picked Clint Eastwood (the Good, the Bad & the Ugly) but he was not able to use any fake weapons in his holster ... you can't even do a paper rendition (or even draw) of a gun or knife in school these days and no lassos either. While we can all agree weapons don't belong in school, I don't think any of us ever imagined that dressing up like a cowboy for fun would ever be so controversial ..... After some discussion about what to do with his empty holsters, he decided to arm himself with the Constitution -- so that even though he can't go dressed up like the cowboy he wanted, he is still packing! (Thanks to his aunt for the pocket Constitution ... )

Context: the boy's dad -- an obnoxious conservative -- is a hunter and has taught his son to use weapons. I grew up around guns and have endured more than one hunting expedition, but way before the rash of gun catastrophes I was uneasy. Am I wrong in thinking this email is creepy?

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

the last sentence is pretty creepy

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

in general tho I would say cowboy costume does not require a gun so wtf

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

also: the boy's eight years old

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

I still remember vividly the quiet "why don't you take that home" talk I got from my teacher when I brought my Megatron Transformer to school

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

That's a different problem: Megatron was a fucking disaster as a robot when transformed.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

you can't even do a paper rendition (or even draw) of a gun or knife in school these days

When i was in middle school (mid-90's) we had someone get thrown out of school cos he brought a tiny Star Trek phaser and was fake shooting it at a teacher. Though yeah, I know, "these days", Obama's anti-free speech state, yaddah yaddah yaddah

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

"Packing the Constitution stuff" is asinine, obviously. I don't have a problem with kids playing with toy guns, but I'd completely understand a school not wanting anything that looked like a gun inside the building.

Circa 1990, my teacher asked me to bring my air rifle to use as a prop in our class play (Pilgrims or frontiersmen or something) and the school didn't care about me wandering around with it all day.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

After some discussion about what to do with his empty holsters, he decided to arm himself with the Constitution

amazing that the 8-year-old boy decided to bring the constitution into it, all by himself.

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

His friend went as a Native American for a cowboys-and-indians theme. They wouldn't let him bring a bow and arrows so he brought a stack of broken treaties.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 May 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

wittle bitty cowboy could pack a blanket full of smallpox.

wmlynch, Friday, 31 May 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

my sister just sent me a photo of the assault rifle cake her friend had made for friend's son's 15th bday. what in the fucking fuck.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 May 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

friend: "no it's ok, he's 15 now"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 May 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link

almost to mass murderin age

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 31 May 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

And remember, using kids as political props is bad. Until it isn't. Also, too.

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Friday, 31 May 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link

thought you wrote the assault rife shot cake, Granny.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

should've noted that this boy's parents are...a litigator and corporate attorney.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link

that's a terrible gun, kid

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Friday, 31 May 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

it's a terrible gun and I'm walkin with spiders (bc old pop-tarts attract ants, and ants attract spiders)

a very generous Cordoban (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 May 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

when I was in 6th grade (1977) our teacher did an exercise where she had two guys from class go out to "run an errand" and then come back, get into an argument, have one "shoot" the other with a cap gun, and then they both ran out the door. The teacher asked us to write down exactly what happened, what they said, what they were wearing, etc. - it was a lesson in subjectivity of the observer. I've never forgotten it, but more and more I think "wow I am old, that would never ever happen today"

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 31 May 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

Make sure you're following David Waldman's #gunfail series at Daily Kos. He's on Week 21: http://www.dailykos.com/news/GunFail

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

Because the incident was an accident, police said there will be no criminal charges.

This shit drives me nuts. Since when is negligence which leads to injury not chargeable just because "it was an accident?" Auto drivers can't get away with that, why should gun owners?

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link

lol auto drivers get away with that every day

iatee, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link

True. But people at least have the good taste to get pissed about it sometimes.

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/aT9r7w2.jpg

乒乓, Sunday, 9 June 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link

Oh hey just a homemade drone w/a remote control handgun nothing to see here move along

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxThXvuP4Vo

The best part? This effort is all to advertise *smartphone screen protectors.* Just think what a REALLY motivated person could do.

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Friday, 14 June 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link

that is insane yet strangely satisfying. digging the vaporwave soundtrack.

ttyih boi (crüt), Friday, 14 June 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

http://news.yahoo.com/fire-fears-trigger-u-rocky-mountain-ban-exploding-024811964.html

The U.S. Forest Service has blamed the targets for lighting 16 wildfires since 2012, seven of them in the five-state region under the ban. The blazes together cost more than $33 million to put out.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 06:19 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.kmov.com/news/just-posted/Police-Gun-safety-219327371.html

LANCASTER, Ohio (AP) -- Police say an instructor at a central Ohio gun safety class has accidentally shot a student.

badg, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

lol

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

"...(the student) tells the newspaper it appears (the instructor) didn’t know the gun was loaded..."

Auspuff (doo dah), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

I mean, seriously

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

that is comedy direct from god. i have no other way to interpret it.

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/Gun-rights-rally-to-break-long-Alamo-tradition-4907464.php

i sincerely hope all these people just go ahead and shoot each other

sleepingbag, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

eh fuck em all

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

He just didn't love guns enough

reckless woo (Z S), Monday, 11 November 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/ZhJjF31.jpg

, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:15 (ten years ago) link

aw, he shd start a pacifist rival publication to axe cop

in fact, do read if you hate me (imago), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal (R) is expected to sign a bill that even the National Rifle Association is calling the most “comprehensive gun bill” in recent state history. It allows guns in bars, nightclubs, and government buildings without security checkpoints such as libraries. It eliminates criminal charges for those who accidentally bring their guns to the airport or other secured buildings where guns are prohibited. It even expands the state’s Stand Your Ground provision to allow felons to invoke the defense, and allows guns in public schools by authorized teachers and administrators.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/03/25/3418602/georgia-governor-expected-to-sign-the-most-extreme-gun-bill-in-america/#

WTF?

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

It eliminates criminal charges for those who accidentally bring their guns to the airport or other secured buildings where guns are prohibited.

I thought the airport gun laws were a federal issue?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Atlanta-Hartsfield is one of the biggest in the world, that can't be right.

LOL @ 'accidentally' bringing your guns to the airport. Does that work if you are Muslim?

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

Yeah they have to mean eliminating any state charges that exist over/above fed charges, surely.

andrew m., Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link

this happened once when i was in HS, kid had a hunting rifle back there and had forgotten in #countryshit

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Thursday, 27 March 2014 03:24 (ten years ago) link

*it

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Thursday, 27 March 2014 03:25 (ten years ago) link


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