I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)

I love it. Great album. Not sure why everyone slates Dracula's Castle.

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8. Get Ready
Released: 27 August 2001
Acclaimed Music ranking: 45 2001 - 373 2000's decade
257 Points, 15 Votes

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The album sounds merely okay to my ears these days, but I never had a problem with Dracula's Castle.

THEORY:

Since the results have been reverse-chronological so far, Movement is a shoe-in for #1 :)

I guess it's understandable that the albums they released 20-30 years after their first releases are ranked lowest but they're really great albums. Predictably, Republic will be next.

Movement at 3 or 4, imo. Either Low-Life or PCL at 2.

shoo-in, even.

I'd give Republic 60/40 odds over Brotherhood for being next. I always had the impression that the former has some real fans here.

BTW, if anyone has a copy of Get Ready or WFTSC on vinyl that they want to sell or trade, i'm interested.

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7.Substance
Released: 17 August 1987
268 Points, 10 Votes, 4 Number Ones

It's a great compilation but it's not an album. It took me about 2 years of living with this compilation but eventually Disc 2 became my favorite. I've since had to buy a 2nd copy of disc 2. Would love one of the gatefold LPs. I have it on vinyl but not one of the gatefold versions.

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6. Republic
Released: 3 May 1993
Acclaimed Music ranking: 40 1993, 428 90's decade
310 Points, 18 Votes, 1 Number One

I think Republic is the best collection of lyrics Bernard Sumner ever wrote. The mess with Factory provide some great content for him.

of course that is it for the night.

will start again when i wake up (boo).

I think the top five might go,

5. Brotherhood
4. Low-Life
3. Movement
2. Power, Corruption & Lies
1. Technique

I would have liked to see Republic in the top five, it's their most underrated album.

I'd have thought PCL for 'top', the rest, yes.

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aw, nobody else voted for the vid?

Sumner's best lyrics on the first Electronic album.

Can't believe Republic outranked Substance and Get Ready. To this day I still feel ripped off by that album. Technique was like this amazing new vista after they had played out their second great phase, and then they phoned in the next album.
Maybe I should go back and listen to it again, it's been probably 15 years since I got it off the shelf.

well, Substance isn't an album, and Get Ready is post-peak. Republic's position makes sense.

I'm one of the folks who voted for Substance... technically not an album but a singles collection sure, but during the years I had it on constant rotation that distinction meant nothing to me at all. I still remember finally getting a CD player and immediately buying Substance for access to the second disc of b-sides.

yeah I agree re. Substance, it's enough of an album to have gotten my vote, and it's a really important record for me personally in the NO canon.

I wasn't going to vote for it until I saw that other people were

Yeah I voted for Substance - it's easily the record of theirs I've played most.

Lots of people apparently consider it an album.

Psychologically I file it with Louder Than Bombs -- sure it was a singles collection to some people, but it was the only thing available to me so I played it to death while my brain was still forming and therefore it is an album.

this is how I saw it, too.

as a budding new order fan, it was also the only way I could make sense of their early singles catalogue.

Two of my first six CDs were Substance!

Is that because it's a double cd or did you buy it twice?

Two of my first six CDs were Substance but one was by Joy Division

The other was by Bocca Juniors.

Factory Records and Boys Own were my cultural centers. Unfortunately, I was on a one man island, isolated from what was happening and only able to read about it in British publications a month or three after the fact.

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5 Brotherhood
Released: 29 September 1986
Acclaimed Music ranking: 34 1986, 306 80's Decade, 1605 All-Time
469 Points, 24 Votes

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4. Movement
Released: 13 November 1981
544 Points, 24 Votes, 4 Number Ones

thought this would be higher

should be #1

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

getting that 9 corrected

#9?!

the first time i heard movement i was around 12, it was playing in a record store downtown and i asked the clerk if it was joy division and he snickered and said 'uh NO. it's new order.' i'd always filed it as awkward and them finding their sea legs, probably would've slotted behind brotherhood for the longest time but the reissues a couple of years back (and specifically disc two of the movement one being my favorite volume or whatever of new order period) really raised it in my estimation, i think i had it third but just barely.

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3. Low-Life
Released: 13 May 1985
Acclaimed Music ranking: 7 1985, 66 80's Decade, 444 All-time
633 Points, 28 Votes, 1 Number One

I would like Low-Life so much were it not for the album versions of the singles and "Face Up"

i love the face up intro fake out

i don't know what's NOT to love about 'face up' but w/e

woo!

Trying to think of a wider gap in quality between the album and single versions of a song than "Subculture". Coming up short.

album sub-culture towers over the single is what I hope you're saying

the queasy, unsteady vocals enhance the middle stretch of the album (basically "This Time of Night" through "Sooner Than You Think", which I believe is their finest run of songs off of the albums between Movement and Technique) but absolutely destroy the rest of the album, particularly "Face Up" and the album version of "Subculture"

Haha no, I was agreeing with DJP. Maybe if I hadn't heard the single version first, I'd think of the album version as one of those half-assed NO tracks that is charming because of how quickly it was put together. But since I did, it sounds no-assed.

i'd agree that sub-culture is probably sumner's weakest vocal effort of that period, but it still comes off as charming to me. that, with hook's menacing disco bass, win me over. also not a fan of their remix stuff with john robie (too shrill & thin sounding).

(well strictly speaking "Elegia" isn't a song since it has no vocals but still)

also Vinnie is super OTM; I was so so so excited to hear Low-Life based off of the Substance 12" versions of its singles and actually sitting down with it basically felt like the band was laughing at me (awesome middle section aside)